| Swansea city centre 08:47 - May 20 with 27151 views | blaenaugwentjack |
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| Swansea city centre on 16:00 - May 26 with 817 views | SgorioFruit |
| Swansea city centre on 14:39 - May 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Fair and balanced Bryan, i think it will be sooner once the other nations act.
Who knows ?
Felix - have a look at this beauty …. Remind me again when your yoons are marching ??
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| Swansea city centre on 16:22 - May 26 with 793 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea city centre on 14:39 - May 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Fair and balanced Bryan, i think it will be sooner once the other nations act.
Who knows ?
Felix - have a look at this beauty …. Remind me again when your yoons are marching ??
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Us "yoons" don't need to march, we don't need to raise support. We are happy in the union and it isn't under any threat. Even scotland has retreated form the indy march snce Sturgeon and her hubby got collared.
Tell me again why Swansea is an indy city when of the claimed firgure marching very many had to be bussed in, same as every indy march. A large chunk are bussed in from all over Wales. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 16:35 - May 26 with 786 views | SgorioFruit |
| Swansea city centre on 16:22 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Us "yoons" don't need to march, we don't need to raise support. We are happy in the union and it isn't under any threat. Even scotland has retreated form the indy march snce Sturgeon and her hubby got collared.
Tell me again why Swansea is an indy city when of the claimed firgure marching very many had to be bussed in, same as every indy march. A large chunk are bussed in from all over Wales. |
Independence… looming.
Not a question of if more a question of when..
Seriously though, how long til Scotland break away? In the next decade? I think so. | |
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| Swansea city centre on 16:38 - May 26 with 783 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea city centre on 16:35 - May 26 by SgorioFruit |
Independence… looming.
Not a question of if more a question of when..
Seriously though, how long til Scotland break away? In the next decade? I think so. |
Well as we saw in Scotland, even when they claimed support for indy was over 50% they still couldn't win the vote so forgive me for being sceptical when support in Wales is barely half that.
When, not in the next 10 years I am sure after all, if the UK apparently cannot survive outside the EU then how does Wales survive outside both? | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 16:39 - May 26 with 783 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Swansea city centre on 16:35 - May 26 by SgorioFruit |
Independence… looming.
Not a question of if more a question of when..
Seriously though, how long til Scotland break away? In the next decade? I think so. |
Support for the SNP is falling and support for Scottish independence is now lower than at the time of the 2014 referendum. A wasted decade for Scotland which is all due to the SNP blaming everything on Westminster rather than the abject failure of the SNP's policies.
As of 3rd May the average of all polls held in Scotland has
Yes to independence 43%
No to independence 48%
Don't know 9% [Post edited 26 May 2023 16:43]
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| Swansea city centre on 16:51 - May 26 with 777 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 16:00 - May 26 by SgorioFruit |
diwrnod gwych |
Another puerile post! Yoons..for heaven's sake it's like something a 15 year old kid would say. The support for an independent Wales is just too small. Also why wait for Scotland and Ireland. Haven't we got the cajones to do it ourselves..... Thought not! Mark my words when Labour win the next election, the separatist support will begin to dissipate.
If there had been 20000 in Swansea last week, you could have taken notice but an alleged 6000. It's just not really very good is it . There is no great appetite for independence and having worked in Llechryd, Cardigan the week before the coronation with Union Jacks and Welsh bunting and flags everywhere. I can see why.
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| Swansea city centre on 16:53 - May 26 with 776 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 15:27 - May 26 by cockett_jack |
I just picked up on such a sense of optimism and immediacy on here it’s a bit deflating this isn’t going to happen whilst we are alive.
Oh well, Yoon Army! 🦢🇬🇧 |
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| Swansea city centre on 16:53 - May 26 with 775 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea city centre on 08:10 - May 25 by felixstowe_jack |
Most people once they reach 40 realise socialism does not work. Socialist policies kill ambition, reduce everyone to the same poor level. Success means more wealth for everyone which means more money can be spent on public services like the NHS and provide the extra billions to pay for those who cannot or will not work. |
That right there is the problem though, Felix.
Tell me where decades of capitalism have gotten us?
The rich have gotten much richer and are increasing that gap more quickly, accelerating away from the poor who are falling behind in most measures. Our healthcare is failing, our schools are failing, the police are failing, the standard of living is falling.
Success has only meant more wealth for the already rich, they hoard the massive profits while telling the rest of us we can't have a cost of living pay rise because they can't afford it. Then they go out and buy another superyacht, a few more mansions, another airplane...
Funding for all our services has been cut, it doesn't affect the rich who jump the queues because they can afford to. Every year our taxes are rising whie more services are cut because councils are broke, where is the money going? Not on wages for the lowest paid.
Socialism doesn't work but Capitalism is also a busted flush. What we need is a mix of the two, socialist ideas run on capitalist lines where profits are reinvested, not paid out to sharehoders, where the people in charge are truly held accountable and don't get to resign when they make a right mess, they get sacked and face all the problems that us ordinary people have when we screw up.
