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I really, really hope Holloway has a good rational think about the last few weeks and decides to walk away. Otherwise it's going to end very badly for the club and him, probably in November as per, with us already in deep trouble and him being crucified by the fans.
Why put either party through it?
That said, some of the names being talked about on here are corkers.
Zola?? The same man who almost just relegated a team of play-off contenders? Mark Warburton, manager of a team so epically sht they even lost to us???
I keep reading about the terrible effects of spice on its users, but I hadn't realised it had got as far as LFW.
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Holloway stay or go on 01:21 - May 8 with 1869 views
Obvious most games this season we were second best except for one brief period when we got to 50 points. IH seemed to think that was enough but he was wrong. If we had not beaten Forest we would have been relegated and all our rivals would have no sympathy. IH as much as he says he is passionate for our club has shown himself to be clueless ,both in tactics and other general comments. Making Brentford a role model is laughable. He should aspire to turning us into a solid Premiership side! If the owners of our club have got any football sense(which many people doubt) we urgently need a change of management plus some players who are good enough to get us competing for promotion next season.
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Holloway stay or go on 01:28 - May 8 with 1861 views
Obvious most games this season we were second best except for one brief period when we got to 50 points. IH seemed to think that was enough but he was wrong. If we had not beaten Forest we would have been relegated and all our rivals would have no sympathy. IH as much as he says he is passionate for our club has shown himself to be clueless ,both in tactics and other general comments. Making Brentford a role model is laughable. He should aspire to turning us into a solid Premiership side! If the owners of our club have got any football sense(which many people doubt) we urgently need a change of management plus some players who are good enough to get us competing for promotion next season.
A new manager and buying a few more players has never failed to fix our woes before.
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Holloway stay or go on 04:21 - May 8 with 1823 views
I have read all the posts, and not one has identified where the problem is; the Numpties in the QPR boardroom!
Since Tony Pony rolled in, we've continually made appalling decisions when it comes to managers and Les Ferdinand hasn't changed that one bit. I continually read about how Les knows where the problems are and what needs to be done; as if somehow, Les has cracked the Da Vinici code while doing a Rubik's cube in one hand, and writing out the formula to beat Dementia with the other.
He has said nothing, that I have not heard being raised by large swathes of the Rfosi, since 2011. Nothing! He has however, joined the momentum of recent years, to make shockingly poor managerial decisions. He hasn't got one right yet and as I understand it, this is a key element of his Job Spec. And in twice handing the job to Ramsey, Les should be nowhere near the decision making process.
I genuinely don't know one Rangers fan who thought Ollie was an ideal replacement for the living bore that was JFH. I love Ollie, but his was a bizarre choice by desperate men who, with the possible exception of Hoos, have made a bad situation even more desperate. Ollie's return was solely a case of the heart ruling the head and hoping against hope, that he could conjure up that period we enjoyed in the most extreme of periods when he last managed us.
The fact we got behind it and him is not for the dissimilar reason why many people go and see 80s bands in 2017; pure nostalgia winning out over wondering if we should let the past go and not based on modern realities shall we say. Its been destined for disaster from day one, and I am surprised Ollie took the job. Of course I'd love to see it work out and a part of me, the nostalgic part, hopes it still does but the worry is clearly there: he's chopped, changed and generally buggered around with things just when he seemed to get it right and, for no unfathomable reason(s)!
I have absolutely no confidence that the idiots who have made consecutive errors when it comes to choosing our manager, will suddenly get it right at the ninth time of asking in six years.
Unless Ollie walks, then arguably if we do decide to hoof him, then yes, it has to be now. Personally, I'd be sitting him down and analysing his time here and expressing grave concerns about the obvious lack of consistency shall we say, and bottoming out the plan for next season.
However, if he remains then we need a belting pre-season and we have to start well. Start off poorly with the same tinkering nonsense, then he's off for me! But who the hell will we get and can we have any confidence in the numpties getting it right? Can we afford to sack Ollie and his team (did I read the numpties put them on three year contracts?) and how much will it cost to convince someone mad enough to accept the poisoned chalice that we regularly look to fill?
