| Where did it all go wrong on 23:00 - Dec 7 with 5452 views | ItchySphincter |
Garry Monk try to fix what ain't broke.
P!ssed on his chips. |  |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 23:09 - Dec 7 with 5423 views | mysonsarejacks |
It is crazy that only a few weeks ago GM was being touted as an England manager ( I thought it might happen one day) now it's come to this.
OP has a good point - how did it happen?? Is it 'player power'?
GM looks a bit of a shadow of himself at the moment - still some fighting talk - but really feel for the guy. |  |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 23:15 - Dec 7 with 5397 views | TNT |
A lot of people got bored of the tiki-taka, short passing game, and wanted something different.
I'm sure someone posted on here, 'be careful what you wish for'. |  |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 23:22 - Dec 7 with 5363 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
The final straw for myself and most here was likely his interview - he looked clueless and completely defeated. Clearly he's lost - no other ideas and we still haven't see his 'Plan B or C'.
It is a huge shame - hell of a fall so far. | |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 00:09 - Dec 8 with 5277 views | Loyal |
It hasn't gone wrong. |  |
| Nolan sympathiser, clout expert, personal friend of Leigh Dineen, advocate and enforcer of porridge swallows.
The official inventor of the tit w@nk. | | Poll: | Who should be Swansea number 1 |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 00:14 - Dec 8 with 5266 views | SwansNZ |
| Where did it all go wrong on 00:09 - Dec 8 by Loyal |
It hasn't gone wrong. |
Is it right? |  |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 00:15 - Dec 8 with 5265 views | Loyal |
| Where did it all go wrong on 00:14 - Dec 8 by SwansNZ |
Is it right? |
Definitely not, but it isn't ALL wrong either. | |
| Nolan sympathiser, clout expert, personal friend of Leigh Dineen, advocate and enforcer of porridge swallows.
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| Where did it all go wrong on 09:37 - Dec 8 with 5066 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
| Where did it all go wrong on 00:15 - Dec 8 by Loyal |
Definitely not, but it isn't ALL wrong either. |
Of course not. 1 win in 12 is perfectly.....
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| Where did it all go wrong on 09:40 - Dec 8 with 5052 views | lovejuicejack |
| Where did it all go wrong on 00:15 - Dec 8 by Loyal |
Definitely not, but it isn't ALL wrong either. |
Your mad bruv |  | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 09:51 - Dec 8 with 5026 views | Loyal |
| Where did it all go wrong on 09:40 - Dec 8 by lovejuicejack |
Your mad bruv |
I love you. | |
| Nolan sympathiser, clout expert, personal friend of Leigh Dineen, advocate and enforcer of porridge swallows.
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| Where did it all go wrong on 09:54 - Dec 8 with 5012 views | lovejuicejack |
| Where did it all go wrong on 09:51 - Dec 8 by Loyal |
I love you. |
Love you more squashy | | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:04 - Dec 8 with 4992 views | Zut_Alors |
Of course, this is total speculation, but I hazard a guess that Monk has fallen into the trap of not dealing with the fact that some players don't have the same give everything outlook to the game that he has/had. I'm not saying it's the players fault, but just that's the reality of mid table teams. It's hard to keep them motivated if they're not chasing a transfer to a big club, working to earn a new managers trust, a points record, or protecting their pay packets in a final push against relegation.
Without enough experience in recruitment, he failed to shape the team this season to reflect the desired mentality he wanted. For me, there's no better illustration of this than the ways he's tried to shoe horn in crash, bang, wallop Bartley into a defence over two far more skilled players, in Amat and Fernandez. The sad thing is that tactically Monk is actually more astute than many would like to believe. Those weren't fluke wins last season and some of the changes he made were excellent. |  | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:06 - Dec 8 with 4985 views | magicdaps10 |
Monk getting too big for his boots...........thats what happened. |  |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 10:11 - Dec 8 with 4975 views | jasper_T |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:04 - Dec 8 by Zut_Alors |
Of course, this is total speculation, but I hazard a guess that Monk has fallen into the trap of not dealing with the fact that some players don't have the same give everything outlook to the game that he has/had. I'm not saying it's the players fault, but just that's the reality of mid table teams. It's hard to keep them motivated if they're not chasing a transfer to a big club, working to earn a new managers trust, a points record, or protecting their pay packets in a final push against relegation.
Without enough experience in recruitment, he failed to shape the team this season to reflect the desired mentality he wanted. For me, there's no better illustration of this than the ways he's tried to shoe horn in crash, bang, wallop Bartley into a defence over two far more skilled players, in Amat and Fernandez. The sad thing is that tactically Monk is actually more astute than many would like to believe. Those weren't fluke wins last season and some of the changes he made were excellent. |
I'd say that he's not smart enough to realise that the "give everything" attitude isn't the best course of action for every situation, and has become trapped in a cycle of demanding more and more effort to counter poor performances.
We were flying at the start of the season. Fitness levels were great after pre-season training. But he hasn't wound down when fixtures domestic and international have piled up around the squad. So now the whole team looks lethargic and barely able to move.
