| Scouting 08:42 - Oct 6 with 2956 views | Gloucs_R |
Have we bought these players purely on the back of analytics or do you think we've actually scouted them? |  |
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| Scouting on 11:39 - Oct 6 with 2778 views | Dorse |
Whoever did the scouting might need a kick in the ging-gangs. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Scouting on 15:03 - Oct 6 with 2634 views | 1JD |
Nourry went all in a recruitment strategy driven by statistics. And that’s what happens when you’ve got a leader at the helm who is completely green. The less you know, the more confident you are.
We’ve gone full circle. We’ve gone from the Les era where UK players were prioritised, incidentally after our other data-driven, European trolley dash failed (see Sylla, Polter, Chery, Borisiuk, Wzolek)
To another data-driven European, trolly dash. Which is also doomed to fail.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” (George Santayana) |  | | |
| Scouting on 16:02 - Oct 6 with 2492 views | dutch |
| Scouting on 15:03 - Oct 6 by 1JD |
Nourry went all in a recruitment strategy driven by statistics. And that’s what happens when you’ve got a leader at the helm who is completely green. The less you know, the more confident you are.
We’ve gone full circle. We’ve gone from the Les era where UK players were prioritised, incidentally after our other data-driven, European trolley dash failed (see Sylla, Polter, Chery, Borisiuk, Wzolek)
To another data-driven European, trolly dash. Which is also doomed to fail.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” (George Santayana) |
Wzolek was alright, he'd get in this side for sure. | | | |
| Scouting on 23:22 - Oct 6 with 2143 views | queensparker |
| Scouting on 16:02 - Oct 6 by dutch |
Wzolek was alright, he'd get in this side for sure. |
So would Chery and Poulter |  | | |
| Scouting on 18:02 - Oct 7 with 1925 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Scouting on 15:03 - Oct 6 by 1JD |
Nourry went all in a recruitment strategy driven by statistics. And that’s what happens when you’ve got a leader at the helm who is completely green. The less you know, the more confident you are.
We’ve gone full circle. We’ve gone from the Les era where UK players were prioritised, incidentally after our other data-driven, European trolley dash failed (see Sylla, Polter, Chery, Borisiuk, Wzolek)
To another data-driven European, trolly dash. Which is also doomed to fail.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” (George Santayana) |
Les went to Columbia under the guise of scouting. Results speak for themselves there.
Absolutely wasn't a free holiday.
Data driven recruiting from European leagues has always been hit and miss I totally agree, what amazes me is the fact that we completely forgot to prioritise going after players who could physically compete.
If you want to play on the deck in the championship you need 5 or 6 units to even have a chance.
I think Madsen & Verane were the units brought in, trouble is Madsen is not looking suited to the league. Jurys out on Verane
Colback is another unit who can get physical but he plays in the same position as the other 2, truth is we have no muscle out wide and until Illy is back little success and even then I think a lot of teams have worked him out.
Unbalanced and unsuited to the system is my take on it. [Post edited 7 Oct 18:03]
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| Scouting on 18:54 - Oct 7 with 1808 views | Pindarus |
Analytics worked for Brighton and Brentford. Perhaps we need lessons. | | | |
| Scouting on 19:30 - Oct 7 with 1733 views | WestonsuperR |
Surely the club must have done their due diligence and watched these signings fairly significantly, particularly as we have previous little budget. Goes without saying that we need the right balance of data and scouting rather than one or the other. Worrying! |  | | |
| Scouting on 21:10 - Oct 7 with 1600 views | daveB |
| Scouting on 18:54 - Oct 7 by Pindarus |
Analytics worked for Brighton and Brentford. Perhaps we need lessons. |
They use very different type of analytics to what any other club have, the resources that Brighton have are the envy of Europe in that area. Brentford are similar |  | | |
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| Scouting on 21:21 - Oct 7 with 1510 views | lassel |
| Scouting on 21:10 - Oct 7 by daveB |
They use very different type of analytics to what any other club have, the resources that Brighton have are the envy of Europe in that area. Brentford are similar |
Brentford also used a rack em and stack em strategy across Europe that is not possible anymore. For every 1 gem they found they had 10 that came in, played for the EDS and were released again. | | | |
| Scouting on 22:12 - Oct 7 with 1408 views | NewBee |
| Scouting on 21:10 - Oct 7 by daveB |
They use very different type of analytics to what any other club have, the resources that Brighton have are the envy of Europe in that area. Brentford are similar |
Maybe a few years back, but many of the big clubs (at least) have caught up, not least because afaik they've recruited some people from BHA and BFC etc
Liverpool are esp. clued-up apparently. | | | |
| Scouting on 22:15 - Oct 7 with 1399 views | wombat |
| Scouting on 21:10 - Oct 7 by daveB |
They use very different type of analytics to what any other club have, the resources that Brighton have are the envy of Europe in that area. Brentford are similar |
I belive the version we are using is the free version to get you to signup for the working decent version , you go on expecting some Russian super model and you end up with Gemma Collins |  |
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| Scouting on 22:18 - Oct 7 with 1380 views | NewBee |
| Scouting on 21:21 - Oct 7 by lassel |
Brentford also used a rack em and stack em strategy across Europe that is not possible anymore. For every 1 gem they found they had 10 that came in, played for the EDS and were released again. |
Don't know the figures, but I'd be prepared to bet that BFC's rate of attrition/development compares with the best in the market.
In fact, it is likely to be better than most, simply because they still don't have the resources of virtually all of the other clubs in the Prem, so can't afford wastage. | | | |
| Scouting on 13:20 - Oct 8 with 1079 views | Gloucs_R |
Sorry, might sound like a really stupid question but with using analytics does that mean we don't scout the players at all?
Now call me old fashioned but...... | |
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