Please log in or register. Registered visitors get fewer ads.
Forum index | Previous Thread | Next thread
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown 13:30 - Sep 25 with 9926 viewsAndy1300

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54285704

All a bit unnecessary to be honest.

Cases mean nothing without deaths, and they are possibly a lot of false positives.

Number 1 team in Wales

-1
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 18:58 - Sep 27 with 1317 viewsTreforys_Jack

People behaviour is grim, pub in Killay had a few individuals not complying with requests to social distance, so they were asked to leave. What do they do on the way out, spit on the tables ffs.
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:03 - Sep 27 with 1312 viewsSlugster664

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:03 - Sep 25 by Highjack

I’m leaning towards this more and more. I was fully behind lockdown in March mainly because the thought of a deadly virus ravaging through my lovely 98 year old grans care home was just vile to me and we all want to protect those we love. But now it’s nearly October, I haven’t been able to see her in over six months. She’s now allowed one family visitor once a week for half an hour (cancelled if it’s raining) which is obviously my mum. The rest of the time she’s probably lying in bed wondering why the f*ck everybody has abandoned her. The carers all come in kitted out in masks and goggles and gloves, she’s probably not seen a friendly face or a smile. She has dementia so they won’t be able to explain what’s happening. She must be bloody terrified. The harm we are doing seems to be massively outweigh the risks. If she had the choice she would take the risk of the virus if it meant having her family around rather than just lying alone for months.


Why does a visit get cancelled if it's raining mate?

STID

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:13 - Sep 27 with 1303 viewsSlugster664

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:08 - Sep 25 by Kilkennyjack

UK govt capped testing numbers in a pandemic simply because the labs could not cope.

Welsh govt provided addition tests to save the day.




You are utterly clueless! I have been attempting to get a test for the last 8-9 weeks and I still haven't had one...although, I could have if I was prepared to travel to the Midlands or Dorset! I'm buggered now, can't even travel there...take your head out of Drippy's arse mate, you're embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous comments.

STID

2
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:40 - Sep 27 with 1291 viewsHighjack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:03 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

Why does a visit get cancelled if it's raining mate?


The visits have to take place outside in the gardens, if the weather’s bad they cancel it.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Poll: Should Dippy Drakeford do us all a massive favour and just bog off?

1
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:41 - Sep 27 with 1290 viewsCatullus

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:13 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

You are utterly clueless! I have been attempting to get a test for the last 8-9 weeks and I still haven't had one...although, I could have if I was prepared to travel to the Midlands or Dorset! I'm buggered now, can't even travel there...take your head out of Drippy's arse mate, you're embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous comments.


Trying for 8/9 weeks? Why? Surely you have been through the incubation period if you were showing symptoms? Did you self isolate?

This is the massive problem, people just aren't 100% sure what is going on and those who need tests can't get them. On the news recently there were people at thetesting station in Merthyr who had come from England, some quite a long way. How is that doing any good? If they are infectious they cou;ld be spreading the virus even if they are careful.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
Poll: Offended by what Brynmill J and Controversial J post on the Ukraine thread?
Blog: In, Out, in, out........

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:04 - Sep 27 with 1269 viewsBillyChong

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:13 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

You are utterly clueless! I have been attempting to get a test for the last 8-9 weeks and I still haven't had one...although, I could have if I was prepared to travel to the Midlands or Dorset! I'm buggered now, can't even travel there...take your head out of Drippy's arse mate, you're embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous comments.


Why would you be trying for 8/9 weeks to get a test?! Talking bollocks there, or just plan on wasting essential time/resources. Know plenty of people who’ve got tests within 72 hours at the very longest.
1
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:45 - Sep 27 with 1251 viewsDJack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 18:58 - Sep 27 by Treforys_Jack

People behaviour is grim, pub in Killay had a few individuals not complying with requests to social distance, so they were asked to leave. What do they do on the way out, spit on the tables ffs.


WTF!

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:48 - Sep 27 with 1244 viewsDJack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:13 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

You are utterly clueless! I have been attempting to get a test for the last 8-9 weeks and I still haven't had one...although, I could have if I was prepared to travel to the Midlands or Dorset! I'm buggered now, can't even travel there...take your head out of Drippy's arse mate, you're embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous comments.


Bullshit!