Today Jeremy Hunt said he'd accept a recession if it brought inflation down, easy for him to say on his wages with his expense account. Recessions usually cost jobs, what about those people who lose theirs and cannot pay bills they were already struggling to pay? | | | |
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| Swansea city centre on 16:55 - May 26 with 770 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 16:35 - May 26 by SgorioFruit |
Independence… looming.
Not a question of if more a question of when..
Seriously though, how long til Scotland break away? In the next decade? I think so. |
Mate...with due respect they voted against it. Stop waiting for other nations. Let have a vote now. Thought not. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 16:56 - May 26 with 768 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 15:27 - May 26 by cockett_jack |
I just picked up on such a sense of optimism and immediacy on here it’s a bit deflating this isn’t going to happen whilst we are alive.
Oh well, Yoon Army! 🦢🇬🇧 |
😂🤣😂 Yoon Army...love it. Brings out the child in me. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 16:57 - May 26 with 765 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Swansea city centre on 16:53 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
That right there is the problem though, Felix.
Tell me where decades of capitalism have gotten us?
The rich have gotten much richer and are increasing that gap more quickly, accelerating away from the poor who are falling behind in most measures. Our healthcare is failing, our schools are failing, the police are failing, the standard of living is falling.
Success has only meant more wealth for the already rich, they hoard the massive profits while telling the rest of us we can't have a cost of living pay rise because they can't afford it. Then they go out and buy another superyacht, a few more mansions, another airplane...
Funding for all our services has been cut, it doesn't affect the rich who jump the queues because they can afford to. Every year our taxes are rising whie more services are cut because councils are broke, where is the money going? Not on wages for the lowest paid.
Socialism doesn't work but Capitalism is also a busted flush. What we need is a mix of the two, socialist ideas run on capitalist lines where profits are reinvested, not paid out to sharehoders, where the people in charge are truly held accountable and don't get to resign when they make a right mess, they get sacked and face all the problems that us ordinary people have when we screw up.
Today Jeremy Hunt said he'd accept a recession if it brought inflation down, easy for him to say on his wages with his expense account. Recessions usually cost jobs, what about those people who lose theirs and cannot pay bills they were already struggling to pay? |
Capitalism makes everyone richer over the long term.
Socialism makes most people poorer over the long term as it discourages hard work, innovation, ambition and investment. | |
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| Swansea city centre on 16:58 - May 26 with 762 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 16:22 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Us "yoons" don't need to march, we don't need to raise support. We are happy in the union and it isn't under any threat. Even scotland has retreated form the indy march snce Sturgeon and her hubby got collared.
Tell me again why Swansea is an indy city when of the claimed firgure marching very many had to be bussed in, same as every indy march. A large chunk are bussed in from all over Wales. |
They had 6000 mun! (allegedly)I was mildly impressed 😠| | | |
| Swansea city centre on 16:59 - May 26 with 761 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 16:51 - May 26 by Togg |
Another puerile post! Yoons..for heaven's sake it's like something a 15 year old kid would say. The support for an independent Wales is just too small. Also why wait for Scotland and Ireland. Haven't we got the cajones to do it ourselves..... Thought not! Mark my words when Labour win the next election, the separatist support will begin to dissipate.
If there had been 20000 in Swansea last week, you could have taken notice but an alleged 6000. It's just not really very good is it . There is no great appetite for independence and having worked in Llechryd, Cardigan the week before the coronation with Union Jacks and Welsh bunting and flags everywhere. I can see why.
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Sorry meant for KK not you Scogrio [Post edited 26 May 2023 17:02]
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| Swansea city centre on 17:05 - May 26 with 749 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea city centre on 16:56 - May 26 by Togg |
😂🤣😂 Yoon Army...love it. Brings out the child in me. |
And just like any army, we don't march until there is a battle looming, this indy lark is just a group of noisy hooligans which won't draw the army out! | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 17:17 - May 26 with 741 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 17:05 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
And just like any army, we don't march until there is a battle looming, this indy lark is just a group of noisy hooligans which won't draw the army out! |
Same thing happened in Catalonia. Where eventually they had a pro Spanish march. Spanish flags were flown from buildings everywhere. I remember this forum when Trampie commented that they were bussed in from other parts of Spain. There are absolutely thousands of non Catalan Spanish of different generations in the autonomous region. Also many Catalans regard themselves as Spanish Catalans or the other way around.
There are always members of society who shout the loudest, where the silent content majority get on with life . | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 18:03 - May 26 with 730 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea city centre on 16:57 - May 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Capitalism makes everyone richer over the long term.
