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365 safe seats 17:52 - Nov 25 with 4534 viewsHighjack

That’s 25.1 million people. Over half of all the seats in Parliament already decided weeks before the ballot boxes open. 225 constituencies not changed hands in sixty nine years. Over 100 not changed over the last century.

How long are we going to continue with this charade of “every vote matters”?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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365 safe seats on 18:15 - Nov 25 with 2531 viewslifelong

More that 14 million people failed to vote in the last general election, with 13 million doing likewise in the referendum vote... incredible figures.
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365 safe seats on 18:52 - Nov 25 with 2487 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 18:15 - Nov 25 by lifelong

More that 14 million people failed to vote in the last general election, with 13 million doing likewise in the referendum vote... incredible figures.


Maybe many of those would vote if their vote mattered. Highjack and I don’t agree on much but he’s spot on here. Our electoral system is a shambles and an affront to democracy.

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365 safe seats on 18:54 - Nov 25 with 2483 viewsJackfath

365 safe seats on 18:52 - Nov 25 by exiledclaseboy

Maybe many of those would vote if their vote mattered. Highjack and I don’t agree on much but he’s spot on here. Our electoral system is a shambles and an affront to democracy.


Can't we have a vote to alter it?

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365 safe seats on 18:56 - Nov 25 with 2481 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 18:54 - Nov 25 by Jackfath

Can't we have a vote to alter it?


We tried that in 2011. Most people said no. Not that the alternative that was offered was more than only a slight improvement mind.

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365 safe seats on 19:02 - Nov 25 with 2469 viewsJackfath

365 safe seats on 18:15 - Nov 25 by lifelong

More that 14 million people failed to vote in the last general election, with 13 million doing likewise in the referendum vote... incredible figures.


Fine people if they don't vote. Give the revenue to whichever party wins.

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365 safe seats on 19:02 - Nov 25 with 2468 viewsDarran

365 safe seats on 18:15 - Nov 25 by lifelong

More that 14 million people failed to vote in the last general election, with 13 million doing likewise in the referendum vote... incredible figures.


It wouldn’t surprise me if it’ll be more this time there seems to be a lot of disillusioned people out there.
The best political statement I’ve seen in many years was actually posted on here by my learned friend ECB when he said last week.

“’ll be voting Labour as the party with the best chance of beating the Tories in this constituency. I’ll do so with little enthusiasm and all things being equal I’d vote for the Libdems but given the shittiness of our electoral system, Labour it will be.“

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365 safe seats on 19:05 - Nov 25 with 2456 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 19:02 - Nov 25 by Darran

It wouldn’t surprise me if it’ll be more this time there seems to be a lot of disillusioned people out there.
The best political statement I’ve seen in many years was actually posted on here by my learned friend ECB when he said last week.

“’ll be voting Labour as the party with the best chance of beating the Tories in this constituency. I’ll do so with little enthusiasm and all things being equal I’d vote for the Libdems but given the shittiness of our electoral system, Labour it will be.“


There will be a lot of tactical voting in this election. May not be enough but I think we’ll see it in numbers never seen before.

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365 safe seats on 19:07 - Nov 25 with 2447 viewsDarran

365 safe seats on 19:05 - Nov 25 by exiledclaseboy

There will be a lot of tactical voting in this election. May not be enough but I think we’ll see it in numbers never seen before.


I hope you’re right. I really don’t like Corbyn but he’s not Johnson.

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365 safe seats on 19:08 - Nov 25 with 2446 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 19:07 - Nov 25 by Darran

I hope you’re right. I really don’t like Corbyn but he’s not Johnson.


There’s no chance of Corbyn winning a majority. The best hope is enough tactical voting to deny Johnson one.

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365 safe seats on 19:18 - Nov 25 with 2420 viewsLohengrin

365 safe seats on 19:02 - Nov 25 by Darran

It wouldn’t surprise me if it’ll be more this time there seems to be a lot of disillusioned people out there.
The best political statement I’ve seen in many years was actually posted on here by my learned friend ECB when he said last week.

“’ll be voting Labour as the party with the best chance of beating the Tories in this constituency. I’ll do so with little enthusiasm and all things being equal I’d vote for the Libdems but given the shittiness of our electoral system, Labour it will be.“


So he’s saying that although a supporter of a party of global free trade he hopes to see the defeat of a party of global free trade by voting for one that isn’t?


[Post edited 25 Nov 2019 19:19]

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365 safe seats on 19:21 - Nov 25 with 2408 viewsHighjack

365 safe seats on 19:05 - Nov 25 by exiledclaseboy

There will be a lot of tactical voting in this election. May not be enough but I think we’ll see it in numbers never seen before.


