| Wigan 19:03 - Apr 6 with 17427 views | NR_Dale |
Don't want to take the shine off today but, With Mackay gone hilly has to be in the running.... |  | | |  |
| Wigan on 19:13 - Apr 6 with 8315 views | ColDale |
K Hill: "Choose the chairman, not the club"
Dave Whelan seems to be giving managers no more than six months since Martinez left. |  | | |
| Wigan on 19:18 - Apr 6 with 8251 views | macro |
| Wigan on 19:13 - Apr 6 by ColDale |
K Hill: "Choose the chairman, not the club"
Dave Whelan seems to be giving managers no more than six months since Martinez left. |
Whelan isn't chairman anymore. |  | | |
| Wigan on 19:19 - Apr 6 with 8232 views | pioneer |
| Wigan on 19:13 - Apr 6 by ColDale |
K Hill: "Choose the chairman, not the club"
Dave Whelan seems to be giving managers no more than six months since Martinez left. |
Isnt it his 20 something year old grandson running the show now?
mackay was always going to be a disaster after his Cardiff problems - I think Whelan must have been attracted to him by his similar views on race relations! |  | | |
| Wigan on 19:32 - Apr 6 with 8141 views | ColDale |
| Wigan on 19:18 - Apr 6 by macro |
Whelan isn't chairman anymore. |
he might not be chairman but do you think he's not pulling all the strings? | | | |
| Wigan on 19:37 - Apr 6 with 8102 views | macro |
| Wigan on 19:32 - Apr 6 by ColDale |
he might not be chairman but do you think he's not pulling all the strings? |
According to five live no - they reckon this is the action of the grandson and chief exec | | | |
| Wigan on 19:52 - Apr 6 with 7977 views | Ralphs12 |
| Wigan on 19:37 - Apr 6 by macro |
According to five live no - they reckon this is the action of the grandson and chief exec |
Must be true then |  | | |
| Wigan on 20:03 - Apr 6 with 7908 views | StudiousDale |
Can't see Wigan not appointing before end of season given the position they're in. Can't see them appointing Hill given the position they're in. Can't see Hilly going to them with 5/6 games left given the position they're in. |  | | |
| Wigan on 21:06 - Apr 6 with 7674 views | TommoRAFC |
| Wigan on 19:13 - Apr 6 by ColDale |
K Hill: "Choose the chairman, not the club"
Dave Whelan seems to be giving managers no more than six months since Martinez left. |
Never mind Wigan, City will be looking for a new manager at this rate! | |
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| Wigan on 21:19 - Apr 6 with 7576 views | zxcvbnm |
Graham Barrow still there? |  |
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| Wigan on 21:45 - Apr 6 with 7468 views | WhiteyBFC |
If offered it, he'd be off in a heartbeat. |  | | |
| Wigan on 21:48 - Apr 6 with 7446 views | R17ALE |
| Wigan on 21:45 - Apr 6 by WhiteyBFC |
If offered it, he'd be off in a heartbeat. |
I doubt it. Wigan are returning to their true level. Hilly is building a long term plan here which, over time, will usurp anything Wigan will achieve, whoever the manager is. |  |
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| Wigan on 22:44 - Apr 6 with 7262 views | Brierls |
| Wigan on 19:37 - Apr 6 by macro |
According to five live no - they reckon this is the action of the grandson and chief exec |
Jonathan Jackson has been 'in charge' at Wigan for years. Whelan has been the public face (and owner, obviously), and unfortunately for Wigan the public voice, but Jackson has been pulling the strings on a daily basis because Whelan is out of the country so often.
I don't for one minute think that Whelan won't have input on every important decision that is made there. |  | | |
| Wigan on 22:49 - Apr 6 with 7238 views | pioneer |
I hope his long term plan involves sorting out the marketing department because we have a long way to go to match Wigan's crowds...and they stareted off way behind us in non league. | | | |
| Wigan on 23:21 - Apr 6 with 7152 views | flyerdale |
| Wigan on 19:52 - Apr 6 by Ralphs12 |
Must be true then |
Arrggg why put that dickhead into the equation? |  | | |
| Wigan on 23:30 - Apr 6 with 7132 views | Brierls |
| Wigan on 21:48 - Apr 6 by R17ALE |
I doubt it. Wigan are returning to their true level. Hilly is building a long term plan here which, over time, will usurp anything Wigan will achieve, whoever the manager is. |
If I'd read that on the bury board I'd have been laughing at them.
