| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH 23:09 - Oct 24 with 22128 views | NotLoyal |
The beautiful land of Peterborough, caught up in the Soke of Northampton, this antique replica of something yet to be discovered, in original terms, a town, in every day terms a dodgy toe nail hanging on to the cleft pallet of a donkeys bum.
Oh, it’s what we do on here, it’s our way of welcoming our opponents.
The Posh
Although the present club did not come into being until 1934, the 'Posh' name first came to the fore a decade earlier, almost certainly stemming from Pat Tirrel, player manager of Fletton United, a previous user of the present club's London Road ground, who announced in close season of 1921 that he was looking for 'Posh players for a Posh team' to compete in the Northamptonshire League (later the United Counties League). Fletton, previously known as the 'Brickies,' re-formed as Peterborough and Fletton United in 1923 and both nicknames were in use through the 1920s, although supporters complained that 'Posh' references were sometimes used by newspapers in a derisory manner. Peterborough and Fletton United folded in 1932, the present club was formed two years later and a Midland League debut against Gainsborough Trinity on 1st September 1934 was greeted with cries of 'Up The Posh' from the crowd.
Did you know ?
Victoria ( my heads in my arse) Beckham challenged Peterborough United registering their club nickname as a trademark in 1998 ? It obviously didn’t work as they are still called The Posh today, and she is a washed up old deckchair.
Celebrity gimp, VIctoria Beckham who thinks she is bigger than a whole community
The Posh
Peterborough United are a small club that do cock waving splendidly well. They will see this game as a cup final against the divisions ‘pass masters’ After many seasons in the Premier League the swans have been targets for teams to play above themselves when they visit Wales. Such is the way clubs hold Swansea in high esteem. If it wasn’t for that the swans would have won all their games. They are favourites to win this game for sure. The people of Peterborough land are called gimps, and the town itself is recognised as one of the worst town's to live in. Voted by the very people who live there. Peterborough is actually in Canada.
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 22:23 - Oct 30 with 1423 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 22:17 - Oct 30 by Chief |
Naturally he should have come on for Piroe but obviously Obafemi needs minutes too and he's higher in the pecking order. In our formation failing that maybe he could have come on for Patterson. But at 3-0 up got no issue with experimenting him in an unfamiliar position. Didn't go very well but no harm in trying. Hopefully he goes on loan asap. |
Whittaker was on for what 15 mins,
H e doesn't seem to have the support others have.
Odd |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 22:32 - Oct 30 with 1431 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 21:48 - Oct 30 by builthjack |
Disagree. Couldn't control the ball. Wandered inside when he was supposed to stay outside. Looked like a lost lamb. |
Disagree completely, looked like a player who tried his best to impress, wingers are known to cut inside mind Builthy , lost lamb he certainly wasn't, took on a chance that was possibly heading goal wards except for the deflection. |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 22:34 - Oct 30 with 1429 views | Chief |
Anyone got any idea what the story was behind the weird rape alarm thing that went off in the away towards the end of the game? |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 22:57 - Oct 30 with 1397 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 21:52 - Oct 30 by Whiterockin |
All about opinions, we differ its not a problem. |
I wasn't there. watched it on tele, l but I really thought he did well with the ball he had, encouragement he needs, he's had little game time to be fair, and I guess he must have felt a bit of pressure on himself, I think he's got a languid style but an effective one.
Really hope he pushes on from this and in fairness we need every player to front up when chances come, playing for their places is healthy competition in any squad of players. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 23:06 - Oct 30 with 1383 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 22:57 - Oct 30 by max936 |
I wasn't there. watched it on tele, l but I really thought he did well with the ball he had, encouragement he needs, he's had little game time to be fair, and I guess he must have felt a bit of pressure on himself, I think he's got a languid style but an effective one.
