| Paradise Papers on 14:05 - Nov 8 with 2640 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Paradise Papers on 11:49 - Nov 8 by Brightonhoop |
My main point was that every household with a telly has to pay the BBC close to £200 a year. There is no choice. If you don't, in law, they can fine you £1000 or more leading to prison if not paid.
So to lose revenue to UK PLC whilst the NHS is labouring under a £2.5 Billion defect and nurses are so poorly paid they are relying on food banks is equally absurd and shameful.
It would be altogether better if the licence fee was re-directed directly to the NHS nd the BBC stood on it's own 2 feet. Wall to wall cooking programmed and mrs browns boys reflect the BBC asa bloated, poor quality entity that has dumbed down so far they have nowhere left to go.
Paying off shore shell entities and allowing money stolen from every household not to be subject to tax that the NHS is reliant is unacceptable on every level and the BBC must go. |
You're entitled to your opinion on the quality of the BBC, but this is the wrong thing to throw at them, sorry. It's completely irrelevant what happens to money the BBC plays independent companies for content once it's paid. It's like blaming the BBC if some researcher used his wages to pay someone to beat someone up. What you're saying is ludicrous.
In terms of the BBC itself, you have better points. It is bloated (although it has been cut severely and tons of changes have been made that I'm sure most people know nothing about that are all for the better). Some programmes I don't like. But that's irrelevant too. Mrs Brown's Boys, to me, is dreadful, but millions watch it. It's enormously successful. They can't just cancel successful shows because you personally don't like them. As I've said on here before, if you can't get £12 worth of entertainment out the BBC (radio, TV, internet, podcasts) per week (likely less if you're living with someone else), that's really down to you. It is an incredible deal. I agree it's been dumbed down, but there's some lovely stuff on BBC4 if you have a look.
But you're right, perhaps it is unfair. I prefer a rule where those of us who want the BBC can continue to pay the fee (I'd gladly pay double) - but anyone who won't or doesn't want to cannot watch, listen to, or view any BBC content at all, under any conditions, anywhere, or you'll be fined the full year's fee. Should be easy enough - blocks on the internet, blocks on your set top box, blocks built into radios. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 14:59 - Nov 8 with 2600 views | Boston |
| Paradise Papers on 09:50 - Nov 8 by robith |
"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why are people poor they call me a communist" |
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| Paradise Papers on 15:04 - Nov 8 with 2595 views | Boston |
Just how significant is your vote for a political party when they kow tow to the opinions and strategies of the CEO / Boards who formulate global policy in Davos? [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 15:05]
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| Paradise Papers on 18:13 - Nov 8 with 2543 views | SomersetHoops |
I heard the BBC Royal Correspondent say that both Prince Charles and the Queen consider their income from their "Duchys" are private income and the public have no right to know what they do with it. This is an absolute disgrace they hold this land and property based on their position subject to the agreement of the UK people and they hold it in trust and until those people decide they are no longer required. That can't come soon enough for me and I hope this example of their activity brings it sooner. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 18:17 - Nov 8 with 2538 views | Sharpy36 |
Rise up then. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 19:36 - Nov 8 with 2495 views | FredManRave |
| Paradise Papers on 18:17 - Nov 8 by Sharpy36 |
Rise up then. |
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| Paradise Papers on 22:33 - Nov 8 with 2436 views | Brightonhoop |
| Paradise Papers on 14:05 - Nov 8 by Antti_Heinola |
You're entitled to your opinion on the quality of the BBC, but this is the wrong thing to throw at them, sorry. It's completely irrelevant what happens to money the BBC plays independent companies for content once it's paid. It's like blaming the BBC if some researcher used his wages to pay someone to beat someone up. What you're saying is ludicrous.
In terms of the BBC itself, you have better points. It is bloated (although it has been cut severely and tons of changes have been made that I'm sure most people know nothing about that are all for the better). Some programmes I don't like. But that's irrelevant too. Mrs Brown's Boys, to me, is dreadful, but millions watch it. It's enormously successful. They can't just cancel successful shows because you personally don't like them. As I've said on here before, if you can't get £12 worth of entertainment out the BBC (radio, TV, internet, podcasts) per week (likely less if you're living with someone else), that's really down to you. It is an incredible deal. I agree it's been dumbed down, but there's some lovely stuff on BBC4 if you have a look.
