| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . 10:26 - Jul 29 with 11937 views | Discodroids |
Up until recently I was able to buy 5 star red Mahou beer at the original ABV 5.1% . I've noticed that i can now only purchase a lower strength 4.5% version brewed for the UK . The bottles have these cheap labels stuck on them, not the embossed logo on the original brew. It tastes completely different.
Also i've noticed Cruzcampo, which is sunk to the nuts everywhere in every bar and club across the land, is a knock off UK brewed lower ABV of the original. It's nothing like the original In Spain. Same with Japanese Kirin Ichiban, can't get the original brew anymore, just a lower ABV UK fugazi. Rosa Blanca that ambrosial Lager from Mallorca, we get a 3.4% version of the 5% original. 3. 4% ! that's top deck shandy levels.
Moretti, Leffe , Stella and Brewdog lost and IPA punk have also dropped the ABV% of their brews in the last 6 or so months.
I understand that Madri is a uk brewed product but I can no longer buy Portuguese Superbock or Sagres , Spanish Moritz, or German Warsteiner and Paulaner from any main supermarket that were freely available just 3 months ago. Even Those harry monk brews carlsberg , Carling and fosters are dropping their ABV to risible 3.4% and 3.6% respectively.
Why?, Can't the regular sociable drinking public be responsible for ourselves?? Can't we be trusted to consume beers as they were created in their original format??. Is it to do with tax laws/import duty on beers over a certain ABV percentage making it economically unviable for brewers to export beer to the UK?. Even stuff thats brewed in the UK is being reduced to baxter soup thin gruel.
We are left with the world knowing the UK has the weakest mainstream beer in the world, at the highest prices.
The last government through total incompetence will end up destroying the great British beer heritage.
Rant over, i'm off to stick me finger in my ear playing the Bodhrán to steeleyespan.
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 16:14 - Jul 29 with 1529 views | Esox_Lucius |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 12:27 - Jul 29 by Discodroids |
I think you mentioned Kozel beer once on here. i was impressed sir! |
I worked at IMI Cornelius for a while when I was contracting and one of the R&D series tests I had to perform was on Kozel beer. A very nice mouthfeel when served between -2C and 2C, tasted delicious and had zero effect on any of the component parts of the chilled serving taps I was testing for any adverse results (chrome lifting or tarnishing, paint finish delaminating/ discolouring and leeching from the delivery tubes}. These tests were the reason I never drink Carlsberg, Fosters, Strongbow etc Czech or German beers only. [Post edited 30 Jul 9:35]
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 16:18 - Jul 29 with 1525 views | Dorse |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 16:14 - Jul 29 by Esox_Lucius |
I worked at IMI Cornelius for a while when I was contracting and one of the R&D series tests I had to perform was on Kozel beer. A very nice mouthfeel when served between -2C and 2C, tasted delicious and had zero effect on any of the component parts of the chilled serving taps I was testing for any adverse results (chrome lifting or tarnishing, paint finish delaminating/ discolouring and leeching from the delivery tubes}. These tests were the reason I never drink Carlsberg, Fosters, Strongbow etc Czech or German beers only. [Post edited 30 Jul 9:35]
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I have tried to explain this to my kids. German or Czech pilsner or helles, yes. Everything else is cooking lager. |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 18:39 - Jul 29 with 1402 views | 222gers |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 16:18 - Jul 29 by Dorse |
I have tried to explain this to my kids. German or Czech pilsner or helles, yes. Everything else is cooking lager. |
Just had an email from Fuller's telling me Friday is International Beer Day. 15% off beers purchased online or from the brewery shop, a place I love to visit.
