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Embarressed 20:51 - Dec 15 with 7820 viewsswiggy

For the first time in over 50 years of watching the mighty dale I am embarressed. We lost after shooting ourselves in the foot twice, the away fans are laugining at us, because we are rubbish, pass back, pass back, pass back. Easy defend, pass back, keeper misses it. Ho up ho Merrfy Christmas. Here’s my solution, pick the best players I the best position and play them for a few games, let them get used to playing together and it will be OK. Do not play the best striker in the league in midfield doh doh, Homer had a point. If it doesn’t work sack it.
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Embarressed on 20:52 - Dec 15 with 4902 viewsdingdangblue

Did you not go to the fcUtd game?

Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
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Embarressed on 21:03 - Dec 15 with 4824 viewsswiggy

Yes, sat I pearl street listening to complete dick heads winding me up but we at least we knew it was as an aberration, today ffs, bigger capitulation than I can remember
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Embarressed on 21:40 - Dec 15 with 4688 viewsSuddenLad

You've been watching Dale for 50 years and that's the biggest embarrassment you can remember ? Have you been blindfolded for all the previous games ??

Today wasn't good by any means, but it's a long, long, long way from some games that have preceded it.

Dale 1 Telford 4 as an example. You need to think again.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Embarressed on 23:10 - Dec 15 with 4462 viewspioneer

50 years takes you back to the 1960s, but I assume you were in a coma from 1973 to 1983.

Yes its awful at the moment, but not a patch on the crap we played in those years.
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Embarressed on 23:28 - Dec 15 with 4417 viewsswiggy

Embarressed on 21:40 - Dec 15 by SuddenLad

You've been watching Dale for 50 years and that's the biggest embarrassment you can remember ? Have you been blindfolded for all the previous games ??

Today wasn't good by any means, but it's a long, long, long way from some games that have preceded it.

Dale 1 Telford 4 as an example. You need to think again.


Yes, I did watch the Telford game and all the succession of crap since, but ffs we have the best set if players we’ve ever had. Top scorer in the league, lets play him in midfield, ffs we have more midfielders than enough. Please. Let’s have a settled for a change
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Embarressed on 23:57 - Dec 15 with 4364 viewskiwidale

Embarressed on 23:10 - Dec 15 by pioneer

50 years takes you back to the 1960s, but I assume you were in a coma from 1973 to 1983.

Yes its awful at the moment, but not a patch on the crap we played in those years.


There is a major difference back then we mostly played to our potential, we were crap because the team was crap. Today in general we have good players some very good players we play crap because the manager is crap.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2018 23:58]

This is not the time for bickering.

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Embarressed on 00:03 - Dec 16 with 4343 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 23:57 - Dec 15 by kiwidale

There is a major difference back then we mostly played to our potential, we were crap because the team was crap. Today in general we have good players some very good players we play crap because the manager is crap.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2018 23:58]


Here is a wild theory could our manager be depressed to some extent

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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Embarressed on 00:04 - Dec 16 with 4338 viewsjudd

Embarressed on 00:03 - Dec 16 by James1980

Here is a wild theory could our manager be depressed to some extent


As much as us?

Poll: What is it to be then?

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Embarressed on 00:11 - Dec 16 with 4320 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 00:04 - Dec 16 by judd

As much as us?


No not just disappointed at results/performances.
Based on interviews he seems to have lost his joie de football.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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Embarressed on 00:14 - Dec 16 with 4313 viewsjudd

Embarressed on 00:11 - Dec 16 by James1980

No not just disappointed at results/performances.
Based on interviews he seems to have lost his joie de football.


As much as us?

Poll: What is it to be then?

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Embarressed on 00:29 - Dec 16 with 4293 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 00:14 - Dec 16 by judd

As much as us?


I have thought this for a while. The Hill of old would have got players out on pitch with fire in their bellies. After a loss his interviews would have been more passionate. Has the loss of his father plus the stress of JT's illness, considering he sees him as a son played heavy on his mind?

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Embarressed on 00:32 - Dec 16 with 4289 viewsrochdale_ranger

I farted and followed through one day at work. I had to leave my boxers in the van and go commando for the rest of the day. A few month later my shit stained boxers were found by a workmate. That was far more embarrassing then a goalkeepers backpass. Man up.
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Embarressed on 01:06 - Dec 16 with 4261 viewsdingdangblue

Embarressed on 23:57 - Dec 15 by kiwidale

There is a major difference back then we mostly played to our potential, we were crap because the team was crap. Today in general we have good players some very good players we play crap because the manager is crap.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2018 23:58]


No he isn't. We or he may be going through a bit of a lull but to describe him as crap is... well... crap.

Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
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Embarressed on 01:17 - Dec 16 with 4247 viewskiwidale

Embarressed on 01:06 - Dec 16 by dingdangblue

No he isn't. We or he may be going through a bit of a lull but to describe him as crap is... well... crap.


A bit of a lull? pardon.
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This is not the time for bickering.

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Embarressed on 01:19 - Dec 16 with 4240 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 01:06 - Dec 16 by dingdangblue

No he isn't. We or he may be going through a bit of a lull but to describe him as crap is... well... crap.


IMO which according to some has no value by the reading of it.
Players are not coached to make the mistakes they do.
The team is set out to deal with the opposition on the day
Squad rotation is done to give players experience, prevent injury and give the best chance of victory/draw at least.
If it isn't happening already shooting practice needs to happen more from all sensible shooting positions.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Embarressed on 01:39 - Dec 16 with 4228 viewsSandyman

Embarressed on 01:06 - Dec 16 by dingdangblue

No he isn't. We or he may be going through a bit of a lull but to describe him as crap is... well... crap.