Wigan are a much bigger club than us now. Forget about their humble beginnings, they made massive strides under Whelan, and they've grown as a club. The had 14,500 fans at the game today, in a season where they're struggling at the bottom of the table! If they get the right manager, they have the infrastructure to do well in the Championship and in time challenge again for the Premier League.
Hilly is a different animal to his first spell here, I genuinely feel he loves the club and knows the grass isn't always greener, but lets not kid ourselves that we shouldn't be worried if Wigan come calling. | | | |
| Wigan on 07:40 - Apr 7 with 6975 views | fitzochris |
| Wigan on 23:30 - Apr 6 by Brierls |
If I'd read that on the bury board I'd have been laughing at them.
Wigan are a much bigger club than us now. Forget about their humble beginnings, they made massive strides under Whelan, and they've grown as a club. The had 14,500 fans at the game today, in a season where they're struggling at the bottom of the table! If they get the right manager, they have the infrastructure to do well in the Championship and in time challenge again for the Premier League.
Hilly is a different animal to his first spell here, I genuinely feel he loves the club and knows the grass isn't always greener, but lets not kid ourselves that we shouldn't be worried if Wigan come calling. |
I've just talked about this in the 'Hill is a great manager' thread. I agree that Wigan, once inevitably relegated, would represent a project that could interest Hilly.
However, he may be put off by the pressure of a 'return to the Premiership within two years' dictat.
We know Hilly likes to build his squads bit by bit and promote youth players. He may not be given time to do that at Wigan.
But aye, I would be worried if they came a callin'. |  |
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| Wigan on 08:49 - Apr 7 with 6862 views | ColDale |
| Wigan on 07:40 - Apr 7 by fitzochris |
I've just talked about this in the 'Hill is a great manager' thread. I agree that Wigan, once inevitably relegated, would represent a project that could interest Hilly.
However, he may be put off by the pressure of a 'return to the Premiership within two years' dictat.
We know Hilly likes to build his squads bit by bit and promote youth players. He may not be given time to do that at Wigan.
But aye, I would be worried if they came a callin'. |
If / when Hill moves on, he can't afford it not to work out like it did at Barnsley or he'll forever be known as a one club manager. The ingredients would have to be right that allow him to take a club into the Premier league. If excellent managers such as Rosler and Mackay have failed, and there's no indication that Wigan as a club are prepared to back a manager like they've done previously, why would it be any different for Hill? | | | |
| Wigan on 08:54 - Apr 7 with 6846 views | fitzochris |
| Wigan on 08:49 - Apr 7 by ColDale |
If / when Hill moves on, he can't afford it not to work out like it did at Barnsley or he'll forever be known as a one club manager. The ingredients would have to be right that allow him to take a club into the Premier league. If excellent managers such as Rosler and Mackay have failed, and there's no indication that Wigan as a club are prepared to back a manager like they've done previously, why would it be any different for Hill? |
It may not be any different for Hill, which is why I doubt, as I said, he would leave if the aim is to get back to the Premiership within two seasons.
If, however, there is a realisation at Wigan that they need to take stock and rebuild, and they are willing to do that, then Hill would be their man, no question.
But let's make no mistake, the resources available to Hill at Wigan, coupled with the club's geographical location, would be a temptation, IF he was given time.
I hope not though. | |
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| Wigan on 09:12 - Apr 7 with 6794 views | TalkingSutty |
| Wigan on 21:48 - Apr 6 by R17ALE |
I doubt it. Wigan are returning to their true level. Hilly is building a long term plan here which, over time, will usurp anything Wigan will achieve, whoever the manager is. |
Can't agree with that, Wigan have moved on and no longer play at Springfield Park. They will probably be favourites to return straight back to the Championship and will still be receiving parachute payments from the Premiership I would imagine.
It's a great opportunity for a lot of managers but I don't see them taking a gamble on Hilly, they will want somebody with proven Championship experience and there are loads of out of work managers who might fit the bill. |  | | |
| Wigan on 09:27 - Apr 7 with 6758 views | SuddenLad |
| Wigan on 09:12 - Apr 7 by TalkingSutty |
Can't agree with that, Wigan have moved on and no longer play at Springfield Park. They will probably be favourites to return straight back to the Championship and will still be receiving parachute payments from the Premiership I would imagine.
It's a great opportunity for a lot of managers but I don't see them taking a gamble on Hilly, they will want somebody with proven Championship experience and there are loads of out of work managers who might fit the bill. |
They were favourites to bounce back into the Premiership. Look what happened. How many of their 14,500 home crowd will be turning up to watch Burton on a Tuesday night ?