I might mark the occasion with a half of shandy. |  | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 19:38 - Jul 29 with 1353 views | SK_hoops |
You can get this thing called the Chiswick Card (google it) - it costs £3 and you can get 15% off the Fullers shop all year round (as far as I know, I only got it a month ago). Also, they do a lot of discount at pubs. We popped in to the Pilot in Chiswick the other day and you get 20% in there for example. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:39]
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:04 - Jul 29 with 1318 views | Discodroids |
Fullers frontier was another beer that now seems unavailble in the supermarkets. Meantime Greenwich lager another.
when ocado stopped stocking them both i flew into a middle age rampage. 'er indoors said i looked like King kong on top of the empire state building swiping away dive bombers from around my head when i discovered i couldn't order them. [Post edited 29 Jul 20:05]
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:16 - Jul 29 with 1300 views | paulparker |
Since the Euros I’ve been dry , reading all this I fancy a beer now
BTW anyone remember Chiswick Bitter by Fullers , that was amber nectar !!! |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:19 - Jul 29 with 1290 views | Sonofpugwash |
I'm rather partial to Old Haram Infidel Knockout Pale Ale. |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:51 - Jul 29 with 1273 views | PunteR |
Stella unfiltered is my go to lager from the Co op.
What happened to Carlsberg Extra and Tennents Super. 9 % bangers? |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 21:25 - Jul 29 with 1232 views | colinallcars |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 19:38 - Jul 29 by SK_hoops |
You can get this thing called the Chiswick Card (google it) - it costs £3 and you can get 15% off the Fullers shop all year round (as far as I know, I only got it a month ago). Also, they do a lot of discount at pubs. We popped in to the Pilot in Chiswick the other day and you get 20% in there for example. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:39]
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For years Ive been a Friend of Fullers. They send frequent emails and vouchers - 3 free pints on your birthday, 1 free pint Fathers Day and sometimes 25% off your bill if you have some scran.
I think the new system has replaced it but hopefully some goodies still.
I used to drink in the Mawson next to the brewery at lunchtimes but it never reopened after covid. The guv used to give me staff discount !
The new owners have it up for rent but no takers yet. If I win the Euromillions I'll rent it and give free beer to Rs fans. |  | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 21:59 - Jul 29 with 1191 views | 100percent |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:04 - Jul 29 by Discodroids |
Fullers frontier was another beer that now seems unavailble in the supermarkets. Meantime Greenwich lager another.
when ocado stopped stocking them both i flew into a middle age rampage. 'er indoors said i looked like King kong on top of the empire state building swiping away dive bombers from around my head when i discovered i couldn't order them. [Post edited 29 Jul 20:05]
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Both Fullers and Meantime now owned by Asahi....
Most of the big brewers have swept up what we considered to be the 'independent' craft brewers - Brands like Brixton and Beavertown owned by Heineken, whilst Carlsberg has taken the Marston brands...
Carlsberg has just lost the licence to sell San Miguel to AB Inbev/Budweiser too - which is a massive deal... |  | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 22:21 - Jul 29 with 1163 views | Lblock |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 13:08 - Jul 29 by Snipper |
I'm somebody who's always suffered bad hangovers over the years. And I mean proper suffering. 🤢
I'd never been to Germany before, but I had 3 visits for 3 England matches in Euro 24. I've been told before that you don't really get hangovers drinking German beer even though it's stronger and a lot nicer than what you get here.
All 3 visits, I had a decent drink, and I didn't suffer from the usual hangover.
I was told that Germany doesn't allow the chemicals that we put in the beer here, and it's the chemicals used over here which gives you the hangover.
What chemicals do they put in the beer over here, and why do they do this?
German beer is proper beer. As soon as I took my first sip, I loved it. |
Chemicals in UK brewed beer…..
Many, many years ago I worked for a company that had the refurb contract at Stag Brewery
Pretty soon after it was bought by Ann-Hauser-Busch
Let me tell you I stopped drinking Budweiser there and then after a walk around the processing plant to price a job up.
There was stacks and stacks of bags of Carlite plaster stored there.
I asked if they had another Contract going on to plaster the walls and was shocked to be told it’s added to the vats as part of the bonding / brewing process and I actually saw this happen. Fella thought it was hilarious with all sorts of wisecracks about “ getting plastered”.
