| Retain / release 18:24 - Apr 25 with 8453 views | yogibear_412 |
Don't care if it's not end of season or not in the "support the boys" camp. Wheels need to start turning soon for next season. Obv some can't be released with contracts - I understand that. Just looking at longer term goals.
Keepers - retain
Full backs - clear out - start again
Centre backs -
Williams - retain
Fernandez - back up retain
Amat - let him go he's wasted here
Bartley - release
Midfield -
Cork - release
Siggy - retain
Ki - release
Grimes - release
Montero - retain
Barrow - retain
Leon - retain as custodian of identity and values
Routledge - release
Fer - release
Emnes - release
Dyer - release
Strikers
Gomis - release
Eder - release
Poloschi - retain
Quite surprised at how many I'd be looking to move on.
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| Retain / release on 22:23 - Apr 25 with 1924 views | exiledinenglandjack |
| Retain / release on 19:49 - Apr 25 by A_Fans_Dad |
I would keep Emnes as his wages are not very high and he can cover 3 positions, assuming he would want to stay and not play most of the time. |
I think he's on something like £22k a week, which is a crazy amount considering how little he plays | | | |
| Retain / release on 22:38 - Apr 25 with 1889 views | Sheffieldjack |
| Retain / release on 22:23 - Apr 25 by exiledinenglandjack |
I think he's on something like £22k a week, which is a crazy amount considering how little he plays |
Although I agree on the need for a clear out, we also need some realism. I would differ with your list and keep - Taylor, Ki, Amat, Cork, Grimes, Routledge.
I'm afraid that I can't find room for Leon. | | | |
| Retain / release on 23:03 - Apr 25 with 1863 views | Kilkennyjack |
Got to be brave. The more we release then the more funds are freed up for new players. Thats essential.
I would go buy King from ballsmouth as a starter.
I would keep Marvellous Marvin.
We need new blood. Many of the current squad would not get in any other premier league squad. |  |
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| Retain / release on 09:18 - Apr 26 with 1785 views | jasper_T |
| Retain / release on 19:09 - Apr 25 by yescomeon |
Like I said it is mostly due to the amount of players that need replacing. I think yeah full back is a priority but we aren't going to offload 4 fullbacks and buy 4 more. At right back we have no young player pushing for a place like Kingsley, therefore I would keep Rangel as backup, plus I think he might have something to offer as a coach in years to come, don't care if I never see Naughton in a swans shirt, not a prem player for me. Left back is more complicated we could keep one of Taylor or Tabanou and have Kingsley as back up, personally this is what I would do and I would go for Taylor, this would give more money to spend further up the pitch where I think the real problems are. Cork is limited but I see enough to keep him, especially if most of the rest of the midfield is to be offloaded. If Amat is happy to bide his time then we should take advantage of that, if a decent play is ok to wait his turn then that is good for us, we won't get a better back up centre half imo. Grimes, I'm not too fussed over, he is still young enough to develop more as a player and again midfield would be thread-bare if all the players you suggested above were released.
In short, the names I mentioned we should retain are more to do with lack of other options rather than them being too good to let go. |
Connor Roberts has done very well at Yeovil and has the potential to step up given time.
I had hopes for Liam Shephard but he's not pushed on since last season, and didn't look like much against Oxford. | | | |
| Retain / release on 09:31 - Apr 26 with 1775 views | dna |
Why on earth would anyone want to keep Emnes!!???
Cork as a defensive midfielder is fine.
I don't see Paloschi doing anything other than running around like a headless chicken (Paul Raynor??) |  | | |
| Retain / release on 09:37 - Apr 26 with 1771 views | jasper_T |
| Retain / release on 09:31 - Apr 26 by dna |
Why on earth would anyone want to keep Emnes!!???
Cork as a defensive midfielder is fine.
I don't see Paloschi doing anything other than running around like a headless chicken (Paul Raynor??) |
He was very effective doing that against Chelsea. Shame about the other games.
Needs to play on the shoulder more, stretching the play instead of dropping off into midfield. | | | |
| Retain / release on 09:45 - Apr 26 with 1768 views | WarwickHunt |
| Retain / release on 23:03 - Apr 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Got to be brave. The more we release then the more funds are freed up for new players. Thats essential.
I would go buy King from ballsmouth as a starter.
I would keep Marvellous Marvin.
