| Same old England 17:11 - Dec 30 with 2713 views | trampie |
Remember at the start of Covid England pinched millions of pounds worth of PPE Wales had ordered, well now there are stories that we have had to give them 4 million lateral flow tests, yet again Wales bailing out England, no wonder they don't want the union state breaking up, we are paying for HS2 railway and none of the track is going to be in Wales, they know when they are on to a good thing that lot.
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| Same old England on 17:15 - Dec 30 with 2071 views | Llandeilo |
I am holidaying at my Sons in Worcester. The local radio said that England would need 150 million tests for January alone.
If that is the case those 4 million will only last a day or so. |  | | |
| Same old England on 17:21 - Dec 30 with 2048 views | blaenaugwentjack |
As the Leader of Wales only political party based in Wales, Westminster is rotten to the core. | | | |
| Same old England on 17:23 - Dec 30 with 2043 views | trampie |
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| Same old England on 17:39 - Dec 30 with 2028 views | Gwyn737 |
Isn’t this a good thing? | | | |
| Same old England on 17:52 - Dec 30 with 2015 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Imagine if Westminster released a statement and had Boris Johnson record a video message each time The Treasury "loaned" Wales English pounds to cover Wales' colossal deficit. |  |
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| Same old England on 17:57 - Dec 30 with 2003 views | onehunglow |
Well,this corner of England has been good to me and I am happy to have been accepted which would not have been the case had I moved to tramps village. | |
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| Same old England on 18:05 - Dec 30 with 1995 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 17:52 - Dec 30 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Imagine if Westminster released a statement and had Boris Johnson record a video message each time The Treasury "loaned" Wales English pounds to cover Wales' colossal deficit. |
The deficit at uk level is truely world class.
Well played Professor Drakers, owning the Johnson English Brexit government. |  |
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| Same old England on 18:26 - Dec 30 with 1976 views | Boundy |
You sad individual truly sad. obviously you're so one eyed you believe all those tests are going to be used exclusively by the Tory party , not just ordinary people ( I didn't include you or the other dullard in that group by the way) You're the prime example of what rancid nationalism means to normal folk . | |
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| Same old England on 18:35 - Dec 30 with 1970 views | builthjack |
| Same old England on 17:21 - Dec 30 by blaenaugwentjack |
As the Leader of Wales only political party based in Wales, Westminster is rotten to the core. |
Are you a party leader? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Same old England on 18:43 - Dec 30 with 1965 views | union_jack |
“Yet again”
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| Same old England on 18:50 - Dec 30 with 1945 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 18:26 - Dec 30 by Boundy |
You sad individual truly sad. obviously you're so one eyed you believe all those tests are going to be used exclusively by the Tory party , not just ordinary people ( I didn't include you or the other dullard in that group by the way) You're the prime example of what rancid nationalism means to normal folk . |
You just made something up - and then shouted at it.
What a plum.
Drakers has done the right thing.
England is not safe in party boy Johnsons Brexit hands. | |
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| Same old England on 18:51 - Dec 30 with 1943 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 17:39 - Dec 30 by Gwyn737 |
Isn’t this a good thing? |
100 per cent.
Comrade Drakers is a grown up. | |
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| Same old England on 20:01 - Dec 30 with 1906 views | Catullus |
Maybe we should criticise Drakeford for making the offer seeing as Wales is short of LFT's too? Drakeford says we have plenty but there's none in Chemists down my way. People in work were saying they couldn't get any either. My local chemist hasn't had any for 2 weeks.
PS, Tramps, we didn't "have to" but our not so esteemed leader offered. | |
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| Same old England on 20:08 - Dec 30 with 1889 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 20:01 - Dec 30 by Catullus |
Maybe we should criticise Drakeford for making the offer seeing as Wales is short of LFT's too? Drakeford says we have plenty but there's none in Chemists down my way. People in work were saying they couldn't get any either. My local chemist hasn't had any for 2 weeks.
PS, Tramps, we didn't "have to" but our not so esteemed leader offered. |
Of course we had too to try and save English people's lives, Wales as a morally upstanding country had too, it's in Wales DNA. | |
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| Same old England on 20:13 - Dec 30 with 1881 views | onehunglow |
Imagine Englandsating you can treat your won people and saty out of England if you hate it that much
Cancer treatments,brain specialist,Kids trauma and specialist treatment and that s just Liverpool,amazingly vilified on Swansea forums and its people described as bin dippers or scum. Its out there .Have a look and weep | |
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| Same old England on 20:17 - Dec 30 with 1877 views | Sirjohnalot |
We’re all part of the same country. It’s like saying Cardiff has stolen things from Swansea. Do you not think wales has also received items paid for by England. The uk has also received items from Europe too.
I’ve lived in England for over 20 years in total, lovely people up In the north west [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:20]
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| Same old England on 20:24 - Dec 30 with 1863 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 20:17 - Dec 30 by Sirjohnalot |
We’re all part of the same country. It’s like saying Cardiff has stolen things from Swansea. Do you not think wales has also received items paid for by England. The uk has also received items from Europe too.