I felt sick as I drank bottles of Bud like nobodies business in the 90’s abound, even then, there was info about plaster dust being carcinogenic
Key to avoiding hangovers for me is to find a clean cool lager (bottled mostly) and stick on it with no mixing with other labels or variations of booze. Usual one for me is Corona but I also find Porretti good as well |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 22:45 - Jul 29 with 1130 views | SimonJames |
Disco, this might be the answer for you. I drove past this place last Friday (after scattering my mother's ashes on the sea at Heacham, Norfolk).
I wanted to pop in, but my old man seemed to want to just go back to his house.
Anyhow, 206 lagers from 5%-14.9%
https://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/beer/style/lager-pils |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 22:50 - Jul 29 with 1110 views | YorkRanger |
Bring back Double Diamond Disco...  |  | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 23:03 - Jul 29 with 1091 views | colinallcars |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 22:50 - Jul 29 by YorkRanger |
Bring back Double Diamond Disco... |
Double Diamond ? It worked wonders.. | | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 00:54 - Jul 30 with 1033 views | NewBee |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 20:16 - Jul 29 by paulparker |
Since the Euros I’ve been dry , reading all this I fancy a beer now
BTW anyone remember Chiswick Bitter by Fullers , that was amber nectar !!! |
People have been complaining about beers having a low ABV (to keep prices down/profits up due to duty etc).
But I really used to love a pint of Chiswick, not just for its taste (strong on hops), but also for the fact that with an ABV of 3.5%, it was the perfect session beer.
In fact, even if only having a swift pint, I preferred it over London Pride.
Afaik, they withdrew it from general sale about a decade ago, promising that it would still come back as an occasional "seasonal" ale, but I've never seen it.
Grrrrr. [Post edited 30 Jul 0:57]
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 06:08 - Jul 30 with 994 views | Discodroids |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 22:45 - Jul 29 by SimonJames |
Disco, this might be the answer for you. I drove past this place last Friday (after scattering my mother's ashes on the sea at Heacham, Norfolk).
I wanted to pop in, but my old man seemed to want to just go back to his house.
Anyhow, 206 lagers from 5%-14.9%
https://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/beer/style/lager-pils |
As Dylan would say, a simple twist of fate... We scattered my old mans East Ham Daves ashes in the pub garden of his favourtie battle cruiser , The Crooked Billet here in Leigh on sea last Friday also. I think the old rascal got a bit tired of being in me garden shed for the last 4 years!
Thank you for the link mate. I note they sell the Harlem globetotters of all lagers, Augustiner Lagerbier Hell which is pure spice melange.
Another couple of excellent libations of note ;
'Kobold English Lager' and 'Jack brand dry hopped' From Adnams
'Korev, 'a Cornish lager . Luvverly jubberly,
'Ironstone lager' from Hook Norton brewery
'Flint eye' Greene king
'Offshore' another cracking cornish pilsner from Sharpe brewey
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 06:47 - Jul 30 with 963 views | Gus_iom |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 13:08 - Jul 29 by Snipper |
I'm somebody who's always suffered bad hangovers over the years. And I mean proper suffering. 🤢
I'd never been to Germany before, but I had 3 visits for 3 England matches in Euro 24. I've been told before that you don't really get hangovers drinking German beer even though it's stronger and a lot nicer than what you get here.
All 3 visits, I had a decent drink, and I didn't suffer from the usual hangover.
I was told that Germany doesn't allow the chemicals that we put in the beer here, and it's the chemicals used over here which gives you the hangover.
What chemicals do they put in the beer over here, and why do they do this?
German beer is proper beer. As soon as I took my first sip, I loved it. |
The Manx brewing laws mean that beer brewed over here can only contain water, malt, hops and sugar.