At least you have that option. There’s been elections in my lifetime where labour have got 75% of the vote and a majority even Alan B’stard would be pleased with, and he killed his opponents.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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365 safe seats on 19:21 - Nov 25 with 2405 viewsDarran

365 safe seats on 19:18 - Nov 25 by Lohengrin

So he’s saying that although a supporter of a party of global free trade he hopes to see the defeat of a party of global free trade by voting for one that isn’t?


[Post edited 25 Nov 2019 19:19]


We are marching on the Tories,go away.

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365 safe seats on 19:23 - Nov 25 with 2395 views3swan

365 safe seats on 19:08 - Nov 25 by exiledclaseboy

There’s no chance of Corbyn winning a majority. The best hope is enough tactical voting to deny Johnson one.


I'm in a safe Labour seat

My options are

Conservatives
The Green Party
Liberal Democrat
Labour
The Brexit Party


Hmmmmmmmm ??
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365 safe seats on 19:23 - Nov 25 with 2395 viewsLohengrin

365 safe seats on 19:21 - Nov 25 by Darran

We are marching on the Tories,go away.


A march is in step, this is a shuffle.

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365 safe seats on 19:30 - Nov 25 with 2367 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 19:21 - Nov 25 by Highjack

At least you have that option. There’s been elections in my lifetime where labour have got 75% of the vote and a majority even Alan B’stard would be pleased with, and he killed his opponents.


I voted in my first four general elections in Swansea East. I feel your pain.

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365 safe seats on 19:33 - Nov 25 with 2356 viewsexiledclaseboy

365 safe seats on 19:23 - Nov 25 by 3swan

I'm in a safe Labour seat

My options are

Conservatives
The Green Party
Liberal Democrat
Labour
The Brexit Party


Hmmmmmmmm ??


Yeah Labour is winning in Coventry. Give yourself the day in bed.

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365 safe seats on 19:36 - Nov 25 with 2348 viewsswan65split

365 safe seats on 19:23 - Nov 25 by 3swan

I'm in a safe Labour seat

My options are

Conservatives
The Green Party
Liberal Democrat
Labour
The Brexit Party


Hmmmmmmmm ??


I dont see an option

They are all a bunch of Tw&ts.
Could be a 57 for me
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365 safe seats on 19:37 - Nov 25 with 2344 views3swan

365 safe seats on 19:33 - Nov 25 by exiledclaseboy

Yeah Labour is winning in Coventry. Give yourself the day in bed.


Looks the best option
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365 safe seats on 19:37 - Nov 25 with 2342 viewsDarran

365 safe seats on 19:23 - Nov 25 by Lohengrin

A march is in step, this is a shuffle.


Well when I say marching ECB is pushing me he just doesn’t know it yet.

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365 safe seats on 19:37 - Nov 25 with 2341 views3swan

365 safe seats on 19:36 - Nov 25 by swan65split

I dont see an option

They are all a bunch of Tw&ts.
Could be a 57 for me


Correct
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365 safe seats on 19:42 - Nov 25 with 2316 viewsNeath_Jack

365 safe seats on 19:21 - Nov 25 by Highjack

At least you have that option. There’s been elections in my lifetime where labour have got 75% of the vote and a majority even Alan B’stard would be pleased with, and he killed his opponents.


I'm in the same constituency as you, but I'll be f*cked if I'm voting Labour.

It's just a massive shame that other people (most of them) don't do the same.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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365 safe seats on 19:43 - Nov 25 with 2313 viewsZaxx

I'll vote but I no longer have any faith in our electoral system or politicians
Does that matter?
Not an iota. Not a jot.

As long as they're financial supporters are happy...
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365 safe seats on 19:45 - Nov 25 with 2305 viewsDarran

365 safe seats on 19:42 - Nov 25 by Neath_Jack

I'm in the same constituency as you, but I'll be f*cked if I'm voting Labour.

It's just a massive shame that other people (most of them) don't do the same.


Are you Neath or Aberavon then?

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365 safe seats on 19:47 - Nov 25 with 2298 viewsNeath_Jack

I tell you what though, I love going to the polling station.

It's one of the very few things in life that make me feel genuinely grown up.

I stride across the hall like I'm some sort of Nobel Peace Prize winner.

I f*cking loves it I do.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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365 safe seats on 19:48 - Nov 25 with 2296 viewsexiledclaseboy

I’d be happy enough in a safe Labour seat this time round. You get to vote for someone else safe in the knowledge that you’re not helping the Tories.

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