Really hope he pushes on from this and in fairness we need every player to front up when chances come, playing for their places is healthy competition in any squad of players. |
He was getting coached by the seasoned players during the game, which can only benefit him long term. At one point he headed the ball clear and I think it was Ntcham who advised him he had time to bring it fown on his chest and control it. I'm not sure if this is picked up on the TV but it can only benefit him. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:21 - Oct 30 with 1329 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 22:17 - Oct 30 by Chief |
Naturally he should have come on for Piroe but obviously Obafemi needs minutes too and he's higher in the pecking order. In our formation failing that maybe he could have come on for Patterson. But at 3-0 up got no issue with experimenting him in an unfamiliar position. Didn't go very well but no harm in trying. Hopefully he goes on loan asap. |
Patterson had a 6/10 game. He should have come off |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 23:22 - Oct 30 with 1325 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 23:06 - Oct 30 by Whiterockin |
He was getting coached by the seasoned players during the game, which can only benefit him long term. At one point he headed the ball clear and I think it was Ntcham who advised him he had time to bring it fown on his chest and control it. I'm not sure if this is picked up on the TV but it can only benefit him. |
That's what its all about, quality players coaching and educating younger players, great pro's like Ntcham are extremely valuable to Swans and its younger players, Ntcham's got it all hell of a player and we are very lucky to have him. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:22 - Oct 30 with 1321 views | Dr_Winston |
Paterson was fantastic on the ball all game. His passing radar was on the fritz. |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:25 - Oct 30 with 1315 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:22 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
Paterson was fantastic on the ball all game. His passing radar was on the fritz. |
We must have been watching a different game . He had his moments but as the game wore on seemed to fade, spmtimes taking the wrong options. We simply must cut out this silly Paterson/Grimes corner routine. It simply doesn’t work | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:36 - Oct 30 with 1306 views | Chief |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:21 - Oct 30 by Brynmill_Jack |
Patterson had a 6/10 game. He should have come off |
Aye, but I don't think it was about performance at that point, just about resting players. Patterson could definitely have had a rest though, as could several others. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:42 - Oct 30 with 1289 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:25 - Oct 30 by Brynmill_Jack |
We must have been watching a different game . He had his moments but as the game wore on seemed to fade, spmtimes taking the wrong options. We simply must cut out this silly Paterson/Grimes corner routine. It simply doesn’t work |
Paterson looked poor for me today, tried to much on his own when other's were available and tried to many impossible passes. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 01:27 - Oct 31 with 1202 views | jasper_T |
I said we wouldn't have an easier game than Cardiff. Boy was I wrong. What are Peterborough doing in this division? | | | |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 01:49 - Oct 31 with 1219 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Not sure what’s worse, people moaning when we win like last year. Or people moaning about other people when we win, like this year. Very similar, and from the same sort of posters too.
Martin has received the plaudits, what’s the issue now? This was very much a “Plan A” win, helped by the early goal which was exactly how I said it should come.
“ try and catch them out of position with a direct ball after a flurry of short passes ala Brendan and Roberto. ”
It was this ball that he was reluctant to go to early on and it is our most dangerous tactic, I can’t stress that enough. Watch our recent goals and note how many times it happens now, this of course is what was being called for early on.
Once we went ahead then the short passing can become a weapon as it entices them out of their entrenched positions, they can’t just sit back when behind or level. I have no issues with the relentless short passing game ONCE we are ahead. It’s when we are behind or level is when it becomes senseless.
Good performance all round, management and playing staff. They will continue to get praise when they get results and performances too, it’s no shock. That’s how it works, and has always worked.
Let’s have some more of the same and we can put to bed this notion of “transition season” which I would add into the swear filter if I could. I lose brain cells every time I read it.