Ki has spent the whole season either playing, injured or on a plane. The lad needed a week off after the last international "break", I'm not surprised he's ambling around the pitch. | | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:22 - Dec 8 with 4945 views | Zut_Alors |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:11 - Dec 8 by jasper_T |
I'd say that he's not smart enough to realise that the "give everything" attitude isn't the best course of action for every situation, and has become trapped in a cycle of demanding more and more effort to counter poor performances.
We were flying at the start of the season. Fitness levels were great after pre-season training. But he hasn't wound down when fixtures domestic and international have piled up around the squad. So now the whole team looks lethargic and barely able to move.
Ki has spent the whole season either playing, injured or on a plane. The lad needed a week off after the last international "break", I'm not surprised he's ambling around the pitch. |
Absolutely. That's exactly what I was suggesting, something that I would hope experience will give him. And I agree that player fatigue looks like an issue. It's interesting that we've had the fewest injuries this season, but I wonder whether that has to do with some of our players playing under full capacity. | | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:35 - Dec 8 with 4910 views | BalhamSwan |
he took us to the next level and then couldn't work out what to do when teams decided to park the bus against us. No room for jeff, bafe & ayew to run into against a deep defence so we just pass it around aimlessly. It's gone on so long now all confidence is shot. |  | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:42 - Dec 8 with 4885 views | Jack_Kass |
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. | |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 10:51 - Dec 8 with 4864 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
| Where did it all go wrong on 10:42 - Dec 8 by Jack_Kass |
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. |
Nothing more fitting than a Batman quote at a time like this.
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| Where did it all go wrong on 10:57 - Dec 8 with 4843 views | LeonisGod |
It all started going wrong when we bought Wilf and changed our game plan to play longer to the big man. We've lost the midfield zip and been papering over cracks ever since. Much of the football last season wasn't the best if we're being honest. But we did have spirit and determination, with a sprinkling of individual quality, and that carried us to our best PL finish. I've no idea where that spirit has gone. |  | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 12:17 - Dec 8 with 4750 views | Jack_Kass |
All started wrong when we bought Wilf?..
The best player we've ever had? I cant av that.. | |
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| Where did it all go wrong on 12:47 - Dec 8 with 4687 views | LeonisGod |
| Where did it all go wrong on 12:17 - Dec 8 by Jack_Kass |
All started wrong when we bought Wilf?..
The best player we've ever had? I cant av that.. |
I did't say Wilf wasn't a good player for us. But we're still looking for the long out ball to a strong target man. Wilf can't help us there now. The change in our style coincided with Wilf arriving. And it worked whilst we had him. A lot of posters are saying we've lost our identity and that was a key step in the change imo | | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 13:33 - Dec 8 with 4625 views | Jack_Kass |
| Where did it all go wrong on 12:47 - Dec 8 by LeonisGod |
I did't say Wilf wasn't a good player for us. But we're still looking for the long out ball to a strong target man. Wilf can't help us there now. The change in our style coincided with Wilf arriving. And it worked whilst we had him. A lot of posters are saying we've lost our identity and that was a key step in the change imo |
Wilf was far more than a target man. A sublime finisher, the which fit well into any style of play.
If you want to look for where our 'style' drastically changed, it wasn't through the addition of a player, it was the appointment of a manager with an entrenched mentality of defence first, and grinding out the results.
Years gone by, we used to have off days and still outplay teams comfortably, because technically we were levels above them, beating Sunderland 4-0 a couple of seasons ago, when to all extents we were dog awful on the day, a prime example.
Under Garry, we either defend well, or we lose. [Post edited 8 Dec 2015 13:33]
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| Where did it all go wrong on 16:26 - Dec 8 with 4556 views | LeonisGod |
| Where did it all go wrong on 13:33 - Dec 8 by Jack_Kass |
Wilf was far more than a target man. A sublime finisher, the which fit well into any style of play.
If you want to look for where our 'style' drastically changed, it wasn't through the addition of a player, it was the appointment of a manager with an entrenched mentality of defence first, and grinding out the results.
Years gone by, we used to have off days and still outplay teams comfortably, because technically we were levels above them, beating Sunderland 4-0 a couple of seasons ago, when to all extents we were dog awful on the day, a prime example.
Under Garry, we either defend well, or we lose. [Post edited 8 Dec 2015 13:33]
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I'm fairly sure we started relying on the long ball as soon as Wilf came in, so this pre-dates Garry. That was one of my bug bears in ML's 2nd season that our slick passing game was being eroded. Garry's just put the final nail in the coffin.
Not sure Wilf would be suited to any type of game, but that's probably another discussion. | | | |
| Where did it all go wrong on 16:51 - Dec 8 with 4521 views | Landore_Jack |
1. The playing style is definitely a difference. I hardly recognize the Swansea way.
2. Getting rid of Dyer is a mystery. He should have got a replacement.
3. Not replacing Bony in the summer.
4. Apart from the Ayew, the summer signings are not good enough.
5. He publically slated Shelvey when he said the Swans could reach Champions League.
6. Blaming the fans for the draw against Bournemouth.
7. His selections for some games. I.E Bartley for FF and Routledge for Montero. |  |
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