They may well have moved on from their dizzy heights, but they're well on the way to returning to their 'natural level'
Any new manager will have untold pressures placed on his shoulders to reverse the slide and they will be looking for someone with experience at Premiership level (or top end of the Championship at the very least) to achieve their goal.
Someone like Tony Mowbray would be a good fit. |  |
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| Wigan on 09:56 - Apr 7 with 6712 views | R17ALE |
| Wigan on 23:30 - Apr 6 by Brierls |
If I'd read that on the bury board I'd have been laughing at them.
Wigan are a much bigger club than us now. Forget about their humble beginnings, they made massive strides under Whelan, and they've grown as a club. The had 14,500 fans at the game today, in a season where they're struggling at the bottom of the table! If they get the right manager, they have the infrastructure to do well in the Championship and in time challenge again for the Premier League.
Hilly is a different animal to his first spell here, I genuinely feel he loves the club and knows the grass isn't always greener, but lets not kid ourselves that we shouldn't be worried if Wigan come calling. |
What I meant was, if Hilly's long term plan can see Dale using home grown products to gradually evolve us into the Championship, then that will be far greater than Whelan's millions transforming what was a non-league club into Premiership contenders.
Don't get me wrong, Wigan's transformation is remarkable, but ours is a miracle! | |
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| Wigan on 13:43 - Apr 7 with 6536 views | pioneer |
Didn't he start out at the Rochdale Observer before moving on to bigger things? | | | |
| Wigan on 13:59 - Apr 7 with 6495 views | Dale23years |
| Wigan on 13:43 - Apr 7 by pioneer |
Didn't he start out at the Rochdale Observer before moving on to bigger things? |
would Keith wanna work with a 22 year old Chairman | |
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| Wigan on 14:44 - Apr 7 with 6424 views | WhiteyBFC |
| Wigan on 21:48 - Apr 6 by R17ALE |
I doubt it. Wigan are returning to their true level. Hilly is building a long term plan here which, over time, will usurp anything Wigan will achieve, whoever the manager is. |
That's the most hilarious thing I've read today.
Wigan will be certain favourites for promotion next season. They've had 8 years in the top flight. They've won a major trophy, they have £32,000,000 to come in parachute payments. 20 years ago, they were similar to Rochdale, probably smaller? But since then, they've probably done enough to now be considered a more successful club than us. More years in the top flight, same number of major trophies, played in Europe, average similar crowds (for now).
You're going to usurp them?
If you seriously think that Keith would turn them (or most clubs) down to stay at Dale, you're kidding yourself.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wigan slump back into their usual historical status, like Oldham did, Luton too. But they'd still be a far better/bigger/more lucrative proposition than Rochdale. I mean no offence with that, but you're overachieving immensely, it's staggering what Keith's doing with you again. Yet you struggle to get 2,500 fans in to watch you in this glory era. No fanbase, no future (not at the levels above). Fingers crossed that upon a potential promotion this season you stumble upon another 4,000 or so supporters, and even then you'd have no chance in the second tier. Ask Keith. It's all about the money up there. He told us after every consecutive defeat. | | | |
| Wigan on 14:49 - Apr 7 with 6414 views | TVOS1907 |
| Wigan on 14:44 - Apr 7 by WhiteyBFC |
That's the most hilarious thing I've read today.
Wigan will be certain favourites for promotion next season. They've had 8 years in the top flight. They've won a major trophy, they have £32,000,000 to come in parachute payments. 20 years ago, they were similar to Rochdale, probably smaller? But since then, they've probably done enough to now be considered a more successful club than us. More years in the top flight, same number of major trophies, played in Europe, average similar crowds (for now).
You're going to usurp them?
If you seriously think that Keith would turn them (or most clubs) down to stay at Dale, you're kidding yourself.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wigan slump back into their usual historical status, like Oldham did, Luton too. But they'd still be a far better/bigger/more lucrative proposition than Rochdale. I mean no offence with that, but you're overachieving immensely, it's staggering what Keith's doing with you again. Yet you struggle to get 2,500 fans in to watch you in this glory era. No fanbase, no future (not at the levels above). Fingers crossed that upon a potential promotion this season you stumble upon another 4,000 or so supporters, and even then you'd have no chance in the second tier. Ask Keith. It's all about the money up there. He told us after every consecutive defeat. |
Wigan's usual historical status is non-league football. |  |
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