What a complete clusterfuk. Again!
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I must admit..clutching at straws to say the least - but he has Championship experience and took Watford to Wembley? Brum are a club with deep-rooted problems so maybe unfair to pin it all on him??
Problem is it makes sense to move on from Olie now (agree..NOT in Oct/Nov) but who else is there right now ? Pardew a good shout.
I thought you where joking when you suggested Zola, come on, stop this, must be a big name crap! He is shit!!
We need someone with coaching skills, not a manager, if Leicester don't keep Shakespeare we should go for him. Monk is also a good shout.
Shock us with an unknown appointment, like Huddersfield, Hull, or Southampton.
Ollie is talking about a complete shake up of the squad, if that's the case, the DOF has to go, one of them has to go!
I believe the squad was good enough for a top 12 finish, screw stability, Chelsea, Man City, Man U(last few years all won things while chopping and changing managers.
Watford, Southampton, WBA, C Palace, Hull, Swansea, and Norwich have all had success chopping and changing management.
Stability is the DOF, and if the squad has to be constantly changed then HE has to go. I personally think the DOF team is doing a good job with a limited budget so, goodbye Ollie!
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Holloway stay or go on 07:45 - May 8 with 1708 views
It's simple - any other manager with his record since he returned would have been shown the door. If a team like Preston can have a "go at it" why cant we?
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Holloway stay or go on 08:02 - May 8 with 1679 views
I'm sick of changing managers, but this time we have to...
I voted stay because it appears to me he's already planning for next season with mentions of TWO transfer windows still needed to get it right!!! Also I have zero faith Bungle and the goons will suddenly get the right / a better man in. The pool we'd have to choose from is limited due to the DoF structure
I've said elsewhere though; if Monk becomes available GET HIM. We would need to do this rapid though and also give him patience and funds
Another right old Bungle mess.....just where is the root of our problems?!?!?!
Fingers crossed Ollie comes good
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Holloway stay or go on 09:40 - May 8 with 1578 views
Surly on a Monday morning there must be some kind of meeting with Ollie, Birch, Sir Les and other senior management to discuss the game, result, performances etc. Now pray tell me how, at the end of the meeting (if in fact they exist) people can walk away happy with what they have been watching during the past 12 weeks?
It absolutely beggars belief - our run of results have been awful, our formation and game plans have been non existent and team selection totally random. Lets not fool ourselves we were very, very lucky to get away with staying up all due to some unbelievable management decisions.
I do not put all the blame on the owners - they have employed experienced staff to run our club and to balance things out the club (off the pitch) appears to be in better shape but our performances on the pitch have been awful. Our DOF has failed under three managers all appointed by him - is that acceptable? We have signed players who frankly are not good enough and I do not see anything changing anytime soon.
Like many others on this site I have no problem personally with Ollie or Birch but sorry it has been proved since his return that frankly they are way off the mark. I also agree that Warnock did a great job for us during his time at the club - would I want him back? No.
We need to move on and changes need to be made - Les really has to take a long, long look at things and make a decision re our manager and I just cannot see how he can defend or justify to the board what has happened over the past 12 weeks. Sorry Ollie - with regret - your fired!!!
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Holloway stay or go on 09:51 - May 8 with 1568 views
The results have been rank under IH, under JFH and under Ramsey. But are these managers actually buying the players?
We started off with a succession of signings from League One, then moved onto Championship strugglers. Where do we find ourselves? Just about staying out of League One, a struggling Championship side.
It doesn't matter how the manager perms this squad, too many are simply not good enough. We either buy players who have got out this Division before or this mess just carries on.
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Holloway stay or go on 09:52 - May 8 with 1565 views
If we're living within the budget as FFP dictates then we are about in the natural place for the size of club and ground that we have. This was all set out in the Hoos explanation of why we need the new stadium that will be delivered any day now...
All dreams are forbidden.
Brighton used the £250m from the owner and built a stadium and went from there. We bought Bosingwa.
It's all Olly's fault.