A member of my staff could only drag out a postal test for one whole week.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

0
Login to get fewer ads

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:49 - Sep 27 with 1243 viewsNeath_Jack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:45 - Sep 27 by DJack

WTF!


The Commercial Inn, Killay:

To the customers who on Friday night, thought that after being told several times to wear a mask whilst moving around the pub, decided to repeatedly break the law the minute the staffs backs were turned, and then one particular customer decided it was acceptable upon leaving to spit repeatedly on a table that our team then had to clean up. YOU ARE ALL BANNED. We know who you are, so please don’t embarrass yourself by trying to gain entry. We are working extremely hard to keep everyone safe, and this behaviour is appalling, disgusting, and completely unacceptable

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
Poll: Would you support military action against Syria on what we know so far?

1
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:50 - Sep 27 with 1242 viewsAndy1300

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:41 - Sep 27 by Catullus

Trying for 8/9 weeks? Why? Surely you have been through the incubation period if you were showing symptoms? Did you self isolate?

This is the massive problem, people just aren't 100% sure what is going on and those who need tests can't get them. On the news recently there were people at thetesting station in Merthyr who had come from England, some quite a long way. How is that doing any good? If they are infectious they cou;ld be spreading the virus even if they are careful.


How can they spread the virus in a car.

If they are going to a drive through site, they have to keep their windows closed, open them slightly to get handed a test, then do the test themselves, they then put their hazards on to alert a person to collect the test which is in a sealed bag. If their windows are opened at any point other than directed, they are waved through the site and sent on their way.

Number 1 team in Wales

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:54 - Sep 27 with 1235 viewsexhmrc1

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 18:24 - Sep 27 by Neath_Jack

Neath Port Talbot with 8 infections today, so they impose these extra restrictions.

They're heads have truly gone now


Their heads havent gone. Firstly the amounts that are reported are not the date they were tested. Secondly Sunday is usually lower as it includes figures from 1pm on Friday and 1pm on Saturday and you will find not all the cases are shown. Generally the figures tend to be higher on Tuesday and Wednesday when the figures have caught up. The attached statement from Neath AS Jeremy Miles explains the reasons in more details.

As you know the announcement of new Covid restrictions has been made this afternoon, which will cover Neath Port Talbot, Vale of Glamorgan and Torfaen county areas. They will take effect at 6pm on Monday 28th.
The possibility was floated 48 hours ago that this might be announced today, and we now have 24 hours notice that the restrictions wil be brought in (as with Llanelli, Bridgend, Caerphilly, RCT, Newport, Blaenau Gwent and Merthyr Tydfil).
The decision was taken by the Welsh Government today, following meetings with public health officials, local government leaders and police and having received advice from the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Officer based on the latest available data.
Data is published on the Public Health Wales website https://public.tableau.com/.../public.health.wales.health... and updated daily. As with all data collection and publication there is a slight lag from the test results they relate to, as the information is reported, collated and analysed.
The relevant data for the decision includes, for example, transmission rates (generally compared on a per 100,000 basis over a rolling 7 day period), absolute numbers, the percentage of positive cases and population size, distribution and geographic factors.
For NPT, whilst the rate per 100k today is a little lower than some of the county boroughs that have gone sooner, it is certainly rising, it is clear that it is going to hit the relevant threshold and, as the spread of the virus across south Wales has clearly become exponential the case has become stronger as time goes on for a more precautionary approach.
This is coupled with the fact that NPT is neighboured by two county boroughs where there are high numbers of transmission and this also supports a more precautionary approach at this stage in the transmission.
In these circumstances, delayed restrictions are effectively prolonged restrictions, and we all will want the period of restrictions to be brought to an end as early as possible.
Given the trend in the transmission in our area, this approach gives the best chance of reducing the overall period of restrictions- just as counties have gone into lockdown separately, they will be assessed to come out of lockdown separately
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:01 - Sep 27 with 1220 viewsAndy1300

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 18:24 - Sep 27 by Neath_Jack

Neath Port Talbot with 8 infections today, so they impose these extra restrictions.

