| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. 18:28 - Feb 17 with 26025 views | TailGunner |
USA plan - Within 18 months if we don't go up.
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:11 - Jan 23 with 2200 views | monmouth |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 15:51 - Jan 23 by hobo |
By the same token, Joe Rodon (22) is more ready for Championship football than Jamie Sterry (24) |
Or indeed Sol Bamba (432) [Post edited 23 Jan 2020 16:22]
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:21 - Jan 23 with 2165 views | Badlands |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:06 - Jan 23 by Kilkennyjack |
We can only afford what a mid championship team can afford.
This is why Newport, Yeovil, Exeter do not have Cat 1 - they cant afford it.
Thats the bottom line. |
As was pointed out - neither does Newcastle.
IMO I'd be doing everything possible to keep Cat1 status ... but we could't affair. large enough number to sustain taking out so many for the first team and young players will expect to be playing at a higher level than our current under 23s. |  |
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:28 - Jan 23 with 2156 views | Jacket |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:07 - Jan 23 by jasper_T |
Cooper said we only went for Woodman after Benda got injured. Both have played well at the level of football offered them this season. |
Let's hope he steps up next season | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:39 - Jan 23 with 2137 views | bennytheblue |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:06 - Jan 23 by Kilkennyjack |
We can only afford what a mid championship team can afford.
This is why Newport, Yeovil, Exeter do not have Cat 1 - they cant afford it.
Thats the bottom line. |
I’m surprised Sunderland can afford it, bet they lose it soon as they ain’t going nowhere |  | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 17:24 - Jan 23 with 2071 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 15:54 - Jan 23 by Badlands |
While saying there were no plan to alter category status for this season (April 2020) Birch explained that, in terms of coaching and quality of games, there was little difference between Cat 2 & 3 but. huge difference in costs.
If you are only looking at local players and players over the ge of 16 (maybe 18) Cat 1 is a bit of a luxury. If you want bring in the better players from a wider area (and internationally) or get the better under 12s Cat 1 is needed otherwise there would be little difference in the quality of coaching. |
Yes but pinching good young talent from other clubs is where we have been successful, this would put us at a massive disadvantage, if this happens with all the players we will lose next season, we really are in the shit! | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 21:56 - Jan 23 with 1855 views | oldcob |
At the forum in Taibach tonight, Birch denied there were any plans to down grade the academy "at this time". | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:00 - Jan 23 with 1843 views | pencoedjack |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 21:56 - Jan 23 by oldcob |
At the forum in Taibach tonight, Birch denied there were any plans to down grade the academy "at this time". |
If true (which I doubt) excellent news. |  | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:26 - Jan 23 with 1804 views | Chief |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 15:51 - Jan 23 by bennytheblue |
You know I can’t answer that question though, you just like being cantankerous by asking it.
Thought you’d be more concerned about losing all that academy you invested in? |
Why can't you answer the questions?
I'm very concerned about losing the academy but it's not confirmed yet, so I won't let it keep me awake. I was just taking an interest in your claims seeing as you brought them up. Bit pointless saying something on a football forum if you don't want others to comment or query what was said |  |
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:33 - Jan 23 with 1783 views | LeonWasGod |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 14:32 - Jan 23 by Jacket |
And yet, Freddie Woodman, 22 is way way more ready for Championship football than Steve Benda. Makes you wonder. |
According to wiki, his old man was keeper coach at Newcastle when he joined them as a 14/15 yr old, so might have a lot to do with his particular case.
League status will be important too. Lower Cat academies have a restricted area they can scout from don’t they? We’ve done alright locally in the past, so hopefully we will in the future. It’ll mean the end of raiding other clubs for young players, but we can’t afford them anyway now. Best thing for us is to pick up older PL rejects on a free or notional fee, like we did with Leon. Loads of former top league development players have to drop down the league’s - the problem is spotting the ones who are good enough to get back to the top level. |  | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:40 - Jan 23 with 1766 views | hobo |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 17:24 - Jan 23 by AlfieMooresSon |
Yes but pinching good young talent from other clubs is where we have been successful, this would put us at a massive disadvantage, if this happens with all the players we will lose next season, we really are in the shit! |
It's ok, we can sign them 5 years down the line for £10m each with all the money we've saved. |  | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 23:20 - Jan 23 with 1692 views | builthjack |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 21:56 - Jan 23 by oldcob |
At the forum in Taibach tonight, Birch denied there were any plans to down grade the academy "at this time". |
Is Birch telling the truth? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 23:27 - Jan 23 with 1685 views | dobjack2 |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:33 - Jan 23 by LeonWasGod |
According to wiki, his old man was keeper coach at Newcastle when he joined them as a 14/15 yr old, so might have a lot to do with his particular case.
