| Let's be honest 22:22 - Jul 18 with 13525 views | NotLoyal |
These fücking idiots aren't going to pay for any player regardless of what they say. A free here and their and a loan at best, fück me anyone could run a business like that with no investment. No better than silver twãtting shield or Petty. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 19:03 - Jul 19 with 1534 views | Humpty |
| Let's be honest on 17:12 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
This is the situation as I see it.
We were relegated with massive financial obligations that we had nothing like enough income to cover, hence us desperately trying to sell/loan out anything that still earned a Premier League wage. We managed to get shot of some, but not as many as we would have liked. However, some space was found to add players like Celina to the mix.
One year on we still have four or five players on the books that earn far too much, hence the struggle to try and move them on again in order to avoid a loss. The sale of Dan James and departure of players like Fer and Olson have again given us enough income so that we aren't desperate to sell, but the reduced parachute payments this year have put a bit of a pause on spending until we can move on the likes of the Ayews, Baston etc.
If we can reduce our future financial commitments to to manageable proportions this window then I wouldn't be surprised to see us pay a few fees. If we're still facing the prospect of another year paying some or all of the salaries of the Ayews, Baston etc we probably won't. Birch has to work on the assumption that we're going to end up paying these players. It would be foolish not to.
People can grumble about remaining competitive, but my main concern is remaining solvent. Plenty of teams have dropped out of the PL and ended up right in the shit financially. If a couple of fallow years are needed to get everything back on an even keel then I've got no problem with it. |
Sorry. Far too sensible. |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 19:10 - Jul 19 with 1512 views | Dr_Winston |
| Let's be honest on 17:48 - Jul 19 by longlostjack |
No problem with all that. What I do have a problem with is their obvious lack of communication with the Trust. Why? |
Number of reasons I reckon. Stupidity is probably the main one. I may be wrong, but I'm also vaguely aware of a tendency in American corporate culture for minority investors to get a bit sidelined, especially if they're not happy with the way things are going. Witness Kroenke largely ignoring Usmanov at Arsenal for another example. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Let's be honest on 19:13 - Jul 19 with 1496 views | Oldjack |
| Let's be honest on 07:12 - Jul 19 by Swans9 |
Mc burnie will be the next to go sad times for our club. Hope we get new owners before there is nothing left to sell. |
Hope we get new owners who actually don't mind losing money out of their own pockets every year , such is the state of football theses days . Man c are a prime example of this .
Anyone who thinks this bloody lot are here for our benefit and the wellbeing of OUR club need certifying .
Huw and co need shooting for their pure greed  |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Let's be honest on 20:10 - Jul 19 with 1436 views | Dr_Winston |
| Let's be honest on 19:13 - Jul 19 by Oldjack |
Hope we get new owners who actually don't mind losing money out of their own pockets every year , such is the state of football theses days . Man c are a prime example of this .
Anyone who thinks this bloody lot are here for our benefit and the wellbeing of OUR club need certifying .
Huw and co need shooting for their pure greed |
So basically you want us to become a subsidised toy. Subject to the whims of whatever megalomaniac is in charge. No thanks.
I doubt anyone thinks they're here for our benefit. It is however an undeniable fact that whatever is good for SCFC is good for them, and it is in their interests to ensure that we remain a financially stable going concern, ideally returning to the PL at some point. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Let's be honest on 20:22 - Jul 19 with 1404 views | Gaz_M |
| Let's be honest on 20:10 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
So basically you want us to become a subsidised toy. Subject to the whims of whatever megalomaniac is in charge. No thanks.
I doubt anyone thinks they're here for our benefit. It is however an undeniable fact that whatever is good for SCFC is good for them, and it is in their interests to ensure that we remain a financially stable going concern, ideally returning to the PL at some point. |
Don't bother. Old Jack is a doughnut. |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 20:24 - Jul 19 with 1395 views | Fireboy2 |
Getting rid of the leeches that are the ayews and baston, montero are vital as being solvent is our no 1 priority, i will be very happy just to stay up this season. |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 20:39 - Jul 19 with 1352 views | Oldjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:10 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
So basically you want us to become a subsidised toy. Subject to the whims of whatever megalomaniac is in charge. No thanks.
I doubt anyone thinks they're here for our benefit. It is however an undeniable fact that whatever is good for SCFC is good for them, and it is in their interests to ensure that we remain a financially stable going concern, ideally returning to the PL at some point. |
so when do you reckon our 27 owners will be getting a little slice of our money ?
keep on dreaming ,dreamer
stability my arse ,that may happen when we reach the bottom of the leagues
get it through your thick skull theses guys are takers not givers ,you'll see ,dreamer | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Let's be honest on 20:40 - Jul 19 with 1350 views | Oldjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:22 - Jul 19 by Gaz_M |
Don't bother. Old Jack is a doughnut. |
and you can fuk right off aswell ,arsehole ! | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Let's be honest on 20:42 - Jul 19 with 1338 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:24 - Jul 19 by Fireboy2 |
Getting rid of the leeches that are the ayews and baston, montero are vital as being solvent is our no 1 priority, i will be very happy just to stay up this season. |
I have this awful feeling that A Ayew, Baston and Monterro will be on our books for the coming season. So it would be a financial disaster to be looking to sign anything other than cheap loanees. |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 20:43 - Jul 19 with 1335 views | monmouth |
| Let's be honest on 20:10 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
So basically you want us to become a subsidised toy. Subject to the whims of whatever megalomaniac is in charge. No thanks.
I doubt anyone thinks they're here for our benefit. It is however an undeniable fact that whatever is good for SCFC is good for them, and it is in their interests to ensure that we remain a financially stable going concern, ideally returning to the PL at some point. |
I read it that he wants us to be owned by money launderers. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 20:43 - Jul 19 with 1332 views | Cooperman |
| Let's be honest on 17:12 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
This is the situation as I see it.