But you're right, perhaps it is unfair. I prefer a rule where those of us who want the BBC can continue to pay the fee (I'd gladly pay double) - but anyone who won't or doesn't want to cannot watch, listen to, or view any BBC content at all, under any conditions, anywhere, or you'll be fined the full year's fee. Should be easy enough - blocks on the internet, blocks on your set top box, blocks built into radios. |
Genuinely fascinating stuff. Loving the ideas. I dont understand the machinations of carving off BBC to pay per view but it's got to be the future. Forcing the population to pay for the BBC whilst the NHS sinks....4 million people on the waiting list. For surgery. Current political argument on budgets is holding 4 million or allowing to slide to 5 million in the next two years. No aspiration to reduce the 4 million to 2 million for examle, or 100,000, whilst funding the BBC.....
That was sealed with Saville for me. The Independents opened the flood gates by publishing the accusations others would not, Including Newsnight, best of the Beeb, and several UK police forces not talking to each other. Water over the levy was the independents/commercials whilst Newsnight sought to brush Saville under the carpet. Unforgiveable imho. And factually undoable.
And for those that are compelled to hand over £200 a year to BBC, crumbs of decent music insight on BBC4 as crumbs from the BBC Banqueting table no longer cut the mustard.
I cannot fathom how one Brit Institute is allowed to starve another via tax avoidance. If I was PM the Licence Fee would go straight to the NHS and the BBC could sink or swim without it the monies that need to be better spent. Until we get a hold of tax avoidance. BBC is irrevelant in a cultural and cost vaccuum. It provides zero and costs the earth. We can no longer afford it. |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 23:22 - Nov 8 with 2419 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Paradise Papers on 22:33 - Nov 8 by Brightonhoop |
Genuinely fascinating stuff. Loving the ideas. I dont understand the machinations of carving off BBC to pay per view but it's got to be the future. Forcing the population to pay for the BBC whilst the NHS sinks....4 million people on the waiting list. For surgery. Current political argument on budgets is holding 4 million or allowing to slide to 5 million in the next two years. No aspiration to reduce the 4 million to 2 million for examle, or 100,000, whilst funding the BBC.....
That was sealed with Saville for me. The Independents opened the flood gates by publishing the accusations others would not, Including Newsnight, best of the Beeb, and several UK police forces not talking to each other. Water over the levy was the independents/commercials whilst Newsnight sought to brush Saville under the carpet. Unforgiveable imho. And factually undoable.
And for those that are compelled to hand over £200 a year to BBC, crumbs of decent music insight on BBC4 as crumbs from the BBC Banqueting table no longer cut the mustard.
I cannot fathom how one Brit Institute is allowed to starve another via tax avoidance. If I was PM the Licence Fee would go straight to the NHS and the BBC could sink or swim without it the monies that need to be better spent. Until we get a hold of tax avoidance. BBC is irrevelant in a cultural and cost vaccuum. It provides zero and costs the earth. We can no longer afford it. |
They won’t get read of the TV License because the BBC is the government’s mouthpiece. Just look at the ultra biased coverage they gave for Remain during the Brexit referendum. It was Pravda-esque! |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 00:51 - Nov 9 with 2377 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Paradise Papers on 21:22 - Nov 7 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I'll take a lecture on QPR, goats, or Frankie Knuckles discography but not The Labour Party.
When was the last CLP meeting you went to? Conference? Regional conference? Policy forum? If you only get your information on the Labour party from The Sun or the BBC then you're not really qualified to comment on the makeup of the LP.
I'm working class and so are 90% of the other activists I work with. The other 10% are mostly retired pensioners and students. Hardly the Garrick club is it?
The one thing that boils activists piss on the doorstep is people telling me (I work for London Underground frontline) that Labour don't represent the working class.
Champagne socialist is a nonsense term that people use as a weapon when they've run out of steam intellectually.
You can be rich and be socially responsible.
I'm not Jewish or a black south African. Does that mean I can't object to the Holocaust or Apartheid while I drive a German car and drink Saffer wine? No.
If you are poor and you protest you're bitter or jealous. If you are rich and you protest you're a champagne socialist. Almost as if people like you don't want to address the issue. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 1:28]
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"I'll take a lecture on QPR, goats, or Frankie Knuckles discography but not The Labour Party."
The modern day Labour party are no longer representative of the working class. Suck it up.
"I'm working class and so are 90% of the other activists I work with (I work for London Underground frontline)."
Holding ordinary Londoners to ransom every year to force yet another pay rise for already overpaid workers is not activism, it's greed.
"Almost as if people like you don't want to address the issue."