League status will be important too. Lower Cat academies have a restricted area they can scout from don’t they? We’ve done alright locally in the past, so hopefully we will in the future. It’ll mean the end of raiding other clubs for young players, but we can’t afford them anyway now. Best thing for us is to pick up older PL rejects on a free or notional fee, like we did with Leon. Loads of former top league development players have to drop down the league’s - the problem is spotting the ones who are good enough to get back to the top level. |
... and getting them to come down here as opposed to a club nearer their home/previous club. | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 23:47 - Jan 23 with 1663 views | theloneranger |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:33 - Jan 23 by LeonWasGod |
According to wiki, his old man was keeper coach at Newcastle when he joined them as a 14/15 yr old, so might have a lot to do with his particular case.
League status will be important too. Lower Cat academies have a restricted area they can scout from don’t they? We’ve done alright locally in the past, so hopefully we will in the future. It’ll mean the end of raiding other clubs for young players, but we can’t afford them anyway now. Best thing for us is to pick up older PL rejects on a free or notional fee, like we did with Leon. Loads of former top league development players have to drop down the league’s - the problem is spotting the ones who are good enough to get back to the top level. |
Freddie's father Andy was the goalkeeper for Northampton against us in that heart breaking 1997 play off final at Wembley. |  |
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 00:14 - Jan 24 with 1641 views | Badlands |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 23:20 - Jan 23 by builthjack |
Is Birch telling the truth? |
When has he not?
Oh, yes. When he's helping the Americans asset strip the club  | |
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 00:41 - Jan 24 with 1625 views | jasper_T |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 22:33 - Jan 23 by LeonWasGod |
According to wiki, his old man was keeper coach at Newcastle when he joined them as a 14/15 yr old, so might have a lot to do with his particular case.
League status will be important too. Lower Cat academies have a restricted area they can scout from don’t they? We’ve done alright locally in the past, so hopefully we will in the future. It’ll mean the end of raiding other clubs for young players, but we can’t afford them anyway now. Best thing for us is to pick up older PL rejects on a free or notional fee, like we did with Leon. Loads of former top league development players have to drop down the league’s - the problem is spotting the ones who are good enough to get back to the top level. |
He was 16 I think. Went out on his first loan within a year. Benda was nearly 19 when he came here. Neither the perfect example of an academy product from their club.
Cat 1 clubs get unrestricted national recruitment from u12s level (as long as they provide full-time education in-house). Lower categories have to stay within travel time limits until u17s. Recruiting first year scholars for the u18s as we have been doing wouldn't change if we dropped to Cat 3 afaik. | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 05:50 - Jan 24 with 1558 views | KGriz16 |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 23:20 - Jan 23 by builthjack |
Is Birch telling the truth? |
Hahahaha. Ffs. Get a grip. |  | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 09:44 - Jan 24 with 1439 views | jackrmee |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 16:06 - Jan 23 by Kilkennyjack |
We can only afford what a mid championship team can afford.
This is why Newport, Yeovil, Exeter do not have Cat 1 - they cant afford it.
Thats the bottom line. |
Some clubs still do though. Even in league 1.
Maybe that's about their ambition. |  |
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| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 09:52 - Jan 24 with 1429 views | Blue_Blood |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 00:29 - Jan 23 by Bluebird |
hi Roathie  |
Roathie be f*cked! | | | |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 10:10 - Jan 24 with 1465 views | Blue_Blood |
| Academy Cat 1 - to Cat 3.. on 15:54 - Jan 23 by Badlands |
While saying there were no plan to alter category status for this season (April 2020) Birch explained that, in terms of coaching and quality of games, there was little difference between Cat 2 & 3 but. huge difference in costs.
If you are only looking at local players and players over the ge of 16 (maybe 18) Cat 1 is a bit of a luxury. If you want bring in the better players from a wider area (and internationally) or get the better under 12s Cat 1 is needed otherwise there would be little difference in the quality of coaching. |
Is this on record that Birch said this?
It's simply not true.
As a matter of fact when it comes to the younger age groups u9-u14 there is very little difference in fixtures between Category 1 and 2 but a massive difference between category 2 and category 3.
Swansea will currently play a standard fixture list of Cardiff, Southampton, Reading, Bristol City, West Brom, Birmingham, Wolves, Villa, Coventry but if they dropped to Category 3 then their standard fixture list would consist of teams like Bristol Rovers, Exeter, Plymouth etc.
The same would apply at u16s, u18s and u23s. There would be a noticeable drop in opposition at this level and you'd no longer play the likes of Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc if you dropped to Cat 2 but you wouldn't even play the likes of Cardiff, Bristol City, Leeds, Forest, Palace etc if you dropped to Category 3.
If you watch an interview with Stuart Webber and Stuart Weaver on YouTube when they were at Huddersfield they say that the only viable options for a club their size was category 1 or 2 or it would be pointless. (They soon scrapped their academy altogether)
I'm not sure I agree with Webber here but I do believe it would be a lot harder to produce players for championship football in today's environment through the category 3 programme.
Especially if Cardiff (not that I think you need to worry about that at this moment) or Bristol ever become category 1.
It costs a lot to run category 1 but it can also cost a lot not too, as was highlighted in the Rabbi Matondo situation at Cardiff. | | | |
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