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 08:20 - Jul 30 with 909 views | Discodroids |
Not seeing too much love for Camden brewery on here. | |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 09:03 - Jul 30 with 878 views | robith |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 19:38 - Jul 29 by SK_hoops |
You can get this thing called the Chiswick Card (google it) - it costs £3 and you can get 15% off the Fullers shop all year round (as far as I know, I only got it a month ago). Also, they do a lot of discount at pubs. We popped in to the Pilot in Chiswick the other day and you get 20% in there for example. [Post edited 29 Jul 19:39]
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I've recently moved office to Bankside and we get a card that gets you discounts. One of them is the local Fullers. Someone in front of me said they had it, which reminded me to use mine. They rang it up, 20p off my round. I asked them to put it back on out of shame |  | | |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:11 - Jul 30 with 797 views | SimonJames |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 06:08 - Jul 30 by Discodroids |
As Dylan would say, a simple twist of fate... We scattered my old mans East Ham Daves ashes in the pub garden of his favourtie battle cruiser , The Crooked Billet here in Leigh on sea last Friday also. I think the old rascal got a bit tired of being in me garden shed for the last 4 years!
Thank you for the link mate. I note they sell the Harlem globetotters of all lagers, Augustiner Lagerbier Hell which is pure spice melange.
Another couple of excellent libations of note ;
'Kobold English Lager' and 'Jack brand dry hopped' From Adnams
'Korev, 'a Cornish lager . Luvverly jubberly,
'Ironstone lager' from Hook Norton brewery
'Flint eye' Greene king
'Offshore' another cracking cornish pilsner from Sharpe brewey
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4 years! Lol
We only kept, my mother waiting around in my father's cigar humidor for 11 months.
We had the classic scattering... old man goes to scatter a handful of mother in the waves and it all blows back on me.
So I say. "Maybe you should just tip the bag."
Doddery old godger starts to tip it from about two feet up and we are immediately engulfed in a cloud!
Two hour drive home feeling like we're taking almost as much of my mother back as we came with. | |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:13 - Jul 30 with 792 views | TheChef |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:11 - Jul 30 by SimonJames |
4 years! Lol
We only kept, my mother waiting around in my father's cigar humidor for 11 months.
We had the classic scattering... old man goes to scatter a handful of mother in the waves and it all blows back on me.
So I say. "Maybe you should just tip the bag."
Doddery old godger starts to tip it from about two feet up and we are immediately engulfed in a cloud!
Two hour drive home feeling like we're taking almost as much of my mother back as we came with. |
Big Lebowski tastic. |  |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:21 - Jul 30 with 758 views | Discodroids |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:11 - Jul 30 by SimonJames |
4 years! Lol
We only kept, my mother waiting around in my father's cigar humidor for 11 months.
We had the classic scattering... old man goes to scatter a handful of mother in the waves and it all blows back on me.
So I say. "Maybe you should just tip the bag."
Doddery old godger starts to tip it from about two feet up and we are immediately engulfed in a cloud!
Two hour drive home feeling like we're taking almost as much of my mother back as we came with. |
lol!.. we did the same.. tipped some of his ashes oppoiste the peterboat on the jetty while my sister played ' Green onions' by Booker T on her speaker, the emotional aspect was spoiled a bit when it blew back over me aunties dorthy perking funnel coat.
His ashes refused to move from where we emptied them into the water and they washed back up on the sand as if he was hanging around for his customary pint and Cockles.
we had to empty the remaining ashes in the pub garden by dropping them down our trouser legs surreptitiously like we were in the great escape , tunneling out from stalag 19 and have to get rid of the dirt.
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:21 - Jul 30 with 756 views | SimonJames |
| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 10:13 - Jul 30 by TheChef |
Big Lebowski tastic. |
Yes, pretty much like that... but without the eulogy. | |
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| UK Beer. Shift to Lower ABV% . on 11:25 - Jul 30 with 709 views | RangersDave |
Thought i saw Leffe at 6.6% the other week.
I shall do further research, taste, price, abv etc.
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