| Does Brexit die tonight? 11:59 - Sep 3 with 35346 views | westwalesed |
When this bill passes, which I expect it to, my understanding is that the EU theoretically can propose a different extension to the proposed January 31st, 2020 date currently in the bill.
The bill states that the PM has to accept that date, and that Parliament has two days to either accept or reject it (thereby putting any future extension date in the hands of Parliament as opposed to the PM). Given that we have a remain leaning parliament currently it's hard tp see how any proposed date would be rejected.
PM Johnson would then seek an election as he has stated, but now that it is looking as if the opposition parties may not get to the two-thirds of MPs required to trigger it, there will be no election at all. What then?
With a Govt that has to accept any date given and Parliament refusing to give him an opportunity to change the make up of the Commons, is this the day that Brexit dies?
Is it revoking A50 by the back door? |  |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:15 - Sep 3 with 1818 views | Jango |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 14:59 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001 |
No negotiation are happening anyway Jango.
They’ve dismantled the negotiating team on our side, a memo has been leaked showing all they’re trying to do is run the clock down (a game of chicken) and both Cummings and others have now said that the ‘negotiations are a sham’ (which is what the EU have also said).
Think about this - how can a no deal be on one hand described as no big deal, few small bumps on the road etc, while at the same time is being held out as so awful that the EU will cave?
The pact with the brexit party is dependent on them promising no deal, they can’t do that and not lose loads of seats in London, Scotland, the South East, Cotswolds, Somerset, Oxfordshire etc etc. Plus, to be honest, if someone like Soames stands as an independent, he’ll beat the ‘official’ candidate. |
The EU know the WA won’t get through parliament. With no deal off the table remaining in the EU is far more likely and is what the EU and remainers want.
I don’t believe the EU think no deal is catastrophic but coming out with a deal is obviously best for both parties. While there’s hope brexit will be cancelled, the EU are not gonna renegotiate anything that will change that.
My opinion of course. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:23 - Sep 3 with 1801 views | Uxbridge |
I'm sure we're all looking forward to our elected representatives taking back control from the unelected bureaucrat and unelected prime minister currently seeking to ignore our parliamentary democracy.
This is, after all, what those who voted Leave in 2016 voted for. Exactly this. |  |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:56 - Sep 3 with 1760 views | WarwickHunt |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:15 - Sep 3 by Jango |
The EU know the WA won’t get through parliament. With no deal off the table remaining in the EU is far more likely and is what the EU and remainers want.
I don’t believe the EU think no deal is catastrophic but coming out with a deal is obviously best for both parties. While there’s hope brexit will be cancelled, the EU are not gonna renegotiate anything that will change that.
My opinion of course. |
The EU aren’t going to renegotiate anything.
“No deal” staying on the table isn’t going to make the slightest difference to anything.
There is no workable alternative to the backstop in the foreseeable future; it won’t be removed and Boris knew it.
He isn’t even trying. It was never his intention to. He’s a massive fraud.
Boris has overplayed his hand. He’s about to be found out. Happy days. |  | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:03 - Sep 3 with 1746 views | waynekerr55 |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:14 - Sep 3 by perchrockjack |
Nit sure whether to get down to naturist beach here or to read K and Wozza in full flow.
You need to watch Builth ,Taxman and the rest of the dicks on here . Learn how to discourse.
You will understand K doesn't want to sh@g wozza s wife or rip into his Persian pussy.
Nah, swim it is but play tidy.This thread will be troll free. |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:05 - Sep 3 with 1740 views | exiledclaseboy |
Someone check on Kerouac. I don’t think he’s taking things well. |  |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:05 - Sep 3 with 1738 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:09 - Sep 3 by Kerouac |
"Think about this - how can a no deal be on one hand described as no big deal, few small bumps on the road etc, while at the same time is being held out as so awful that the EU will cave?"
So you are saying that a no deal Brexit is no big deal to the EU...with a straight face. |
No, of course not. I’m saying that Johnson etc are saying it’s a huge deal for the EU and yet no big deal for us.
A no deal is terrible for both, but worse for us which is why threatening it is so silly. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:09 - Sep 3 with 1721 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:05 - Sep 3 by exiledclaseboy |
Someone check on Kerouac. I don’t think he’s taking things well. |
He should be happier now, there’s a new LibDem MP.
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:50 - Sep 3 with 1644 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:45 - Sep 3 by Batterseajack |
If the EU solely worked to benefit French and German voters, they would throw Ireland under the bus in these negotiations in order to avoid no deal Brexit. |
Use Ireland to fvck UK.
Then fvck Ireland for their low corporation tax.. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:53 - Sep 3 with 1632 views | Jango |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:56 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt |
The EU aren’t going to renegotiate anything.
“No deal” staying on the table isn’t going to make the slightest difference to anything.
There is no workable alternative to the backstop in the foreseeable future; it won’t be removed and Boris knew it.
He isn’t even trying. It was never his intention to. He’s a massive fraud.
Boris has overplayed his hand. He’s about to be found out. Happy days. |
You don’t know that so stop pretending you do. No Deal has been the best bargaining tool we’ve had and the remainers in parliament have done everything they can, under both governments to make No Deal an impossibility. There’s no reason why they can’t wait until the 17th October to see what deal is on the table before forcing through this legislation. The fact is they don’t want brexit and neither do you. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:57 - Sep 3 with 1615 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:56 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt |
The EU aren’t going to renegotiate anything.
“No deal” staying on the table isn’t going to make the slightest difference to anything.
