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London tower block on fire 05:32 - Jun 14 with 85447 viewsSwansNZ

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40269625

Sounds like some people might be trapped.

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London tower block on fire on 17:13 - Jun 17 with 2623 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 16:59 - Jun 17 by trampie

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The 1970s documentary?

Some say that's 45 years or so ago.
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London tower block on fire on 17:13 - Jun 17 with 2619 viewsDarran

London tower block on fire on 17:13 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

The 1970s documentary?

Some say that's 45 years or so ago.



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London tower block on fire on 17:16 - Jun 17 with 2611 viewsWarwickHunt

London tower block on fire on 17:13 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

The 1970s documentary?

Some say that's 45 years or so ago.


You have to make allowances for Trampie - he gives simpletons a bad name.
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London tower block on fire on 17:18 - Jun 17 with 2604 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 17:16 - Jun 17 by WarwickHunt

You have to make allowances for Trampie - he gives simpletons a bad name.


I realise he's not hit the 21st century as yet, but I'd imagined he may be somewhere around 1985 or so. At which point the documentary would STILL have been 14 years old.
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London tower block on fire on 17:24 - Jun 17 with 2593 viewstrampie

London tower block on fire on 16:55 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

So what?

Andrew Marr was the running mate of Jon Lansman for the presidency of the Cambridge Union.


Real thing v association.

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London tower block on fire on 17:26 - Jun 17 with 2584 viewstrampie

London tower block on fire on 17:13 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

The 1970s documentary?

Some say that's 45 years or so ago.


Dimbleby still going on the Beeb.

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London tower block on fire on 17:29 - Jun 17 with 2573 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 17:24 - Jun 17 by trampie

Real thing v association.


It was a joint ticket.
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London tower block on fire on 17:32 - Jun 17 with 2557 viewsploppy

London tower block on fire on 16:59 - Jun 17 by trampie

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What this?



Cracking song. That was Dimbleby's idea?
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London tower block on fire on 18:39 - Jun 17 with 2500 viewsKulusBeatFactory

London tower block on fire on 10:57 - Jun 17 by Humpty

And?


it was live on bbc - it was embarrassing. V Derbyshire was lost for words

for u to question its relevance on this thread is plain daft
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London tower block on fire on 19:27 - Jun 17 with 2464 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Over 300 people missing

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London tower block on fire on 19:46 - Jun 17 with 2445 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 19:27 - Jun 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Over 300 people missing


Where are you getting that number from?
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London tower block on fire on 19:55 - Jun 17 with 2429 viewsBorojack

London tower block on fire on 19:46 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

Where are you getting that number from?


58 missing according to Sky News

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London tower block on fire on 20:22 - Jun 17 with 2403 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 19:55 - Jun 17 by Borojack

58 missing according to Sky News


Also according to the Met which is why I asked.
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London tower block on fire on 20:31 - Jun 17 with 2386 viewsEbo

This is how low people are getting. The definition of a tory c*nt


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London tower block on fire on 20:37 - Jun 17 with 2371 viewssherpajacob

London tower block on fire on 16:14 - Jun 17 by ploppy

Well, I'm sure you could provide links to support your side of the argument. Here's one (I know it's the Telegraph) that supports mine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10235967/BBC-is-biased-toward-


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Policy_Studies


Telegraph report a study by centre for policy studies which shows evidence of media bias.

Indeed it does.

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London tower block on fire on 20:40 - Jun 17 with 2360 viewsDarran

London tower block on fire on 20:31 - Jun 17 by Ebo

This is how low people are getting. The definition of a tory c*nt



There's equal filth coming from the left John I saw a post earlier where someone was saying because the owner of the cladding company had locked himself away in his mansion it should be set on fire with him inside because it would be poetic justice.

Utterly pathetic from the left and right.

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London tower block on fire on 20:43 - Jun 17 with 2356 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

London tower block on fire on 19:46 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

Where are you getting that number from?


My mate works up there for a London council,160 dead , not being reported , what's going on up there.

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London tower block on fire on 21:11 - Jun 17 with 2324 viewsFireboy2

London tower block on fire on 20:43 - Jun 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

My mate works up there for a London council,160 dead , not being reported , what's going on up there.


Can see why the real number hasn't been reported as there would be riots

And you can see why there would be riots
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London tower block on fire on 21:48 - Jun 17 with 2286 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 20:43 - Jun 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

My mate works up there for a London council,160 dead , not being reported , what's going on up there.


What do you mean what's going on up here?

The Met have a policy of only reporting confirmed numbers and not speculating but only saying 'it could be higher' which is what they have said. I'm not saying 160 is not true, but it's not confirmed which is why they are not reporting it.

And you said over 300?

As an aside, I can't imagine they are giving out information to people who work for a London council either.

Why can't people let the emergency services do their job?
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London tower block on fire on 21:51 - Jun 17 with 2273 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 21:11 - Jun 17 by Fireboy2

Can see why the real number hasn't been reported as there would be riots

And you can see why there would be riots


To be honest, the fact that we know c. 100 people have died is enough for any reaction. Extra people don't make it worse, as it couldn't be worse.

But you must know that the emergency services can't speculate.

They have a huge problem knowing the numbers involved, for obvious reasons. We may, sadly, never know.
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London tower block on fire on 22:03 - Jun 17 with 2251 viewsbonymine

London tower block on fire on 21:51 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001

To be honest, the fact that we know c. 100 people have died is enough for any reaction. Extra people don't make it worse, as it couldn't be worse.

But you must know that the emergency services can't speculate.

They have a huge problem knowing the numbers involved, for obvious reasons. We may, sadly, never know.


I think that the 'true' final number of fatalities/ identities here will NEVER be known.

So many people coming and going on the night of the fire as well as 'friends and family' staying overnight etc, the full extent of this will never be known.

All we should demand now is a commitment that something like this WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

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London tower block on fire on 22:10 - Jun 17 with 2230 viewslondonlisa2001

London tower block on fire on 22:03 - Jun 17 by bonymine

I think that the 'true' final number of fatalities/ identities here will NEVER be known.

So many people coming and going on the night of the fire as well as 'friends and family' staying overnight etc, the full extent of this will never be known.

All we should demand now is a commitment that something like this WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.


I actually think there's are a huge number of things that should be demanded, not least that the police are allowed to carry out a criminal investigation into what happened, from the works specified, done, checked. Were any laws broken. What laws need changing. Rehousing. Support. Inspection of every block in the U.K. Etc etc. Etc.

But I'm honestly not certain why some dont understand why the numbers are so difficult to ascertain. Particularly when it comes to the numbers of people missing.
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London tower block on fire on 22:19 - Jun 17 with 2194 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 20:43 - Jun 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

My mate works up there for a London council,160 dead , not being reported , what's going on up there.


Surely it's fairly obvious why the authorities will only deal in confirmed numbers and not chuck speculation out there for people and conspiracy theorists to chew over?

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London tower block on fire on 22:37 - Jun 17 with 2177 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

London tower block on fire on 22:19 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy

Surely it's fairly obvious why the authorities will only deal in confirmed numbers and not chuck speculation out there for people and conspiracy theorists to chew over?


I guess if you are from there you know what's going on

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London tower block on fire on 22:38 - Jun 17 with 2174 viewsexiledclaseboy

London tower block on fire on 22:37 - Jun 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

I guess if you are from there you know what's going on


I am not and I do not.and your premise isn't necessarily true.
[Post edited 17 Jun 2017 22:38]

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