| Lech Walesa 13:32 - Mar 4 with 1024 views | SaintNick |
Has sent a very scathing letter to Donald Trump, perhaps a reminder of what things used to be like for those countries under the USSR.
Your Excellency, Mr. President,
We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, with fear and distaste. We find it insulting that you expect Ukraine to show respect and gratitude for the material assistance provided by the United States in its fight against russia. Gratitude is owed to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the front lines for more than 11 years in the name of these values and the independence of their homeland, which was attacked by Putin’s russia.
We do not understand how the leader of a country that symbolizes the free world cannot recognize this.
Our alarm was also heightened by the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation, which reminded us of the interrogations we endured at the hands of the Security Services and the debates in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, acting on behalf of the all-powerful communist political police, would explain to us that they held all the power while we held none. They demanded that we cease our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffered because of us. They stripped us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government or express gratitude for our oppression. We are shocked that President Volodymyr Zelensky was treated in the same manner.
The history of the 20th century shows that whenever the United States sought to distance itself from democratic values and its European allies, it ultimately became a threat to itself. President Woodrow Wilson understood this when he decided in 1917 that the United States must join World War I. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood this when, after the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, he resolved that the war to defend America must be fought not only in the Pacific but also in Europe, in alliance with the nations under attack by the Third Reich.
We remember that without President Ronald Reagan and America’s financial commitment, the collapse of the Soviet empire would not have been possible. President Reagan recognized that millions of enslaved people suffered in Soviet russia and the countries it had subjugated, including thousands of political prisoners who paid for their defense of democratic values with their freedom. His greatness lay, among other things, in his unwavering decision to call the USSR an “Empire of Evil” and to fight it decisively. We won, and today, the statue of President Ronald Reagan stands in Warsaw, facing the U.S. Embassy.
Mr. President, material aid—military and financial—can never be equated with the blood shed in the name of Ukraine’s independence and the freedom of Europe and the entire free world. Human life is priceless; its value cannot be measured in money. Gratitude is due to those who sacrifice their blood and their freedom. This is self-evident to us, the people of Solidarity, former political prisoners of the communist regime under Soviet russia.
We call on the United States to uphold the guarantees made alongside Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which established a direct obligation to defend Ukraine’s territorial integrity in exchange for its relinquishment of nuclear weapons. These guarantees are unconditional—there is no mention of treating such assistance as an economic transaction.
Signed,
Lech Wałęsa, former political prisoner, President of Poland |  |
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| Lech Walesa on 13:37 - Mar 4 with 996 views | DorsetIan |
I read that and had to double check that he was still alive and it wasn't a spoof.
Donald Trump is used to being the bully. It's part of his DNA. His sympathies are always going to lie with the strong/the oppressor.
Uncle Lech is wasting his breath. |  |
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| Lech Walesa on 13:38 - Mar 4 with 991 views | PatfromPoole |
| Lech Walesa on 13:37 - Mar 4 by DorsetIan |
I read that and had to double check that he was still alive and it wasn't a spoof.
Donald Trump is used to being the bully. It's part of his DNA. His sympathies are always going to lie with the strong/the oppressor.
Uncle Lech is wasting his breath. |
I just did exactly the same....... |  |
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| Lech Walesa on 14:05 - Mar 4 with 928 views | SaintNick |
| Lech Walesa on 13:37 - Mar 4 by DorsetIan |
I read that and had to double check that he was still alive and it wasn't a spoof.
Donald Trump is used to being the bully. It's part of his DNA. His sympathies are always going to lie with the strong/the oppressor.
Uncle Lech is wasting his breath. |
When you say Uncle Lech is wasting his breath, that is exactly why he is standing up, people said he was wasting his breath back in the 1980's in Poland, but he stood up for what he saw as right.
He still doesn't sit back when something needs saying. | |
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| Lech Walesa on 14:25 - Mar 4 with 905 views | saint901 |
If the world sits back and accepts the bullying of Trump and his cult, then we will really deserve whatever he chooses to do. | | | |
| Lech Walesa on 14:56 - Mar 4 with 865 views | PaleRider |
Worth remembering: Only one country has ever asked for NATOs assistance.
America. After 9/11.
I think Trump and Vance are jealous of Zelenskyy - after all he's a real hero not just a motor mouth! [Post edited 4 Mar 14:57]
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| Lech Walesa on 15:58 - Mar 4 with 802 views | 1885_SFC |
| Lech Walesa on 14:56 - Mar 4 by PaleRider |
Worth remembering: Only one country has ever asked for NATOs assistance.