There is no workable alternative to the backstop in the foreseeable future; it won’t be removed and Boris knew it.
He isn’t even trying. It was never his intention to. He’s a massive fraud.
Boris has overplayed his hand. He’s about to be found out. Happy days. |
EU said WA could never be reopened, backstop remains as is.
EU reportedly to want to look at proposals that replace backstop.
There's scope for renegotiation.
I don't think they ever would renegotiate personally, not in their interests to do so.
We don't know if "no deal" on the table will make any difference because HoC MPs are working to take it off the table, doing EU's work for them. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:17 - Sep 3 with 1567 views | WarwickHunt |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:57 - Sep 3 by bluey_the_blue |
EU said WA could never be reopened, backstop remains as is.
EU reportedly to want to look at proposals that replace backstop.
There's scope for renegotiation.
I don't think they ever would renegotiate personally, not in their interests to do so.
We don't know if "no deal" on the table will make any difference because HoC MPs are working to take it off the table, doing EU's work for them. |
“EU reportedly to want to look at proposals that replace backstop” 😂
You mean the EU will humour Boris and avoid being blamed for refusing to look at these mythical solutions for replacing the backstop. They aren’t idiots.
Go on Boris, you’ve got 30 days to come up with something no one has managed for three years. Off you go, son - tick tock... | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:20 - Sep 3 with 1561 views | WarwickHunt |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 16:53 - Sep 3 by Jango |
You don’t know that so stop pretending you do. No Deal has been the best bargaining tool we’ve had and the remainers in parliament have done everything they can, under both governments to make No Deal an impossibility. There’s no reason why they can’t wait until the 17th October to see what deal is on the table before forcing through this legislation. The fact is they don’t want brexit and neither do you. |
Mince. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:33 - Sep 3 with 1534 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:17 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt |
“EU reportedly to want to look at proposals that replace backstop” 😂
You mean the EU will humour Boris and avoid being blamed for refusing to look at these mythical solutions for replacing the backstop. They aren’t idiots.
Go on Boris, you’ve got 30 days to come up with something no one has managed for three years. Off you go, son - tick tock... |
As I've said repeatedly, we could have the greatest plan in the history of plans that solves everything and gives everyone a free unicorn.
It would be rejected.
I'll leave you to work out why. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:35 - Sep 3 with 1529 views | Highjack |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 15:14 - Sep 3 by perchrockjack |
Nit sure whether to get down to naturist beach here or to read K and Wozza in full flow.
You need to watch Builth ,Taxman and the rest of the dicks on here . Learn how to discourse.
You will understand K doesn't want to sh@g wozza s wife or rip into his Persian pussy.
Nah, swim it is but play tidy.This thread will be troll free. |
Wtf? |  |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:37 - Sep 3 with 1519 views | Highjack |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 13:25 - Sep 3 by Yossarian |
You need to spend less time on here and more time on Trust work....or better still, your day job. Your mental health is clearly suffering. |
Innit. And she’s got the cheek to say I post too much. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:39 - Sep 3 with 1508 views | exiledclaseboy |
Johnson had a shocker in the House today. Entertaining listening. | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:40 - Sep 3 with 1507 views | waynekerr55 |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:35 - Sep 3 by Highjack |
Wtf? |
uLdIi KiiBoReD | |
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| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:41 - Sep 3 with 1503 views | WarwickHunt |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:33 - Sep 3 by bluey_the_blue |
As I've said repeatedly, we could have the greatest plan in the history of plans that solves everything and gives everyone a free unicorn.
It would be rejected.
I'll leave you to work out why. |
There. Is. No. Fûcking. Plan.
“Hilary Benn, the Labour chair of the Commons Brexit committee, says it is not just Angela Merkel saying the UK has not put forward any plans. The Irish deputy PM, Simon Coveney, said recently the UK had not put forward any plans. He asks Johnson to confirm the Daily Telegraph report saying Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, told him the government was heading for no deal”. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:47 - Sep 3 with 1488 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:41 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt |
There. Is. No. Fûcking. Plan.
“Hilary Benn, the Labour chair of the Commons Brexit committee, says it is not just Angela Merkel saying the UK has not put forward any plans. The Irish deputy PM, Simon Coveney, said recently the UK had not put forward any plans. He asks Johnson to confirm the Daily Telegraph report saying Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, told him the government was heading for no deal”. |
* bangs head *
There can be no deal progress until EU want to negotiate.
EU won't negotiate whilst MPs in HoC can block a no deal Brexit.
UK not putting any plans forward yet is meaningless as EU wouldn't negotiate.
That does not mean progress hasn't been made towards formulating plans to submit.
Benn can cite two EU leaders who don't want us leaving and a leaked claim all he likes. | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:51 - Sep 3 with 1483 views | WarwickHunt |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:47 - Sep 3 by bluey_the_blue |
* bangs head *
There can be no deal progress until EU want to negotiate.
EU won't negotiate whilst MPs in HoC can block a no deal Brexit.
UK not putting any plans forward yet is meaningless as EU wouldn't negotiate.
That does not mean progress hasn't been made towards formulating plans to submit.
Benn can cite two EU leaders who don't want us leaving and a leaked claim all he likes. |
Oh FFS, what’s the fûcking point... | | | |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:56 - Sep 3 with 1472 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Does Brexit die tonight? on 17:51 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt |
Oh FFS, what’s the fûcking point... |
I know, you just don't want to get it. | | | |
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Ah, bless. Anyway, thank you for referencing the manifestos for the past General Election. 