The irony is you're not addressing the issue because you're too blinkered by socialist propaganda. Tax avoiders come in all shapes and sizes including (shock, horror) socialists. [Post edited 9 Nov 2017 0:56]
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| Paradise Papers on 01:51 - Nov 9 with 2353 views | Sharpy36 |
The BBC was all fine and dandy up to the age of the internet when some of us woke up to what is really happening in the big wide world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41919796
Lineker, evans and winklemans wages cover half of that. Yes i understand they`ve now decided to not push forward with their plans but to even think of sacrificing 39 local radio stations and those employed there is not a corporation i wish to be a share holder. | |
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| Paradise Papers on 02:24 - Nov 9 with 2338 views | PlanetHonneywood |
No one has mentioned AI yet!
Something that will lead to dumming down of the human brain to a benign disposition, that will merely require intellectual bread and circuses to feed its imagination. While monitoring our thoughts/actions and responding accordingly.
'Sir, Comrade Smith appears to be getting upperty in his thoughts about the last night's Presidium's newsthought on the production of tractors in Sector Three. What shall we do?'
'Stick 'Club Tropicana' on. That'll quieten him for now. But put on a level six watch list and instruct his children to return from Thoughtschool with counter-thinking statistics, while placing them on internal-monitoring duties.' |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 04:56 - Nov 9 with 2324 views | PlanetHonneywood |
I nearly missed this.
Hubble "...You haven't directly responded to my assertion that crypto-currencies are another game changer, maybe underpinning the whole revolution. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on this. You talk about gold, and I understand your reasoning, but no one can ignore crypto-currencies any more. They are not going away.
Steve suggested earlier in this thread that nothing would change while the dollar remained the world's reserve currency. Well, not for much longer...."
1. Cryptos - I was first alerted to their rise around five years ago by an engaging fellow who, it has to be said, has done rather well out of them. I looked, considered, not for me.
As with any medium used as a form of currency, it's all about confidence and perception. I see on the tinterweb, many would-be speculators seeking advice on such investment fora as; their mates' Facebook pages. I am as in with ICT as I want to be, but I expect late adopters will get some fingers burned and after they do, then we can assess.
I was in Argentina in 2002 when it all went nipples north. At the time of departure of Blighty's fair shores in the February, the Peso and US dollar were on parity. Upon my arrival in the northern most part of the country several months later, it had slipped a tad to four pesos to the Dollar! With the pound being a monster in them there days, I could have bought the country with what I had in my wallet at the time.
Aside of it being a classic clusterfcuk for all the reasons we know/could predict; one thing arose in a town (name escapes me) that apparently, is still practiced today: bartering. Seemingly, Argentines in this town are not adverse to say, paying for a quick short back and sides in the form of a dozen eggs.
I would not be surprised if we saw this practice scale up going forward. Mrs PH makes a bloody good quiche if anyone is prepared to trade.
2. Universal Currency - As we know cash from parading around some northern provincial town on away days brandishing a large wad to order up in t'pub and then utter, 'keep the change darlin'' will end within five to ten years.
The US has taken some overt and covert actions to protect the Dollar as the petro-currency for some time. And they will continue to do so. As egotistical as he was, Chavez's demise was no surprise in view of his desire to more away from the Dollar. The US had and has identified the Iranian oil exchange as a an early target if/when they invade. No surprises to see the Saudis having a pop at our friends in Tehran and if that doesn't go soon, then it's only because NK will.
I think the Dollar will stay in place until such time as a) the US can control cyber-currency and/or b) the Chinese Renminbi surpasses it and the US will heel, to focus on control via central banks. If BTCs are to survive, then they will only do so if they stay out of the mainstream and that is not a given!
At the turn of the century, only Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba and North Korea did not have central banks. Cuba is going, and of those on the list, we've caused wars and regime change in all bar two: Iran and North Korea. The current Ronnie and Reggie of the global community.
So trouble is indeed brewing for those two. I suspect we will see something in those two countries soon and with it, the US Dollar will get a free ride for a few years and when the Chinese currency looks like taking control (that is assuming they want it to!) the cabal will either ensure they have the global banking community in their grip and/or, that they are in control of the new cyber-currency medium.
So I suggest that when you rub your eyes and look into the Hubble telescope, you'll see this: Rfosi rocking up to the City Ground as we search for our first win in 78 attempts, ordering several lagers (the fact of which will be kept on file at central insurance command to deny them funding for an operation they have paid premiums for ages because, they will be deemed drunkards) and paying for those beers by brandishing a microchipped finger, which contains our everything, and left uttering to the buxom AI robot of a barmaid, 'You look like the type of gal who'd like my digit as change!' to large guffaws all around.
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| Paradise Papers on 10:49 - Nov 9 with 2263 views | TheBlob |
| Paradise Papers on 04:56 - Nov 9 by PlanetHonneywood |
I nearly missed this.