I’ve lived in England for over 20 years in total, lovely people up In the north west [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:20]
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That is just it, a fully functioning 'fair' state should send resources to parts of the state that need it but as has been noted by experts Wales does not get enough money via the system used to distribute funds (the Barnett formula), I'm sure I seen it somewhere the guy/or one of the guys that devised it has said as much. [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:27]
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| Same old England on 20:32 - Dec 30 with 1849 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Same old England on 20:24 - Dec 30 by trampie |
That is just it, a fully functioning 'fair' state should send resources to parts of the state that need it but as has been noted by experts Wales does not get enough money via the system used to distribute funds (the Barnett formula), I'm sure I seen it somewhere the guy/or one of the guys that devised it has said as much. [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:27]
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And Wales voted Brexit.
You may be right re fair distribution but all parts other than the S E of England don’t get a fair deal. One of the reasons Andy Burnham is so popular up here is he’s very vocal about Manchester’s treatment. Wales as a whole, I don’t think, wants independence | | | |
| Same old England on 20:38 - Dec 30 with 1834 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 20:32 - Dec 30 by Sirjohnalot |
And Wales voted Brexit.
You may be right re fair distribution but all parts other than the S E of England don’t get a fair deal. One of the reasons Andy Burnham is so popular up here is he’s very vocal about Manchester’s treatment. Wales as a whole, I don’t think, wants independence |
The Brexit vote and any independence vote would be skewed, something like a quarter of the population of Wales was born in England. | |
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| Same old England on 20:42 - Dec 30 with 1831 views | Catullus |
| Same old England on 20:24 - Dec 30 by trampie |
That is just it, a fully functioning 'fair' state should send resources to parts of the state that need it but as has been noted by experts Wales does not get enough money via the system used to distribute funds (the Barnett formula), I'm sure I seen it somewhere the guy/or one of the guys that devised it has said as much. [Post edited 30 Dec 2021 20:27]
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"The guy" said the formula was only meant to be a stop gap and was no longer fit for purpose.
Name some of these experts?
Many a fully functioning state is not fair, look at Russia. You don't want to be LGBT, a Jehovah's witness or a political opponent to Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia#Political_freedom
The world is not a fair place but lets just blame it all on the English eh. | |
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| Same old England on 20:55 - Dec 30 with 1813 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 20:42 - Dec 30 by Catullus |
"The guy" said the formula was only meant to be a stop gap and was no longer fit for purpose.
Name some of these experts?
Many a fully functioning state is not fair, look at Russia. You don't want to be LGBT, a Jehovah's witness or a political opponent to Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia#Political_freedom
The world is not a fair place but lets just blame it all on the English eh. |
Yes exactly Wales does not get it's fair share of money, if the system was fit for purpose Wales would get more money.
Yes exactly for instance homosexual behaviour was banned in this country in lots of people on this site's lifetime.
Yes the World is not a fair place but we aren't alway the good guys, people that think we are always the good guys and never wrong and that Johnny Foreigner is always wrong are deluded. | |
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| Same old England on 21:06 - Dec 30 with 1801 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Same old England on 20:38 - Dec 30 by trampie |
The Brexit vote and any independence vote would be skewed, something like a quarter of the population of Wales was born in England. |
Does that differentiate between eg those born eg in Chester hospital but who have lived in Wrexham since a baby and someone born in England but moved to Tenby in their 50s ?
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| Same old England on 21:13 - Dec 30 with 1780 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 21:06 - Dec 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Does that differentiate between eg those born eg in Chester hospital but who have lived in Wrexham since a baby and someone born in England but moved to Tenby in their 50s ?
Big difference |
I'm afraid you would have to ask the Oxford university professor that studied it and thought that English people skewed the vote. | |
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| Same old England on 21:14 - Dec 30 with 1780 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 21:06 - Dec 30 by Sirjohnalot |
Does that differentiate between eg those born eg in Chester hospital but who have lived in Wrexham since a baby and someone born in England but moved to Tenby in their 50s ?
Big difference |
I think born in England is pretty clear cut.
Trampie is stating the facts.
On such a small majority, just another 40,000 or so voting Remain in Cymru instead of Leave would have swung it to Remain.
Tory England would still have dragged us out though.
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| Same old England on 21:36 - Dec 30 with 1750 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Same old England on 21:14 - Dec 30 by Kilkennyjack |
I think born in England is pretty clear cut.
Trampie is stating the facts.
On such a small majority, just another 40,000 or so voting Remain in Cymru instead of Leave would have swung it to Remain.
Tory England would still have dragged us out though.
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But someone born in an English hospital but living everyday in wales is as Welsh as me being born in Neath but lived in England since 2000.
It should’ve been a huge remain vote in wales bearing in mind all the grants we got. | | | |
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