We need new blood. Many of the current squad would not get in any other premier league squad. |
Yet you'd keep Emnes...
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| Retain / release on 10:27 - Apr 26 with 1734 views | Darran |
The biggest question of all is who's going to be making the decisions? |  |
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| Retain / release on 10:28 - Apr 26 with 1733 views | Legend83 |
| Retain / release on 09:18 - Apr 26 by jasper_T |
Connor Roberts has done very well at Yeovil and has the potential to step up given time.
I had hopes for Liam Shephard but he's not pushed on since last season, and didn't look like much against Oxford. |
Aaron Lewis is still young but have heard very promising things - he has stepped up from u-18s to u-21s seamlessly.
Rodon also has a chance to become a homegrown back-up CB at the minimum. | | | |
| Retain / release on 11:29 - Apr 26 with 1705 views | jasper_T |
| Retain / release on 10:28 - Apr 26 by Legend83 |
Aaron Lewis is still young but have heard very promising things - he has stepped up from u-18s to u-21s seamlessly.
Rodon also has a chance to become a homegrown back-up CB at the minimum. |
Aaron Lewis has had to step up with both our u21 right-backs (and Danny Alfei lol) out on loan, but he's done well and seems very capable for his age.
With Rodon it's hard to tell, as our defence at that level isn't very good, and what little investment we've made into youth defenders has been extremely poor. He and Keston Davies play because there aren't any other options (Kingsley played there a bit but obviously we want him developing as a left-back).
As you say, though, he's definitely got a chance to develop well. | | | |
| Retain / release on 11:33 - Apr 26 with 1699 views | Legend83 |
| Retain / release on 11:29 - Apr 26 by jasper_T |
Aaron Lewis has had to step up with both our u21 right-backs (and Danny Alfei lol) out on loan, but he's done well and seems very capable for his age.
With Rodon it's hard to tell, as our defence at that level isn't very good, and what little investment we've made into youth defenders has been extremely poor. He and Keston Davies play because there aren't any other options (Kingsley played there a bit but obviously we want him developing as a left-back).
As you say, though, he's definitely got a chance to develop well. |
Jasper do you attend the u-21 games? Only ask as every report I read suggest Rodon stands out as being an excellent prospect. This may not necessarily be the case - I haven't seem him with my own eyes to make an opinion. | | | |
| Retain / release on 12:02 - Apr 26 with 1687 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Retain / release on 10:27 - Apr 26 by Darran |
The biggest question of all is who's going to be making the decisions? |
JVZ fancies the gig. |  |
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| Retain / release on 12:06 - Apr 26 with 1683 views | karnataka |
I can't see us being able to release 12 players and replace them all with better in a relatively short period of time but hopefully we wouldn't need to. Quite a few of the players who have been poor by their own standards this season have played well in much better Swans sides than we've seen this season and that is down to the manager's tactics and the shape he prefers and shoehorning unsuited players into it. Hopefully, next season's manager, whoever that may be, would be able to improve overall standards to a level where formerly decent players can flourish again by bringing in a few top class players in key positions so that the team can start to play proper football again.
Admittedly, those getting towards the latter stages of their careers like Britton, Rangel, Williams and maybe Routledge can't be sure of starting places any more but would still be useful and experienced backup as well as providing a thread of team/club continuity provided we do have better in those positions. I know Williams has been crucified for Saturday's display and rightly so, but overall this season, he's been immense and isn't finished yet. |  | | |
| Retain / release on 13:02 - Apr 26 with 1635 views | jasper_T |
| Retain / release on 11:33 - Apr 26 by Legend83 |
Jasper do you attend the u-21 games? Only ask as every report I read suggest Rodon stands out as being an excellent prospect. This may not necessarily be the case - I haven't seem him with my own eyes to make an opinion. |
I don't get to many games (since they play on Mondays, mostly), but try to follow the youth teams as best I can.
He's young, playing at a good level, and it may be that I'm being unfair to the lad. But it's not a position in which he faces much competition, and teams come away from Landore not as impressed with our defending as other aspects of our game.
To quibble over semantics, I consider him a good prospect rather than a great one. | | | |
| Retain / release on 14:27 - Apr 26 with 1581 views | DafyddHuw |
Ask Siggy how much we can give him to stay. The rest can do one. |  | | |
| Retain / release on 15:14 - Apr 26 with 1454 views | jack247 |
Pretty much everyone is up for consideration at this stage, even the few that we are desperate to retain are the ones likely to tempt the biggest bids.