Hubble "...You haven't directly responded to my assertion that crypto-currencies are another game changer, maybe underpinning the whole revolution. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on this. You talk about gold, and I understand your reasoning, but no one can ignore crypto-currencies any more. They are not going away.
Steve suggested earlier in this thread that nothing would change while the dollar remained the world's reserve currency. Well, not for much longer...."
1. Cryptos - I was first alerted to their rise around five years ago by an engaging fellow who, it has to be said, has done rather well out of them. I looked, considered, not for me.
As with any medium used as a form of currency, it's all about confidence and perception. I see on the tinterweb, many would-be speculators seeking advice on such investment fora as; their mates' Facebook pages. I am as in with ICT as I want to be, but I expect late adopters will get some fingers burned and after they do, then we can assess.
I was in Argentina in 2002 when it all went nipples north. At the time of departure of Blighty's fair shores in the February, the Peso and US dollar were on parity. Upon my arrival in the northern most part of the country several months later, it had slipped a tad to four pesos to the Dollar! With the pound being a monster in them there days, I could have bought the country with what I had in my wallet at the time.
Aside of it being a classic clusterfcuk for all the reasons we know/could predict; one thing arose in a town (name escapes me) that apparently, is still practiced today: bartering. Seemingly, Argentines in this town are not adverse to say, paying for a quick short back and sides in the form of a dozen eggs.
I would not be surprised if we saw this practice scale up going forward. Mrs PH makes a bloody good quiche if anyone is prepared to trade.
2. Universal Currency - As we know cash from parading around some northern provincial town on away days brandishing a large wad to order up in t'pub and then utter, 'keep the change darlin'' will end within five to ten years.
The US has taken some overt and covert actions to protect the Dollar as the petro-currency for some time. And they will continue to do so. As egotistical as he was, Chavez's demise was no surprise in view of his desire to more away from the Dollar. The US had and has identified the Iranian oil exchange as a an early target if/when they invade. No surprises to see the Saudis having a pop at our friends in Tehran and if that doesn't go soon, then it's only because NK will.
I think the Dollar will stay in place until such time as a) the US can control cyber-currency and/or b) the Chinese Renminbi surpasses it and the US will heel, to focus on control via central banks. If BTCs are to survive, then they will only do so if they stay out of the mainstream and that is not a given!
At the turn of the century, only Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba and North Korea did not have central banks. Cuba is going, and of those on the list, we've caused wars and regime change in all bar two: Iran and North Korea. The current Ronnie and Reggie of the global community.
So trouble is indeed brewing for those two. I suspect we will see something in those two countries soon and with it, the US Dollar will get a free ride for a few years and when the Chinese currency looks like taking control (that is assuming they want it to!) the cabal will either ensure they have the global banking community in their grip and/or, that they are in control of the new cyber-currency medium.
So I suggest that when you rub your eyes and look into the Hubble telescope, you'll see this: Rfosi rocking up to the City Ground as we search for our first win in 78 attempts, ordering several lagers (the fact of which will be kept on file at central insurance command to deny them funding for an operation they have paid premiums for ages because, they will be deemed drunkards) and paying for those beers by brandishing a microchipped finger, which contains our everything, and left uttering to the buxom AI robot of a barmaid, 'You look like the type of gal who'd like my digit as change!' to large guffaws all around.
Or, as they say over the border in Thailand: same, same but different. |
Beware the classic Pump And Dump. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 11:46 - Nov 9 with 2231 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Paradise Papers on 10:49 - Nov 9 by TheBlob |
Beware the classic Pump And Dump. |
Indeed. Remember the Gold Market in '79/80? |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 12:28 - Nov 9 with 2203 views | swisscottage |
| Paradise Papers on 18:13 - Nov 8 by SomersetHoops |
I heard the BBC Royal Correspondent say that both Prince Charles and the Queen consider their income from their "Duchys" are private income and the public have no right to know what they do with it. This is an absolute disgrace they hold this land and property based on their position subject to the agreement of the UK people and they hold it in trust and until those people decide they are no longer required. That can't come soon enough for me and I hope this example of their activity brings it sooner. |
You're confusing The Crown Estate with their private estates.
Even if to 'the people' rise up and replace the queen with an elected president at probably two to 3 times the ongoing cost of the current head of state, the royal family as private individuals will still own their hereditary private estates for which they probably have very little knowledge of the day to day running of. | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 12:42 - Nov 9 with 2190 views | TheBlob |
| Paradise Papers on 11:46 - Nov 9 by isawqpratwcity |
Indeed. Remember the Gold Market in '79/80? |
Yup.
Bitcoin is capitalised to around $119 b and where did that loot come from?