5 home wins in 25 home games since late 2017 is "a bit of a lull" ?
To describe that form as such is crap.
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Embarressed on 09:27 - Dec 16 with 4033 viewsNDGN82

Embarressed on 01:19 - Dec 16 by James1980

IMO which according to some has no value by the reading of it.
Players are not coached to make the mistakes they do.
The team is set out to deal with the opposition on the day
Squad rotation is done to give players experience, prevent injury and give the best chance of victory/draw at least.
If it isn't happening already shooting practice needs to happen more from all sensible shooting positions.


James1980 - I do worry about some of your comments - wood for the trees and all that!

Presumably you are either related or working alongside KH in which case I do applaud your determination in defending his decisions at all times. However, if you are a true Rochdale fan, you will know things aren't right?

Shooting practice isn't the answer. The answer is playing your best players in the best positions, i.e. your best finisher (Hendo) up front, your best central midfielder (Cannon) in the centre of midfield, etc. Its a simple game which KH chooses to over complicate

Rotation/injuries is currently being used as a poor excuse for not playing the players where they should be.
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Embarressed on 09:38 - Dec 16 with 3985 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 09:27 - Dec 16 by NDGN82

James1980 - I do worry about some of your comments - wood for the trees and all that!

Presumably you are either related or working alongside KH in which case I do applaud your determination in defending his decisions at all times. However, if you are a true Rochdale fan, you will know things aren't right?

Shooting practice isn't the answer. The answer is playing your best players in the best positions, i.e. your best finisher (Hendo) up front, your best central midfielder (Cannon) in the centre of midfield, etc. Its a simple game which KH chooses to over complicate

Rotation/injuries is currently being used as a poor excuse for not playing the players where they should be.


Never met the bloke in my life.
Re shooting practice, why not it might mean less shots are of powder puff quality. as someone else referred to them and give players confidence to take a crack more often.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Embarressed on 10:10 - Dec 16 with 3913 viewsdawlishdale

I've said for a long time that I am concerned about the way we are coached. Genuine question, but who actually coaches the payers on a daily basis?

Whoever it is, they are not doing a good job. Our defence is leaky, our passing is often pointless, our crossing and set pieces are weary, and we don't shoot often enough.

Yesterday being a fine example of pretty much all the above, as has watching us for the past couple of years, especially at home.
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Embarressed on 10:31 - Dec 16 with 3861 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 10:10 - Dec 16 by dawlishdale

I've said for a long time that I am concerned about the way we are coached. Genuine question, but who actually coaches the payers on a daily basis?

Whoever it is, they are not doing a good job. Our defence is leaky, our passing is often pointless, our crossing and set pieces are weary, and we don't shoot often enough.

Yesterday being a fine example of pretty much all the above, as has watching us for the past couple of years, especially at home.


Is it the coaching or the players that aren't good enough to transfer what is done in training to match day situations?
Are other teams players simply just better than ours?
Has the poor home form lead to players being tense and nervous, when they cross the white line at 3pm on a Saturday?

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Embarressed on 10:36 - Dec 16 with 3849 viewsYorkshire_Dale

Embarressed on 10:10 - Dec 16 by dawlishdale

I've said for a long time that I am concerned about the way we are coached. Genuine question, but who actually coaches the payers on a daily basis?

Whoever it is, they are not doing a good job. Our defence is leaky, our passing is often pointless, our crossing and set pieces are weary, and we don't shoot often enough.

Yesterday being a fine example of pretty much all the above, as has watching us for the past couple of years, especially at home.


I was thinking in a similar vein to that Dawlish.......does Chris Beech or BBM or the GK coaches EVER question King of the Hill?

Do they get any involvement in team selection as they are the ones taking the training/boxing sessions?

Would they say "it's too cold for Inman today,play Cannon"

This morning's pearl of wisdom on Twitter is "We 've got to be more convincing in the final third"..........but we're still clowning around in the first third and players acting like Chris Brass, would anyone tell him though?.
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Embarressed on 19:57 - Dec 16 with 3517 viewspioneer

Embarressed on 23:57 - Dec 15 by kiwidale

There is a major difference back then we mostly played to our potential, we were crap because the team was crap. Today in general we have good players some very good players we play crap because the manager is crap.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2018 23:58]


original poster said for the first time hhe/she was embarrassed. I defy anybody who watched the drivel in the dark days to say at no point where they embarrassed. I was embarrased about the team, the orgaisation, the management, the play....everything about the club was embarrassing. We were a laughing stock.
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Embarressed on 20:15 - Dec 16 with 3495 viewsSunningDale

Embarressed on 10:31 - Dec 16 by James1980

Is it the coaching or the players that aren't good enough to transfer what is done in training to match day situations?
Are other teams players simply just better than ours?
Has the poor home form lead to players being tense and nervous, when they cross the white line at 3pm on a Saturday?


Jesus Christ, do you ever switch off?

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Embarressed on 20:25 - Dec 16 with 3472 viewsJames1980

Embarressed on 20:15 - Dec 16 by SunningDale

Jesus Christ, do you ever switch off?


No

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Poll: What does Jim need ?

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Embarressed on 20:39 - Dec 16 with 3416 viewsjoecooke

Embarressed on 19:57 - Dec 16 by pioneer

original poster said for the first time hhe/she was embarrassed. I defy anybody who watched the drivel in the dark days to say at no point where they embarrassed. I was embarrased about the team, the orgaisation, the management, the play....everything about the club was embarrassing. We were a laughing stock.


pies were alright

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