| Blair on Brexit.Incredible 09:50 - Feb 17 with 11590 views | perchrockjack |
"Remainers should rise up"
Chwarae teg ,mun
This mean another civil war then |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 13:15 - Feb 17 with 2271 views | blueytheblue |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 12:35 - Feb 17 by sherpajacob |
Read it again and look at the dates.
Both MAy and IDS were calling for military action, before the publication of any dossiers, before Blair had called for military action.
IDS specifically calls for pre-emptive action., based on his "belief" that Iraq's next generation of missiles present a,threat ( not that they currently have WMD)
if IDS had been PM we would have gone to war in Iraq in 2002.
He was wrong in 2002 as was May as subsequently was Blair in 2003. |
Based upon the intelligence presented, which we know now was deeply flawed. As I said. IDS comments weren't based upon the dossier so not sure why you're acting as if I've made that claim?
Any opposition - Tories, Labour, Monster Raving Loony party - can only go on the intelligence provided. Opposition don't have their own intelligence service, after all.
If it was only based upon all that, they'd have all been wrong, sure.
Dossiers were sexed up, parliament was misled. That's entirely on Blair. There's a massive difference between action upon flawed intelligence and deliberately misleading. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 13:46 - Feb 17 with 2228 views | builthjack |
Thatcher, Blair, Cameron, May. All pathetic w@nkers.
Should all be shot, except Maggie, who's down there. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 15:02 - Feb 17 with 2164 views | Flashberryjack |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 13:46 - Feb 17 by builthjack |
Thatcher, Blair, Cameron, May. All pathetic w@nkers.
Should all be shot, except Maggie, who's down there. |
I quite like May. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 15:09 - Feb 17 with 2141 views | Highjack |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 15:02 - Feb 17 by Flashberryjack |
I quite like May. |
Me too. Few warm days and it feels like summers on the way. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 16:01 - Feb 17 with 2088 views | Lord_Bony |
SO the Chilcott inquiry which cost us over £12 million was all for nothing so it seems..
Carry on regardless. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 16:18 - Feb 17 with 2071 views | SnakePlissken |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 10:05 - Feb 17 by waynekerr55 |
Guaranteed when he passes the whole dirt will come out, much like Maggie and Orgreave/Saville/Hillsborough |
True mate, these scumbags are protected to the hilt when alive, everything is hushed up and brushed under the carpet.....they have a lot of friends in high places who all know each others secrets, and when it does eventually come out, its way to late for anything to be done about it most of the time. Blair is no different. Vile human being. They hung Saddam for what he done. Blair IMO is responsible for atrocities far worse than sadam | | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 17:20 - Feb 17 with 2006 views | Darran |
Well that big champion of the left Gary Lineker thinks he's great anyway,though the even bigger champion of the left George Galloway disagrees.
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 17:21 - Feb 17 with 2006 views | Flashberryjack |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 15:09 - Feb 17 by Highjack |
Me too. Few warm days and it feels like summers on the way. |
Yes indeed, and the month I was born. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 17:37 - Feb 17 with 1988 views | Dracan66 |
Gary linekar needs to stick to talking shite on motd.
Tony Blair lied to the British people over the Iraq WMD issue and tried years later to get forgiveness from us by blubbering through a press announcement saying that he misinterpreted intelligence information !!!!
The guy should be tried along with George w bush and impisioned for the unlawful killing of British soldiers.
Crawl back under your rock Tony Blair, the British people have voted democratically and the decision made...... I wonder how much he was paid to make that speech...300k or possibly 1million. Scum!!!! |  | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 18:07 - Feb 17 with 1941 views | AnotherJohn |
Davos Man masquerading as David vs Goliath. | | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 18:20 - Feb 17 with 1921 views | Private_Partz |
Back on topic I agree with everything he is saying. It is such a shame that he is saying it though. I hope now some more political heavyweights will join him.
I think it is massively optimistic to get the public to change their minds as the timescale will not allow it. From what I can see is that once the button to leave has been pressed next month the process is irreversible.
At least some good may come out of it as we will have and alternative argument being put forward. I hope this will be in tandem with Labour's intention to scrutinise the process to ensure the best deal for Britain. I must say I have been disappointed with their Tory lite stance so far. Maybe this will help.
Currently May looks like she has waved the while flag. Is willing to accept she will get nothing and turn the UK into a tax haven.
The rich getting richer and the poor poorer will suit the Torys. Make no mistake this is a perfect scenario for them. No more deficit reduction targets. It is going up as a result of Brexit so austerity with knobs on will continue. Once it all goes tits up those in Parliament who voted to accept the referendum will blame the Brexiters who voted for it. Saying they were only carrying out the democratic will even though they disagreed. The only culpable ones will be the Tories who wanted out in the first place and UKIP. It is win win for all the other Politicians who voted to accept the outcome. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 18:58 - Feb 17 with 1886 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 10:10 - Feb 17 by pikeypaul |
So he wants another vote because people did not know what they voted for?