Sure as hell wasn't from old kunts like me with their winter fuel allowance payments.Institution money,and you could wake up one morning to find your arse well and truly wiped. | |
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| Paradise Papers on 12:49 - Nov 9 with 2181 views | hubble |
What, and you're not wary of fiat currencies Mr H?? Multi trillion debt bubbles, inflation, quantitative easing, rate fixing, and all the rest?
Don't forget crypto is in its infancy, plus it's digital, so we're seeing something equivalent to the adoption of gold as a global currency, except in super-compressed time. In some respects, it's still like the Wild West out there, so absolutely 'caveat emptor' applies. You'd be naive to go into crypto without bearing that in mind. Nevertheless, certain things are a given for the savvy adopter: you don't leave your currency in an exchange wallet if you're not actively trading on there. And you need to research your wallets carefully. There are plenty of secure wallets out there. I've been using the blockchain.info wallet since 2010. The new exodus.io wallet is excellent, making exchanging currencies very easy. Both include ethereum as well, and the exodus one a whole host more.
Bitcoin itself has never been hacked or corrupted, it's the exchanges that are the problem, usually because they haven't invested in strong enough security protocols. But for people who think all this is a bubble, I humbly suggest you think again. I point to my earlier post on this for some reasons why.
As for investing, I still think it's a great time to invest. Crypto-currencies are not going to go away. I think almost inevitably, they are the future of money. And for that reason I think bitcoin's ultimate value will be way, way higher than it is today. Yes, there will be spikes and troughs along the way. It's a volatile market.
Next week there was going to be another 'fork' - we've had two so far with bitcoin - first bitcoin cash - which went pretty smoothly - and then bitcoin gold, which is still having teething issues. The one next one - segwit2x - has been suspended. Interestingly, the price has remained relatively stable through all this. What's driving the upward curve in the price is the desire amongst people globally to get their savings out of fiat currency. With bank runs, inflation, super-low interest rates and currency controls, bitcoin and crypto are actually proving a far safer haven. [Post edited 9 Nov 2017 12:52]
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| Paradise Papers on 12:52 - Nov 9 with 2175 views | TheBlob |
| Paradise Papers on 12:49 - Nov 9 by hubble |
What, and you're not wary of fiat currencies Mr H?? Multi trillion debt bubbles, inflation, quantitative easing, rate fixing, and all the rest?
Don't forget crypto is in its infancy, plus it's digital, so we're seeing something equivalent to the adoption of gold as a global currency, except in super-compressed time. In some respects, it's still like the Wild West out there, so absolutely 'caveat emptor' applies. You'd be naive to go into crypto without bearing that in mind. Nevertheless, certain things are a given for the savvy adopter: you don't leave your currency in an exchange wallet if you're not actively trading on there. And you need to research your wallets carefully. There are plenty of secure wallets out there. I've been using the blockchain.info wallet since 2010. The new exodus.io wallet is excellent, making exchanging currencies very easy. Both include ethereum as well, and the exodus one a whole host more.
Bitcoin itself has never been hacked or corrupted, it's the exchanges that are the problem, usually because they haven't invested in strong enough security protocols. But for people who think all this is a bubble, I humbly suggest you think again. I point to my earlier post on this for some reasons why.
As for investing, I still think it's a great time to invest. Crypto-currencies are not going to go away. I think almost inevitably, they are the future of money. And for that reason I think bitcoin's ultimate value will be way, way higher than it is today. Yes, there will be spikes and troughs along the way. It's a volatile market.
Next week there was going to be another 'fork' - we've had two so far with bitcoin - first bitcoin cash - which went pretty smoothly - and then bitcoin gold, which is still having teething issues. The one next one - segwit2x - has been suspended. Interestingly, the price has remained relatively stable through all this. What's driving the upward curve in the price is the desire amongst people globally to get their savings out of fiat currency. With bank runs, inflation, super-low interest rates and currency controls, bitcoin and crypto are actually proving a far safer haven. [Post edited 9 Nov 2017 12:52]
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Litecoin.
It's like what silver is to gold in the bullion market. | |
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| Paradise Papers on 12:54 - Nov 9 with 2172 views | hubble |
| Paradise Papers on 12:52 - Nov 9 by TheBlob |
Litecoin.
It's like what silver is to gold in the bullion market. |
Litecoin is a good call. | |
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| Paradise Papers on 14:35 - Nov 9 with 2119 views | TheBlob |
The Rouble backed (gold backed) Russian Coin should be coming out soon.
Exchange for shares in oil and gas etc.
There's a tag team relationship between Russia and China going on - interesting developments in the offing. | |
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