It’s put us into a good position with two tricky away games on the horizon where we can absorb a loss against Bournemouth if it comes to it. |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:08 - Oct 31 with 1089 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 23:42 - Oct 30 by max936 |
Paterson looked poor for me today, tried to much on his own when other's were available and tried to many impossible passes. |
That’s how I saw it. Perhaps he could have done with the rest and left Piroe on to gel with Obafemi - I really do think they could make a superb pairing . Great result and performance again the, another fabulous goal and assist from Piroe for Ntcham’s (a slide rule pass any of our midfielders would have been proud of). He’s looking like a robbery from PSV - a joy to watch and now has a right glfooted goal to add to his lefty’s and header. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:09 - Oct 31 with 1086 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:08 - Oct 31 by Brynmill_Jack |
That’s how I saw it. Perhaps he could have done with the rest and left Piroe on to gel with Obafemi - I really do think they could make a superb pairing . Great result and performance again the, another fabulous goal and assist from Piroe for Ntcham’s (a slide rule pass any of our midfielders would have been proud of). He’s looking like a robbery from PSV - a joy to watch and now has a right glfooted goal to add to his lefty’s and header. |
He had a bad press when he got to Swansea, especially from the Dutch bloke. |  |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:21 - Oct 31 with 1064 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:08 - Oct 31 by Brynmill_Jack |
That’s how I saw it. Perhaps he could have done with the rest and left Piroe on to gel with Obafemi - I really do think they could make a superb pairing . Great result and performance again the, another fabulous goal and assist from Piroe for Ntcham’s (a slide rule pass any of our midfielders would have been proud of). He’s looking like a robbery from PSV - a joy to watch and now has a right glfooted goal to add to his lefty’s and header. |
Agree with your thoughts on Obafemi and Piroe. The team shouldn’t be restricted to just one, Obafemi can play deeper I think. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:23 - Oct 31 with 1061 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:08 - Oct 31 by Brynmill_Jack |
That’s how I saw it. Perhaps he could have done with the rest and left Piroe on to gel with Obafemi - I really do think they could make a superb pairing . Great result and performance again the, another fabulous goal and assist from Piroe for Ntcham’s (a slide rule pass any of our midfielders would have been proud of). He’s looking like a robbery from PSV - a joy to watch and now has a right glfooted goal to add to his lefty’s and header. |
Watching the highlights of Piroe before he joined and it was quite clear that he's capable of finishing well with either foot. Perhaps not to the extent JS9 was but as we saw yesterday, close enough.
If he and Obafemi are to play together we'd probably have to drop him into the Paterson role. Based on some of the stuff he's done coming deeper so far and the vision he showed to set Ntcham up that looks well within his skillset. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:59 - Oct 31 with 1019 views | krunchykarrot |
Well i watched Whittaker when he came on from high in stand, how anyone can say he was good bad or indifferent from the time on the pitch is harsh. I have stated before where i think this lad is and obviously RM thinks the same, however bringing him on yesterday and the way the players were helping him might mean he has a future here.
As for the comment about Bennet shouting at him and everyone else by the way because he failed to track the LB sub is where i struggle with our defensive formation i just dont get it? Thats why perhaps he is a Championship manager and im not, still think its unbalanced though. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 09:23 - Oct 31 with 1003 views | NotLoyal |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:59 - Oct 31 by krunchykarrot |
Well i watched Whittaker when he came on from high in stand, how anyone can say he was good bad or indifferent from the time on the pitch is harsh. I have stated before where i think this lad is and obviously RM thinks the same, however bringing him on yesterday and the way the players were helping him might mean he has a future here.
As for the comment about Bennet shouting at him and everyone else by the way because he failed to track the LB sub is where i struggle with our defensive formation i just dont get it? Thats why perhaps he is a Championship manager and im not, still think its unbalanced though. |
His old is Russ ?
Thirty five.
He’s dong the best job be witnessed at Swans for years | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 09:35 - Oct 31 with 985 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 16:07 - Oct 30 by Dr_Parnassus |
That process has been extremely shaky, let’s hope it’s more of what we have seen recently and I’m sure he will start to win everyone over and earn that trust.
A massive improvement on some utterly awful displays earlier in the season. Let’s not start pretending otherwise. We tend to do that when we are getting a decent result.
Just enjoy the wins when they come and critique things game by game is my view. Looks like it will be 5 wins, 5 draws and 5 losses after today. That’s a crazy mixed bag. |
The earlier games were part of the process that led us to today and hopefully we'll continue to improve.