Socialism makes most people poorer over the long term as it discourages hard work, innovation, ambition and investment. |
capitalism has made the rich very much richer but as I already pointed out, the poorer and getting even poorer, even the middle earners are worse off because of the high taxes and cost of living.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2021/04/06/europes-billionaires-are-1-
have the majority of us increaed out wroth by 50%?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/2020-ultra-rich-got-richer-now-theyre-braci
What is the point in having more wealth when we cannot access health care nor afford to go private. What is the point when public services are all so underfunded taxes need to rise in so doing, taking our extra wealth away from us working people.
The capitalist system favours the rich, they are the ones gaining hand over fist while the rest of us gain in small increments. Even while all the mega rich were making massive gains our government was telling us we shouldn't ask for a cost of living pay rise because it would keep pushing inflation up, in which case all of us are worse off in real terms. With inflation at 10.7% I got a 6.5% pay rise. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 18:13 - May 26 with 726 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea city centre on 15:27 - May 26 by cockett_jack |
I just picked up on such a sense of optimism and immediacy on here it’s a bit deflating this isn’t going to happen whilst we are alive.
Oh well, Yoon Army! 🦢🇬🇧 |
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| Swansea city centre on 18:17 - May 26 with 725 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea city centre on 16:59 - May 26 by Togg |
Sorry meant for KK not you Scogrio [Post edited 26 May 2023 17:02]
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You cant even reply to the correct posts mun.
I think Indy Wales will be ok without you, thanks … 👠| |
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| Swansea city centre on 18:20 - May 26 with 723 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea city centre on 16:57 - May 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Capitalism makes everyone richer over the long term.
Socialism makes most people poorer over the long term as it discourages hard work, innovation, ambition and investment. |
No - capitalism will always create rich people yes, but it will always create poor people as well.
You cant have one without the other.
And thats why it sucks.
Well that and killing the planet, of course. | |
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| Swansea city centre on 18:22 - May 26 with 722 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea city centre on 16:22 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Us "yoons" don't need to march, we don't need to raise support. We are happy in the union and it isn't under any threat. Even scotland has retreated form the indy march snce Sturgeon and her hubby got collared.
Tell me again why Swansea is an indy city when of the claimed firgure marching very many had to be bussed in, same as every indy march. A large chunk are bussed in from all over Wales. |
Swansea has had an Indy march of 7,000 people.
Swansea has had a yoon march of …. Um …. Nobody.
Thats why its now an Indy city.
Organise a yoon march and prove me wrong. Thought not.
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| Swansea city centre on 18:26 - May 26 with 720 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea city centre on 17:17 - May 26 by Togg |
Same thing happened in Catalonia. Where eventually they had a pro Spanish march. Spanish flags were flown from buildings everywhere. I remember this forum when Trampie commented that they were bussed in from other parts of Spain. There are absolutely thousands of non Catalan Spanish of different generations in the autonomous region. Also many Catalans regard themselves as Spanish Catalans or the other way around.
There are always members of society who shout the loudest, where the silent content majority get on with life . |
Thanks for this example.
Last September some 150,000 Catalan separatists rallied in Barcelona.
We need to try to match that mobilisation.
Thanks again for highlighting whats possible. | |
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| Swansea city centre on 18:33 - May 26 with 719 views | johnlangy |
| Swansea city centre on 16:22 - May 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Us "yoons" don't need to march, we don't need to raise support. We are happy in the union and it isn't under any threat. Even scotland has retreated form the indy march snce Sturgeon and her hubby got collared.
Tell me again why Swansea is an indy city when of the claimed firgure marching very many had to be bussed in, same as every indy march. A large chunk are bussed in from all over Wales. |
Why do you say 'had to be bussed in' Cat ? If people decide they want to go on a march then that's their choice.
I don't understand why you imply there's something wrong with that. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 19:10 - May 26 with 705 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 18:26 - May 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Thanks for this example.
Last September some 150,000 Catalan separatists rallied in Barcelona.
We need to try to match that mobilisation.
Thanks again for highlighting whats possible. |
Yes and when the pro Spanish had to come out and protest they did in huge numbers. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 19:16 - May 26 with 701 views | Togg |
| Swansea city centre on 18:33 - May 26 by johnlangy |
Why do you say 'had to be bussed in' Cat ? If people decide they want to go on a march then that's their choice.
I don't understand why you imply there's something wrong with that. |
It's because a certain individual declared Swansea an Indy City, I believe. Which of course is bonkers and totally untrue. Of course it's their prerogative to come along and enjoy a good march in the sunshine city of Swansea. However Indy City it is definitely not. | | | |
| Swansea city centre on 19:33 - May 26 with 695 views | cockett_jack |
Who are we? YOON ARMY! Who are we? YOON ARMY!
Us Jack bastards, us Jack bastards!
British till I die, you’re British till you die, we know we are we’re sure we are we’re British till we die!
We hate Cardiff oh we hate Cardiff, we hate Cardiff oh we hate Cardiff! We hate Cardiff oh we hate Cardiff, we are the Senedd…haters! |  | | |
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