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Can we get 12 points? Not with this manager. 19:45 - Oct 19 with 831 viewsIfonly

We need 12 points to avoid Deby's worst ever PL record. At the moment we are on course for a total of 5 points, but that might be a bit optimistic. Of our 8 games, 3 have been among the easiest fixtures of the season, and 1 of the others was against 10 men.

I can understand when people say that the players are not good enough for the PL anyway, so changing the manager won't make any difference. But there is a big difference between fighting against relegation and complete capitulation. We are in danger of complete capitulation.

Relegation is almost certain but we need to go down fighting and avoid the tag of worst ever PL team. The players clearly have no belief or confidence in what they're doing and that is only going to get worse the more we lose. If we carry on as now, everything about the club will become toxic. One of the many implications of that will be that we can't attract the players we will need in the Championship next season.

This season is down the toilet already, but we need to get a new manager appointed quickly to stop everything turning to poison.
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Can we get 12 points? Not with this manager. on 20:23 - Oct 19 with 738 viewssaintwizzler

We have 3 PL standard players with, yet again, a manager who is way out of his league.

We thought that we had the answers, It was the questions we had wrong.
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Can we get 12 points? Not with this manager. on 20:31 - Oct 19 with 713 viewssaintmark1976

The first sentence of your second paragraph sums up our situation perfectly.

Our player recruitment in the last transfer window was utterly pathetic and gave Russell Martin ( or any other manager) no opportunity whatsoever of keeping us in the Premier League.

Do Sports Republic care about the Derby County record ? Not a chance in my opinion.

Now that relegation is all but assured they will simply want to minimise their losses. Thus, Russell Martin may well stay in position and simply have to make the best of a bad job with the limited resources at his disposal.

In a nutshell, Sports Republic it’s Owners, Board, Player Recruitment and Management are an outfit who have found their comfort zone which is The Championship and when relegated yet again, will be happy to stay there.

Put simply, it was proven the last time we were relegated that the Premier League is beyond their desire and capability and nothing has changed since.
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Can we get 12 points? Not with this manager. on 11:16 - Oct 20 with 394 viewsIfonly

Can we get 12 points? Not with this manager. on 20:31 - Oct 19 by saintmark1976

The first sentence of your second paragraph sums up our situation perfectly.

Our player recruitment in the last transfer window was utterly pathetic and gave Russell Martin ( or any other manager) no opportunity whatsoever of keeping us in the Premier League.

Do Sports Republic care about the Derby County record ? Not a chance in my opinion.

Now that relegation is all but assured they will simply want to minimise their losses. Thus, Russell Martin may well stay in position and simply have to make the best of a bad job with the limited resources at his disposal.

In a nutshell, Sports Republic it’s Owners, Board, Player Recruitment and Management are an outfit who have found their comfort zone which is The Championship and when relegated yet again, will be happy to stay there.

Put simply, it was proven the last time we were relegated that the Premier League is beyond their desire and capability and nothing has changed since.
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RM wont make "the best of a bad job" though, that's the point, he makes it much worse.

His mistakes again cost us yesterday. Just to pick one, the winning goal was an almost exact copy of the goal given away to Ipswich. There is something terribly wrong with the coaching if you make the exact same basic mistake like that. This is nothing to do with having quality players. You don't have to be a good player to do a basic job at a corner.
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