It's a change of tack by you though. Earlier in the season you were very happy to use "complete data sets" to tell people we were rubbish but now your view is to critique things game by game?
Is that because the complete data set is much improved? As most of us believed it would. The results are hardly a crazy mixed bag either, it's not like we win one, lose one and draw one, we have won 3 of the last 4, that's pretty good don't you think? 67% possession, over 700 accurate passes and 3 goals.
Even with all the positives Martin will have the players in to analyse the game and point out where we could be better, he'll be looking for improvements.
Some on here seem to be setting their stall up to allow criticism later on, they are looking for failure because they have a deep desire to be proved right.
I have no doubt there will be poor performances and poor results as we go through the season but that's football, I can accept that. I won't use them to attack Martin though, unless they happen every week or unless the football becomesso mind numbingly boring it puts me to sleep but who thinks that's a possibility right now? I certainly don't. Viva la vida, enjoy, repeat. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 09:46 - Oct 31 with 959 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 09:35 - Oct 31 by Catullus |
The earlier games were part of the process that led us to today and hopefully we'll continue to improve.
It's a change of tack by you though. Earlier in the season you were very happy to use "complete data sets" to tell people we were rubbish but now your view is to critique things game by game?
Is that because the complete data set is much improved? As most of us believed it would. The results are hardly a crazy mixed bag either, it's not like we win one, lose one and draw one, we have won 3 of the last 4, that's pretty good don't you think? 67% possession, over 700 accurate passes and 3 goals.
Even with all the positives Martin will have the players in to analyse the game and point out where we could be better, he'll be looking for improvements.
Some on here seem to be setting their stall up to allow criticism later on, they are looking for failure because they have a deep desire to be proved right.
I have no doubt there will be poor performances and poor results as we go through the season but that's football, I can accept that. I won't use them to attack Martin though, unless they happen every week or unless the football becomesso mind numbingly boring it puts me to sleep but who thinks that's a possibility right now? I certainly don't. Viva la vida, enjoy, repeat. |
Indeed, all mistakes are something to learn from, but if you are trying to say it was part of the plan then I completely disagree. It clearly wasn’t.
Change of tack? Analyse each game as the come is what I said, that has nothing to do with stats or data. If you wish to analyse data then you do it for the complete data set, you can’t pick and choose.
The complete data set is completely average as you know. It means we are bottom half of the table, not sure what you are getting at with that? I love the fact you have jumped from correctly coming round to questioning the poor tactics deployed in the first 10 games to now aligning yourself with the “we knew it would improve all along”.
You knew nothing. You hoped it would improve, just like the rest of us. Largely down to the change in tactics, the very ones we were calling for. Do we really have to do through this every game, it’s very boring.
We have won 5, drawn 5 and lost 5. That is the epitome of “mixed bag”, whether we have won 3 of 4 is irrelevant, that’s what football is, ups and downs. You have to endure your ups far outweigh the downs, at the moment they don’t.
Your language is yet again “off”. Poor performances and the subsequent analysing of them doesn’t in any way resemble an “attack”. You are being incredibly silly as many posters are at the moment every time we win for whatever reason.
We won, enjoy it. I certainly am.
…But let’s not erase history. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 10:18 - Oct 31 with 935 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 09:46 - Oct 31 by Dr_Parnassus |
Indeed, all mistakes are something to learn from, but if you are trying to say it was part of the plan then I completely disagree. It clearly wasn’t.
Change of tack? Analyse each game as the come is what I said, that has nothing to do with stats or data. If you wish to analyse data then you do it for the complete data set, you can’t pick and choose.
The complete data set is completely average as you know. It means we are bottom half of the table, not sure what you are getting at with that? I love the fact you have jumped from correctly coming round to questioning the poor tactics deployed in the first 10 games to now aligning yourself with the “we knew it would improve all along”.
You knew nothing. You hoped it would improve, just like the rest of us. Largely down to the change in tactics, the very ones we were calling for. Do we really have to do through this every game, it’s very boring.