We were relegated with massive financial obligations that we had nothing like enough income to cover, hence us desperately trying to sell/loan out anything that still earned a Premier League wage. We managed to get shot of some, but not as many as we would have liked. However, some space was found to add players like Celina to the mix.
One year on we still have four or five players on the books that earn far too much, hence the struggle to try and move them on again in order to avoid a loss. The sale of Dan James and departure of players like Fer and Olson have again given us enough income so that we aren't desperate to sell, but the reduced parachute payments this year have put a bit of a pause on spending until we can move on the likes of the Ayews, Baston etc.
If we can reduce our future financial commitments to to manageable proportions this window then I wouldn't be surprised to see us pay a few fees. If we're still facing the prospect of another year paying some or all of the salaries of the Ayews, Baston etc we probably won't. Birch has to work on the assumption that we're going to end up paying these players. It would be foolish not to.
People can grumble about remaining competitive, but my main concern is remaining solvent. Plenty of teams have dropped out of the PL and ended up right in the shit financially. If a couple of fallow years are needed to get everything back on an even keel then I've got no problem with it. |
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| Let's be honest on 20:45 - Jul 19 with 1320 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:40 - Jul 19 by Oldjack |
and you can fuk right off aswell ,arsehole ! |
You wait until i tell Ken on Monday what you've been posting on here!  | | | |
| Let's be honest on 20:47 - Jul 19 with 1314 views | Chief |
| Let's be honest on 20:42 - Jul 19 by Garyjack |
I have this awful feeling that A Ayew, Baston and Monterro will be on our books for the coming season. So it would be a financial disaster to be looking to sign anything other than cheap loanees. |
Let's play them then!
Mutual benefit for them to play and try and impress |  |
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| Let's be honest on 20:47 - Jul 19 with 1311 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:43 - Jul 19 by monmouth |
I read it that he wants us to be owned by money launderers. |
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| Let's be honest on 20:52 - Jul 19 with 1277 views | Dr_Winston |
| Let's be honest on 20:39 - Jul 19 by Oldjack |
so when do you reckon our 27 owners will be getting a little slice of our money ?
keep on dreaming ,dreamer
stability my arse ,that may happen when we reach the bottom of the leagues
get it through your thick skull theses guys are takers not givers ,you'll see ,dreamer |
I'm not entirely sure that even you know what you're going on about. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Let's be honest on 20:56 - Jul 19 with 1271 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:47 - Jul 19 by Chief |
Let's play them then!
Mutual benefit for them to play and try and impress |
Yeah sure, always good to have a crock who plays 20 mins every 10 games, a player who doesn't want to be anywhere near these shores and an out an out mercenary in your squad on a combined wage approaching £150k a week, it helps no end to build confidence in a squad.  | | | |
| Let's be honest on 21:00 - Jul 19 with 1256 views | Oldjack |
| Let's be honest on 20:52 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not entirely sure that even you know what you're going on about. |
I know exactly what's occurring and I and many many others will not ever be taken in by bullshyte, unlike yourself ,dreamer , I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them
their track record speaks for itself, Dav showed us that and that's why he left this forum | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Let's be honest on 21:03 - Jul 19 with 1244 views | Dr_Winston |
| Let's be honest on 21:00 - Jul 19 by Oldjack |
I know exactly what's occurring and I and many many others will not ever be taken in by bullshyte, unlike yourself ,dreamer , I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them
their track record speaks for itself, Dav showed us that and that's why he left this forum |
I thought Dav left this forum because everyone took the mickey out of him for being a boring Trump supporter? | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Let's be honest on 21:16 - Jul 19 with 1204 views | Chief |
| Let's be honest on 20:56 - Jul 19 by Garyjack |
Yeah sure, always good to have a crock who plays 20 mins every 10 games, a player who doesn't want to be anywhere near these shores and an out an out mercenary in your squad on a combined wage approaching £150k a week, it helps no end to build confidence in a squad. |
You got any bright ideas of how to offload them then?
You fail to mention that they are actually talented players and should be very effective in this division. | |
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| Let's be honest on 21:20 - Jul 19 with 1194 views | Cooperman |
| Let's be honest on 21:16 - Jul 19 by Chief |
You got any bright ideas of how to offload them then?
You fail to mention that they are actually talented players and should be very effective in this division. |
You’re assuming that they are willing to pull on the white shirt of Swansea City AFC. I’m not sure that they are. | |
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| Let's be honest on 21:21 - Jul 19 with 1181 views | Chief |
| Let's be honest on 21:20 - Jul 19 by Cooperman |
You’re assuming that they are willing to pull on the white shirt of Swansea City AFC. I’m not sure that they are. |
If they aren't cancel their contracts or don't pay them | |
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| Let's be honest on 21:23 - Jul 19 with 1176 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 21:16 - Jul 19 by Chief |
You got any bright ideas of how to offload them then?
You fail to mention that they are actually talented players and should be very effective in this division. |
No, i haven't any ideas how to offload them. That's exactly the point. We're still in a financial mess because we have them on our books. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 21:24 - Jul 19 with 1170 views | Garyjack |
| Let's be honest on 21:21 - Jul 19 by Chief |
If they aren't cancel their contracts or don't pay them |
You are Tony Petty and i claim my £5!  | | | |
| Let's be honest on 21:24 - Jul 19 with 1170 views | Oldjack |
| Let's be honest on 21:03 - Jul 19 by Dr_Winston |
I thought Dav left this forum because everyone took the mickey out of him for being a boring Trump supporter? |
thought wrong again then .He dug up their history and posted it on here ,and that's why he left , he wanted nothing more to do with the Swans fact [Post edited 19 Jul 2019 21:26]
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| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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