I expect a lot of people who voted for him did not know they were voting for someone
who was prepared to take us in to an illegal war and sewing the seeds for millions of
deaths. [Post edited 17 Feb 2017 10:12]
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Indeed. What a stitch up. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:09 - Feb 17 with 1863 views | exiledclaseboy |
As a couple of others have said, I agree with pretty much everything Blair said today. Quite why they thought that the almost universally despised Tony Blair was the best person to deliver this important message is beyond me though. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:09 - Feb 17 with 1863 views | Highjack |
Ironic really that Blair was probably the one who played the biggest part in sowing the seeds of Brexit in the first place. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:12 - Feb 17 with 1859 views | Dracan66 |
I'm open to debate on this but attacking the Tories for pushing through Brexit when the majority of British people voted for it smacks of sour grapes. Whether your labour, Tory or aligned to any other party we all want an open and honest debate in formulating the best Brexit plan for the British people in accordance with a realistic timeline. | | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:16 - Feb 17 with 1875 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:12 - Feb 17 by Dracan66 |
I'm open to debate on this but attacking the Tories for pushing through Brexit when the majority of British people voted for it smacks of sour grapes. Whether your labour, Tory or aligned to any other party we all want an open and honest debate in formulating the best Brexit plan for the British people in accordance with a realistic timeline. |
I agree with the crux but it's a fact that if it wasn't for Cameron trying to lance the decades old Tory boil on Europe while at the same time trying to pull the rug from under Farage and UKIP there wouldn't have been a referendum. It was an attempted quick fix for internal Tory divisions which backfired on the instigator in the most spectacular way imaginable. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:41 - Feb 17 with 1850 views | BigPhilG |
Blair is an arrogant fool. I know people who voted to remain and others who vote to leave. I don't know anyone who didn't know what they voted for or change their minds either from either side. He's probably only interested in lining his own pockets the corrupt greedy little sod |  | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:52 - Feb 17 with 1841 views | SnakePlissken |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 17:20 - Feb 17 by Darran |
Well that big champion of the left Gary Lineker thinks he's great anyway,though the even bigger champion of the left George Galloway disagrees.
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So in other words, although blair has caused untold deaths on all
Sides through his decisions, responsible for destroying the middle east and making the world the most dangerous its probably ever been whilst making millions off it, that's OK with wingnut lineker because blair spouts the same left wing shlt that lineker agrees with. Got to love these champagne socialist lol | | | |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 20:51 - Feb 17 with 1811 views | Kilkennyjack |
I do like mr lineker.
Mr Blair is quite correct, of course.
Its more than a shame that Jezza Corbyn failed to rally the Labour vote to Remain.
And then compounded that monumental failure by actually voting for hard Tory Brexit.
Normal people will suffer and Labour went missing in action. Unforgivable.
I am not keen on mr blair btw. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 21:06 - Feb 17 with 1797 views | felixstowe_jack |
Blair promised a referendum before we signed the Lisbon treaty then changed his mind and signed it anyway. His wife Cherie made millions out of the ECHR she must still need the money. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 21:12 - Feb 17 with 1794 views | sherpajacob |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 19:09 - Feb 17 by exiledclaseboy |
As a couple of others have said, I agree with pretty much everything Blair said today. Quite why they thought that the almost universally despised Tony Blair was the best person to deliver this important message is beyond me though. |
This,
Many on PS criticising the man, as is their right, I also cannot forgive him for the war in Iraq that IDS had implored him to start 6 months earlier.
However, it's impossible to put any coherent or logical argument against anything he said in his speech today.
It was similar in content to the speech Mrs May made when home secretary early in 2016. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 21:15 - Feb 17 with 1785 views | Dr_Winston |
If the Remain camp thought that getting Blair to speak out on their behalf was a wise move, their strategists are even f*cking dumber than Donald Trump. |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 21:57 - Feb 17 with 1746 views | trampie |
Blair is a Brit Nat Red Tory, he was more of a Tory than Mrs Thatcher look at the sad state the country is in as a legacy and look at all the dead in the Middle East including our own soldiers and the associated problem as another legacy.
As a socialist I will never understand why people voted for Thatcher and Blair, I wonder if the people that voted for Thatcher and Blair now regret it ? |  |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 22:05 - Feb 17 with 1737 views | Dr_Winston |
| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 21:57 - Feb 17 by trampie |
Blair is a Brit Nat Red Tory, he was more of a Tory than Mrs Thatcher look at the sad state the country is in as a legacy and look at all the dead in the Middle East including our own soldiers and the associated problem as another legacy.
As a socialist I will never understand why people voted for Thatcher and Blair, I wonder if the people that voted for Thatcher and Blair now regret it ? |
Judging by the polling figures anyone even remotely left wing is getting, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no Tramps. | |
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| Blair on Brexit.Incredible on 08:29 - Feb 18 with 1674 views | Martyrman57 |
Tony Bliar is a warmongerer who tried to foist the Euro on us. Consign him to history or impeach for treason. All he is trying to do is line his pocket with more buck$ for his next round of after dinner speeches. | | | |
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