America. After 9/11.
I think Trump and Vance are jealous of Zelenskyy - after all he's a real hero not just a motor mouth! [Post edited 4 Mar 14:57]
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Trump has copped big time because he is desperate to win the Nobel Peace Prize and he can't do that all the while Zelensky plays hard ball. 'Donny' wants that Nobel prize for ending the war so that his ego can inflate even more than it currently is on the worldwide stage. |  |
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| Lech Walesa on 16:06 - Mar 4 with 799 views | DorsetIan |
| Lech Walesa on 14:05 - Mar 4 by SaintNick |
When you say Uncle Lech is wasting his breath, that is exactly why he is standing up, people said he was wasting his breath back in the 1980's in Poland, but he stood up for what he saw as right.
He still doesn't sit back when something needs saying. |
He didn't write a letter to General Jaruzelski, he took direct action in the form of strikes.
Everyone is wasting their breath trying to persuade Trump of anything. The US under Trump can no longer be relied upon and an ally.
Europe needs to step up and organise its own defence against Russian imperialism. | |
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| Lech Walesa on 16:09 - Mar 4 with 792 views | felly1 |
We need a European Army . Combined our resources.
We need to get this done fast. | | | |
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| Lech Walesa on 16:38 - Mar 4 with 762 views | 1885_SFC |
| Lech Walesa on 16:09 - Mar 4 by felly1 |
We need a European Army . Combined our resources.
We need to get this done fast. |
It's been talked about many times over the years.
Now that the US (Trump and his cohorts in particular) have betrayed Europe, including the UK - despite what Starmer might think, it's time to revisit the idea.
In the short term, Europe’s challenge is not replacing the U.S. military like-for-like. The challenge for Europe is to deter Russia from thinking about offensive action against EU territory. Fortunately, the Russian military has been battered by Ukraine. With the United States likely to end its military support for Ukraine, Europe should make sure Ukraine can continue the war effort and degrade and deplete Russia as much as possible. As cynical as this sounds, it buys Europe time. Europe then needs to focus on addressing major short-term gaps in capabilities. In particular, it needs more munitions and must produce them at a much-accelerated pace. Europe must also figure out how to fight together in the short term. This may involve ad hoc solutions. The point here is that Europe needs to take urgent, good-enough, steps to make its militaries mildly coherent. This is doable. | |
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| Lech Walesa on 17:14 - Mar 4 with 720 views | saint901 |
It is doable so long as we recognise that each nations' armies, air force and navy are better at some things than other nations.
Take Finland. They've given Russia a few beatings in the past because they know how to fight in winter in their forests.
Sweden has excellent armour and vehicles.
The French air force is well equipped. The Brits are perhaps special operations. (I recall a comment from a senior special ops team commenting about the drone attack on the Kremlin which was briefly thought to be an attempt to assassinate Putin. Asked if the British were behind it, he said "no". How do you know? "Because he's still alive".)
Part of the problem is however that Russia has already undermined some Eastern countries and they cannot be relied upon - Hungary, Romania, perhaps the Czech Republic. | | | |
| Lech Walesa on 17:27 - Mar 4 with 710 views | SpitMk9 |
IMHO::: This is 1938 revisited. Just substitute Putin for Hitler. USA was isolationist then and is almost there now. Trump is all about Trump and doesn't give a toss about anything or anyone else. I'm convinced he will try to amend the Constitution to give himself unlimited time in office. | | | |
| Lech Walesa on 17:31 - Mar 4 with 701 views | Ron11 |
I've worked with the likes of Trump and Vance in overseas Oil & Gas for many years. They're just gobshite redneck bullies who who when confronted couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
No doubt many millions of Americans will have been dismayed and embarrassed by their antics.
I've also worked in Ukraine for a long time, and you couldn't meet a more courteous, hospitable and smart race of people. It's always amazed me how the idiot Putin thought he would be in charge in Kyiv within a week. I'm not a native of Russia or Ukraine but even I know the Ukrainians would fight.
Apparently Putin didn't know them that well - or just didn't care. | | | |
| Lech Walesa on 19:51 - Mar 4 with 606 views | mountsaint |
Unfortunately the letter will never get to Trump apart from the fact he probably can't read. It will be kept from him and anyway he couldn't probably give a toss looking at so called trumped up charges. | | | |
| Lech Walesa on 14:26 - Mar 6 with 136 views | Newdawn2014 |
What a heartfelt letter ,I`m sure Donald`s Nanny will read it to him and explain all the big words .
Scary times for the world. | | | |
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