They're heads have truly gone now


It’s pathetic now, just lockdown the whole of Wales Or lift the restrictions completely

Number 1 team in Wales

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:09 - Sep 27 with 1212 viewsexhmrc1

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:01 - Sep 27 by Andy1300

It’s pathetic now, just lockdown the whole of Wales Or lift the restrictions completely


Some of the areas in North and West Wales have rates that are a fraction of those in South Wales. They dont need to be in lockdown yet.
Over the last 7 days Ceredigion has a rate of 6.9 cases per 100,000 residents and 0.8% of tests have returned positive. Neath Port Talbot has 37 cases per 100,000 residents and 2.9 % were positive.
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:51 - Sep 27 with 1167 viewsJack_Meoff

Couple of interesting articles with regard the PCR tests, which, as far as I am aware is how the current level of cases is being measured and gauged, and why we, in Swansea, are currently 'locked down.'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives

'...let’s imagine the real infection level is higher: that 1 in 1,000 of us have the virus. Or 0.1 per cent.

And let’s imagine again that, in this scenario, 10,000 random people go for a Covid-19 test. With the infection level at 0.1 per cent, just ten people will have Sars-CoV-2 and 9,990 will not. Of the ten who turn up with an infection, 80 per cent will test positive, meaning eight people will be correctly identified while two walk away with a false negative.

And of the 9,990 not infected, all but ten will be correctly diagnosed as negative: hence the success rate of 99.9 per cent (the specificity). But ten will be told they have Covid-19, when in fact they don’t. That leaves us with 18 positive tests: eight from people who genuinely had the virus and ten who did not. So only eight out of 18 (44 per cent) of the infections are real. That’s where the chance of accurately detecting the disease being less than 50 per cent comes from.'

Latter article was from Professor Carl Heneghan, director of Oxford’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.

1
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:07 - Sep 27 with 1153 viewsAndy1300

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:51 - Sep 27 by Jack_Meoff

Couple of interesting articles with regard the PCR tests, which, as far as I am aware is how the current level of cases is being measured and gauged, and why we, in Swansea, are currently 'locked down.'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives

'...let’s imagine the real infection level is higher: that 1 in 1,000 of us have the virus. Or 0.1 per cent.

And let’s imagine again that, in this scenario, 10,000 random people go for a Covid-19 test. With the infection level at 0.1 per cent, just ten people will have Sars-CoV-2 and 9,990 will not. Of the ten who turn up with an infection, 80 per cent will test positive, meaning eight people will be correctly identified while two walk away with a false negative.

And of the 9,990 not infected, all but ten will be correctly diagnosed as negative: hence the success rate of 99.9 per cent (the specificity). But ten will be told they have Covid-19, when in fact they don’t. That leaves us with 18 positive tests: eight from people who genuinely had the virus and ten who did not. So only eight out of 18 (44 per cent) of the infections are real. That’s where the chance of accurately detecting the disease being less than 50 per cent comes from.'

Latter article was from Professor Carl Heneghan, director of Oxford’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine.


And this farce is what they are basing their decisions on!

Number 1 team in Wales

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:17 - Sep 27 with 1143 viewsSlugster664

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 20:48 - Sep 27 by DJack

Bullshit!

A member of my staff could only drag out a postal test for one whole week.


Oh ok, it's bullshit...I've not been trying for 8 weeks and I've not been offered a test in Dorset or the Midlands, nob!

But anyway, I've not been able to get a test.

STID

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:22 - Sep 27 with 1138 viewsSlugster664

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 19:41 - Sep 27 by Catullus

Trying for 8/9 weeks? Why? Surely you have been through the incubation period if you were showing symptoms? Did you self isolate?

This is the massive problem, people just aren't 100% sure what is going on and those who need tests can't get them. On the news recently there were people at thetesting station in Merthyr who had come from England, some quite a long way. How is that doing any good? If they are infectious they cou;ld be spreading the virus even if they are careful.


My daughter went into hospital in March with Covid and after approx 12 weeks I thought I'd get tested before going back to work(wanted to start mid August) thought I'd get tested, no joy unfortunately.

STID

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 23:33 - Sep 27 with 1114 viewsDJack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:17 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

Oh ok, it's bullshit...I've not been trying for 8 weeks and I've not been offered a test in Dorset or the Midlands, nob!

But anyway, I've not been able to get a test.


Many of my staff have been tested themselves or have had a family member tested ...the longest wait was a week for someone who is a bit of an issue.