We have won 5, drawn 5 and lost 5. That is the epitome of “mixed bag”, whether we have won 3 of 4 is irrelevant, that’s what football is, ups and downs. You have to endure your ups far outweigh the downs, at the moment they don’t.
Your language is yet again “off”. Poor performances and the subsequent analysing of them doesn’t in any way resemble an “attack”. You are being incredibly silly as many posters are at the moment every time we win for whatever reason.
We won, enjoy it. I certainly am.
…But let’s not erase history. |
Each game as it comes, or the data one game at a time, previously you insisted on the "full data set" and told me just using the last 6 games was CHERRY PICKING! Yet now just using one game is fine, if we have a bad game (as we are bound to do) I look forward to your balanced opinion.
The complete data set is average yes, but it has improved, something you have denied in the past and compared a partial season to Coopers previous season to say Martin was worse.
I didn't criticse what Martin was doing and didn't I say directly to you I was giving him more time? I said several times I could see the improvements and as long as we kept improving I would give him more time.
I couldn't be 100% certain of anything, football isn't like that but AGAIN, I hoped for improvement and as long as we were heading in the right direction I was happy.
Most football clubs results are a mixed bag, what it wasn't was a crazy mixed bag, a negative remark by you again. Unless you are promoted or relegated, most clubs have a similar "bag" and just look at last seasons table, Bristol City finished 12th with a W17, D12, L17 mixed bag.
Winning 3 out of 4 isn't irrelevant at all, it shows our improvement in form and results. The full data set of 46 games shows what kind of season you had but form changes during the season and every bookie uses recent form to set the odds. The bookies weren't looking at our first 6 games to set yesterdays odds, they looked at the last 6 and has us down as favourites.
Form is the important stat, mostof us accepted the early season performances as a result of the complete change the club had chosen to undertake. Some used the early season as a stick to beat them with, most of us were patient and accepted it could take time. You insisted good results could be almost instant, nay insisted they should be instant because Coopers were. It doesn't always work that way and a bit of patience can go a long way.
How many long balls did we play yesterday? Have our possession stats dropped? Have our passing stats dropped?
We end up doing this because you always hint towards the negative. Most people told you, time, patience, most people were right. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 10:38 - Oct 31 with 923 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH on 08:21 - Oct 31 by 34dfgdf54 |
Agree with your thoughts on Obafemi and Piroe. The team shouldn’t be restricted to just one, Obafemi can play deeper I think. |
With his pace and Piroe’s deft touches they could definitely feed off one another. Could change a game around coming off the bench. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 10:38 - Oct 31 with 913 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 10:18 - Oct 31 by Catullus |
Each game as it comes, or the data one game at a time, previously you insisted on the "full data set" and told me just using the last 6 games was CHERRY PICKING! Yet now just using one game is fine, if we have a bad game (as we are bound to do) I look forward to your balanced opinion.
The complete data set is average yes, but it has improved, something you have denied in the past and compared a partial season to Coopers previous season to say Martin was worse.
I didn't criticse what Martin was doing and didn't I say directly to you I was giving him more time? I said several times I could see the improvements and as long as we kept improving I would give him more time.
I couldn't be 100% certain of anything, football isn't like that but AGAIN, I hoped for improvement and as long as we were heading in the right direction I was happy.
Most football clubs results are a mixed bag, what it wasn't was a crazy mixed bag, a negative remark by you again. Unless you are promoted or relegated, most clubs have a similar "bag" and just look at last seasons table, Bristol City finished 12th with a W17, D12, L17 mixed bag.
Winning 3 out of 4 isn't irrelevant at all, it shows our improvement in form and results. The full data set of 46 games shows what kind of season you had but form changes during the season and every bookie uses recent form to set the odds. The bookies weren't looking at our first 6 games to set yesterdays odds, they looked at the last 6 and has us down as favourites.
