| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:03 - Feb 11 with 3817 views | Highjack |
He's all heart uncle vinnie |  |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:04 - Feb 11 with 3815 views | ScoobyDoo |
Well more shots on goal will do me buddy. |  | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:06 - Feb 11 with 3807 views | acejack3065 |
If this does come to fruition, what has Uncle Vinny actually done wrong apart from the rebrand? |  | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:21 - Feb 11 with 3741 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:06 - Feb 11 by acejack3065 |
If this does come to fruition, what has Uncle Vinny actually done wrong apart from the rebrand? |
The rebrand was a big issue and the way he treated long and loyal supporters, some that have never set foot in there since. I must admit I have never been his biggest fan but he has taken the wind out of my sails with this announcement. | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:25 - Feb 11 with 3719 views | acejack3065 |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:21 - Feb 11 by ScoobyDoo |
The rebrand was a big issue and the way he treated long and loyal supporters, some that have never set foot in there since. I must admit I have never been his biggest fan but he has taken the wind out of my sails with this announcement. |
I can imagine the rebrand hurt like hell but people who stay away are now starting to run out of excuses. | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:26 - Feb 11 with 3714 views | oldcob |
Lets hope he's as good as his word. | | | |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:38 - Feb 11 with 3653 views | DanGom1 |
Yeah debt free because they'll be out of business...... | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:45 - Feb 11 with 3614 views | Swanzay |
Im guessing he doesn't SH anymore.
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:49 - Feb 11 with 3581 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
So why is he doing all this then ?? |  |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:58 - Feb 11 with 3545 views | Flashberryjack |
Maybe it's me......but something doesn't smell right. |  |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:01 - Feb 11 with 3526 views | longlostjack |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:49 - Feb 11 by oh_tommy_tommy |
So why is he doing all this then ?? |
Desperate to sell at a guess ! |  |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:04 - Feb 11 with 3511 views | taffpunk |
I've never understood any of it , I just turn up now and then,watch them play, and get pissed with my mates! Give me the simplicity of watching Ton+Gelli Amateurs any day. | |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:21 - Feb 11 with 3430 views | Vinnie |
Seriously,who gives a flying one ? | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:23 - Feb 11 with 3413 views | Jack1 |
This is good news for them in regard to historical debt, but what about for the next few years?
I'm sure I read somewhere that Tan wants the club to balance the books every year. I'm assuming they sold Joe Mason in order to do this?
Does that mean they'll need to sell one or more of their players each season? If so, getting promotion will be tough, especially with the parachute payments decreasing year on year.
Or is Tan going to invest heavy again? | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:33 - Feb 11 with 3373 views | blueytheblue |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:23 - Feb 11 by Jack1 |
This is good news for them in regard to historical debt, but what about for the next few years?
I'm sure I read somewhere that Tan wants the club to balance the books every year. I'm assuming they sold Joe Mason in order to do this?
Does that mean they'll need to sell one or more of their players each season? If so, getting promotion will be tough, especially with the parachute payments decreasing year on year.
Or is Tan going to invest heavy again? |
We sold Mason because 3.5m was far too good a deal to turn down. I'd have bitten Jackett's arm of for 1.5m -2m. Mason is neat, can be a decent finisher but looks lightweight, lacks real pace.
Every cub is a selling club - haven't you balanced the books by being canny in the transfer market, maximising sale prices?
I'd doubt Tan will invest too heavily in the future, having been burnt by Mackay and OGS. | |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:39 - Feb 11 with 3352 views | getcarter |
He would never recoup the debt and is the only way of attracting new owners. Season tickets will be on sale shortly. | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:45 - Feb 11 with 3332 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 18:49 - Feb 11 by oh_tommy_tommy |
So why is he doing all this then ?? |
He's pretty much the only creditor and only shareholder (he'll dilute the others down to virtually nothing with this).
If he's planning to sell in the future he'll make a loss either way (as I can't imagine he'd get £100m or whatever it is for the club).
It is generally more flexible for tax purposes in most territories to make a loss on equity investment than on debt (both are capital losses but equity losses can be taken against income as well as capital gains and debt losses only against capital gains).
Maybe wrong, but that would be my guess. | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:46 - Feb 11 with 3323 views | blueytheblue |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:45 - Feb 11 by londonlisa2001 |
He's pretty much the only creditor and only shareholder (he'll dilute the others down to virtually nothing with this).
If he's planning to sell in the future he'll make a loss either way (as I can't imagine he'd get £100m or whatever it is for the club).
It is generally more flexible for tax purposes in most territories to make a loss on equity investment than on debt (both are capital losses but equity losses can be taken against income as well as capital gains and debt losses only against capital gains).
Maybe wrong, but that would be my guess. |
My thoughts too. | |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:47 - Feb 11 with 3320 views | Jack1 |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:33 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
We sold Mason because 3.5m was far too good a deal to turn down. I'd have bitten Jackett's arm of for 1.5m -2m. Mason is neat, can be a decent finisher but looks lightweight, lacks real pace.
Every cub is a selling club - haven't you balanced the books by being canny in the transfer market, maximising sale prices?
I'd doubt Tan will invest too heavily in the future, having been burnt by Mackay and OGS. |
I agree, it was a good fee you got for mason and also that every club is a selling club (us included).
Out of interest, if Tan doesn't invest further (I can see why he wouldn't after your last 2 managers), and you have to keep selling decent players every season, where do you see yourselves being in a few years time? | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:54 - Feb 11 with 3277 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:46 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
My thoughts too. |
When I read it my first thought was he's planning to sell and he has good tax people! | | | |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 20:10 - Feb 11 with 3228 views | blueytheblue |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 19:47 - Feb 11 by Jack1 |
I agree, it was a good fee you got for mason and also that every club is a selling club (us included).
Out of interest, if Tan doesn't invest further (I can see why he wouldn't after your last 2 managers), and you have to keep selling decent players every season, where do you see yourselves being in a few years time? |
Key will be maximising income on those players, being cuter about signings. Maybe get more coming through from the Academy.
Difficult to say where we'd be; I suspect worst case fighting relegation from the championship. | |
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| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 20:22 - Feb 11 with 3182 views | Jack1 |
| Crapdiff will be debt free by 2021. on 20:10 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
Key will be maximising income on those players, being cuter about signings. Maybe get more coming through from the Academy.
Difficult to say where we'd be; I suspect worst case fighting relegation from the championship. |
Is Russell Slades the man for that? Do you play many Academy players?
I thought you'd struggle this season to he honest and I'm surprised you're as high as you are. I had you finishing around 14th - shows how much I know! | | | |
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this cracked me up aswell 