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Holloway stay or go on 10:00 - May 8 with 1549 views
The usual caveats of liking Ollie, wanting him to succeed, us needing stability etc etc...
We were an unconvincing win against a complete dog toffee Forest team from getting relegated and ultimately that would have been Ian Holloways fault.
We either give him the benefit of the doubt like we did the last time he had a fck me awful run and lost to Vauxhall Motors etc and hope with more time to establish his identity we can get things right, or we decide that he's simply not good enough and should be removed before he implements the masses of changes he no doubt has planned. I'm slightly more in the latter camp tbh
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Holloway stay or go on 10:04 - May 8 with 1537 views
I voted stay because it appears to me he's already planning for next season with mentions of TWO transfer windows still needed to get it right!!! Also I have zero faith Bungle and the goons will suddenly get the right / a better man in. The pool we'd have to choose from is limited due to the DoF structure
I've said elsewhere though; if Monk becomes available GET HIM. We would need to do this rapid though and also give him patience and funds
Another right old Bungle mess.....just where is the root of our problems?!?!?!
Fingers crossed Ollie comes good
Lblock your not allowed to have a pop at our wonderful owners , they are still learning don't you know, its not down to them that they have wasted 200 million and taken the club backwards towards league one , you do know if they do leave us then we will end up with even worse owners than we have, it will be the end of the club its all true its been said on here Thank god for Tony is what I say , can we please have another 6 years of this wonderful winning productive regime
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
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Holloway stay or go on 10:09 - May 8 with 1526 views
Over 120 people have clicked and 60% say go now. Is that because we're worried about the doing the November replacement thing again or do we want someone new in now and then replace him in November?
Feck it. I'll chuck a go now vote in. Undermining the club gives us something to do over the summer.
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Holloway stay or go on 10:16 - May 8 with 1516 views
Of course the whole Fernandes era has been a clown car parade of cock ups. Given the unresolved legal situation with FFP, it's left us financially hamstrung —Â or as has been said a couple of posts ago, stuck in the lower reaches of the Championship pretty much exactly where you would expect a club with a 14k average attendance to be.
Right now there's not much anyone can do about that. It is, as a not especially good football manager whose name I forget used to say, what it is.
BUT there's a difference between bobbing along in the mid to lower reaches of the Championship and disappearing into League One, which is where Holloway will take us. It's not a question of not liking the man, or not seeing that there have been some great, unexpected bonuses from his appointment (the emergence of Manning, the recruitment of Freeman). But it's not enough. He will capsize us next season. He'll be finished, we'll be finished.
We need to end this, preferably today.
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Holloway stay or go on 10:23 - May 8 with 1497 views
Seeing names like Zola and Pardew linked is scary. It's not working with Holloway at the moment, JFH and Ramsey were both sacked for a lot less and Redknapp was vilified for putting together a team light years ahed of this one but I really don't know what the answer is.
I think we'd be better off if Ferdinand had got his way the last two times and got Gary Rowett before the clowns above him decided to go elsewhere both times. I would fully expect them to make the final call this time as well and get it wrong.
I think Holloway has done some very good things since coming back but it looks a mess at the moment and I'm not sure where we go from here.
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Holloway stay or go on 10:51 - May 8 with 1417 views
The obvious questions are: do we think IH has done a good job so far? do we think IH will still be manager come Christmas? do we trust IH to, as he has repeatedly said recently, tear down this team in the summer and bring in half a dozen players?
For me, and it seems an awful lot of other fans, the answer to all three is a blinding no.
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Holloway stay or go on 11:04 - May 8 with 1391 views
Holloway stay or go on 15:20 - May 7 by ichbinnaughty
As much as the bloke is a grade A bell end, i would be more comfortable with Pardew in charge. Give him a pre season to sort out who he wants, get them drilled, and choose a handful of additions where he wants them - and I think we'd be half decent. I repeat though, he is a huge helmet. And I know many will shout me down for this.
Would only shout you down because Pardew is an established Premier League manager - there is no way on god's green earth he'd come here
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Holloway stay or go on 11:30 - May 8 with 1366 views
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