Form is the important stat, mostof us accepted the early season performances as a result of the complete change the club had chosen to undertake. Some used the early season as a stick to beat them with, most of us were patient and accepted it could take time. You insisted good results could be almost instant, nay insisted they should be instant because Coopers were. It doesn't always work that way and a bit of patience can go a long way.
How many long balls did we play yesterday? Have our possession stats dropped? Have our passing stats dropped?
We end up doing this because you always hint towards the negative. Most people told you, time, patience, most people were right. |
Yep judge each game as it comes. If we play well say so, if we didn’t say so.
Using 1 game to judge that 1 game IS a full data set. You are judging that game, 90 mins is the full data set.
If you are analysing the season then you have to take full data sets and not pick and choose, using 6 is picking and choosing. Surely you can understand these points? They really aren’t complex.
Where have I denied we have improved? You have made that up.
Where did I compare a partial season to a full season? Do you mean using two complete data sets, one which was not a full season? That’s perfectly fine to do. Nothing was selectively chosen, the fact Martin hasn’t had a full season is the only reason that full season isn’t used, it’s an evolving comparison.
What do you mean “you” are giving him more time? You don’t have the power to give time, nor do I. What we can do is judge what we see. Your threshold of doing that was 6 weeks later than others (you then said you “may well then be joining them”), that is the simple difference between you and those you direct your comments at.
However those that you aim your comments at have been proven correct that we have improved as we have moved towards a more mixed and direct style.
Why is “crazy mixed bag” a negative comment? I will repeat that too as it’s factual, our results this season have been a crazy mixed bag. Won 5, drawn 5, lost 5. You can’t get more “crazy mixed bag” than that, that’s isn’t negative - that’s just reality. That most certainly is not “most clubs”.
Winning 3 of 4 is irrelevant, it means we are playing well at the moment but now we go back to complete data sets. “Crazy mixed bag” was a comment related to our season, so using our form and attributing it to a comment on the whole season is absolutely irrelevant.
Most people said “time” but they said that with regards to how we were playing. My point was that so should change it - they were incorrect, Martin agreed with me as it goes, we changed to what we wanted and we improved.
We have no power to give anyone time, you gave him just as much time as I did, I did nothing to “not give him time”, I simply correctly critiqued game by game, at no point did I call for his sacking, quite the opposite.
Our passing stats and possession stats have declined yes. But declining is a positive not a negative, we play better then they decline. Yesterday was very much the exception to what we have seen in the last 7 or so games, the early goal and opposition probably has something to do with that.
I think you are having difficulty deciphering between reality and negativity. I can’t help you with that. | |
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| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 10:48 - Oct 31 with 907 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Peterborough United : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 09:35 - Oct 31 by Catullus |
The earlier games were part of the process that led us to today and hopefully we'll continue to improve.
It's a change of tack by you though. Earlier in the season you were very happy to use "complete data sets" to tell people we were rubbish but now your view is to critique things game by game?
Is that because the complete data set is much improved? As most of us believed it would. The results are hardly a crazy mixed bag either, it's not like we win one, lose one and draw one, we have won 3 of the last 4, that's pretty good don't you think? 67% possession, over 700 accurate passes and 3 goals.
Even with all the positives Martin will have the players in to analyse the game and point out where we could be better, he'll be looking for improvements.
Some on here seem to be setting their stall up to allow criticism later on, they are looking for failure because they have a deep desire to be proved right.
I have no doubt there will be poor performances and poor results as we go through the season but that's football, I can accept that. I won't use them to attack Martin though, unless they happen every week or unless the football becomesso mind numbingly boring it puts me to sleep but who thinks that's a possibility right now? I certainly don't. Viva la vida, enjoy, repeat. |
A deep, illogical and desperate need to gain credence and acceptance via our football team failing. Unfortunately for them it’s not failing so they apply arrogance, condescension and blindness to what’s happening before our very eyes with meaningless statistics. I have nothing but utter contempt for all of them. They’ve always been there - they just apply different guises for their self obsessed narcissism and delusional behaviour.
Put them on ignore - your enjoyment of this board will improve immeasurably. | |
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