I may be a knob but at least I'm not a complete asshat.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 09:28 - Sep 28 with 1017 viewsScotia

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 21:51 - Sep 27 by Jack_Meoff

Couple of interesting articles with regard the PCR tests, which, as far as I am aware is how the current level of cases is being measured and gauged, and why we, in Swansea, are currently 'locked down.'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives

'...let’s imagine the real infection level is higher: that 1 in 1,000 of us have the virus. Or 0.1 per cent.

And let’s imagine again that, in this scenario, 10,000 random people go for a Covid-19 test. With the infection level at 0.1 per cent, just ten people will have Sars-CoV-2 and 9,990 will not. Of the ten who turn up with an infection, 80 per cent will test positive, meaning eight people will be correctly identified while two walk away with a false negative.

And of the 9,990 not infected, all but ten will be correctly diagnosed as negative: hence the success rate of 99.9 per cent (the specificity). But ten will be told they have Covid-19, when in fact they don’t. That leaves us with 18 positive tests: eight from people who genuinely had the virus and ten who did not. So only eight out of 18 (44 per cent) of the infections are real. That’s where the chance of accurately detecting the disease being less than 50 per cent comes from.'

Latter article was from Professor Carl Heneghan, director of Oxford’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine.


Where were these false positives in July then?
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 09:31 - Sep 28 with 1013 viewsNeath_Jack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 22:22 - Sep 27 by Slugster664

My daughter went into hospital in March with Covid and after approx 12 weeks I thought I'd get tested before going back to work(wanted to start mid August) thought I'd get tested, no joy unfortunately.


Which way are you trying to get a test?

We've had 16 people be tested in our company in the last 11 days alone. From all parts of South Wales. The only one who had a bit of trouble was someone in Ammanford who ended up going to Bristol to get one, that took 24 hours to arrange.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
Poll: Would you support military action against Syria on what we know so far?

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 10:00 - Sep 28 with 1003 viewsonehunglow

Looking at what Neath Jack has posted then it really doesnt matter Boris and his crew do such it the utmost kunishness of some and it only takes 1 to spread this significantly.

Folks.We all have to challenge this creatures. I have no problem with doing so even though Im 70 but this is killing people and Id rather die than see evil like this prevail.

Poll: Christmas. Enjoyable or not

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 13:56 - Sep 28 with 961 views1964white

Unfortunately we've had to cancel a weekend in Abergavenny to visit one of our best friends we haven't seen for a year
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 15:49 - Sep 28 with 938 viewsNeath_Jack

A massive 9 infections for Gods little acre today.

Well worth the extra restrictions being put into place.

I think they just wanted to make the map look a bit tidier by being able to colour our bit in as well.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
Poll: Would you support military action against Syria on what we know so far?

0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 16:12 - Sep 28 with 927 viewsexhmrc1

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 15:49 - Sep 28 by Neath_Jack

A massive 9 infections for Gods little acre today.

Well worth the extra restrictions being put into place.

I think they just wanted to make the map look a bit tidier by being able to colour our bit in as well.


Taken from Wales Online today Neath Port Talbot and Swansea increased the 7 day figures again today.

Swansea Bay University Health Board

Swansea: 97.6 (Up)

Neath Port Talbot: 41.2 (Up)

Before you try to twist it here is the full article.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-cases-wales-sep
[Post edited 28 Sep 2020 16:14]
0
Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 16:36 - Sep 28 with 903 viewsNeath_Jack

Here we go, Swansea in lockdown on 16:12 - Sep 28 by exhmrc1

Taken from Wales Online today Neath Port Talbot and Swansea increased the 7 day figures again today.

Swansea Bay University Health Board

Swansea: 97.6 (Up)

Neath Port Talbot: 41.2 (Up)

Before you try to twist it here is the full article.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-cases-wales-sep
[Post edited 28 Sep 2020 16:14]


I'm not, and never have twisted anything in regards to Covid butt.

The numbers i posted yesterday and today are correct.

No doubt we will see numbers rise drastically soon enough, but at the moment, there was no need for the extra restrictions, in my opinion.

Please don't reply with paragraph after paragraph and about the English and closing down the borders etc, it's just as boring as Dimi and his BLM nonsense.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
Poll: Would you support military action against Syria on what we know so far?

0
About Us Contact Us Terms & Conditions Privacy Cookies Advertising
© FansNetwork 2024