I'd imagine we will have a maximum 5 or 6 leaving and the same amount of new faces. That would be a pretty drastic amount given the way we normally do our business, but it's achingly obvious we need to shake up, rather than tinker with the first team squad this summer. | | | |
| Retain / release on 16:41 - Apr 26 with 1419 views | Private_Partz |
| Retain / release on 10:27 - Apr 26 by Darran |
The biggest question of all is who's going to be making the decisions? |
Spot on. We need to make our mind up on who the new manager is for next season. I suppose we have to wait for mathematical safety in the first instance.
We can't start shipping out and bringing in at this stage. Unless Frankie gets the gig and we can start getting prepared for this now.
A new manager will almost certainly want to look at the whole squad when he arrives. |  |
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| Retain / release on 18:15 - Apr 27 with 1347 views | Al_Bundy |
| Retain / release on 19:49 - Apr 25 by A_Fans_Dad |
I would keep Emnes as his wages are not very high and he can cover 3 positions, assuming he would want to stay and not play most of the time. |
You would keep a 30 something journey man because he's cheap.
Its that sort of logic is where its got us now !! | | | |
| Retain / release on 19:14 - Apr 27 with 1314 views | tomdickharry |
There is a ready made right back at Hull who we should go for if of course they are not promoted,Moses Obubajo,tremendous young player who can play right wing back as well as full back.
Another diamond in the Championship is Stuart Dallas of Leeds,left wing back or midfield.
Both of the above are players in their early/mid 20's with plenty of spring in their legs as well as talent and wouldn't cost the earth. | | | |
| Retain / release on 19:28 - Apr 27 with 1307 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Retain / release on 18:15 - Apr 27 by Al_Bundy |
You would keep a 30 something journey man because he's cheap.
Its that sort of logic is where its got us now !! |
So you are prepared to splash out more cash, that cpould be used for the first team to get someone in who is better than him so they can polish the Bench, or sit in the clubhouse instead and probably only cover one of the positions Emnes plays in?
ps he will be 28 this May. [Post edited 27 Apr 2016 19:40]
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| Retain / release on 19:32 - Apr 27 with 1302 views | Dr_Winston |
There's more ability in our squad than many are allowing, although we could certainly do with a bit of freshening up. Wholesale changes to the playing staff would cause more disruption than it's worth. Five or six first teamers in, five or six out. The rest to drop into reserve.
More important to get the best manager we can in post and just let him get on with the job. Leicester have shown everyone this season that a well coached team with a solid plan can outperform many teams with "better" players. Hell, we did it often enough ourselves until insanity set in.
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| Retain / release on 19:47 - Apr 27 with 1280 views | jack247 |
| Retain / release on 19:28 - Apr 27 by A_Fans_Dad |
So you are prepared to splash out more cash, that cpould be used for the first team to get someone in who is better than him so they can polish the Bench, or sit in the clubhouse instead and probably only cover one of the positions Emnes plays in?
ps he will be 28 this May. [Post edited 27 Apr 2016 19:40]
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There are arguments both ways on this one. Laudrup liked a small squad, almost all of whom are in first team contention. I think Mourinho has done something similar. Most managers prefer strength in depth, I can certainly see the logic in having one or two cheap and versatile squad players, even if they are hardly ever going to play. | | | |
| Retain / release on 20:43 - Apr 27 with 1250 views | jasper_T |
| Retain / release on 19:14 - Apr 27 by tomdickharry |
There is a ready made right back at Hull who we should go for if of course they are not promoted,Moses Obubajo,tremendous young player who can play right wing back as well as full back.
Another diamond in the Championship is Stuart Dallas of Leeds,left wing back or midfield.
Both of the above are players in their early/mid 20's with plenty of spring in their legs as well as talent and wouldn't cost the earth. |
Have you seen how much Championship players go for these days? You'd get two for one (at least) shopping in La Liga. | | | |
| Retain / release on 21:29 - Apr 27 with 1220 views | Al_Bundy |
| Retain / release on 19:28 - Apr 27 by A_Fans_Dad |
So you are prepared to splash out more cash, that cpould be used for the first team to get someone in who is better than him so they can polish the Bench, or sit in the clubhouse instead and probably only cover one of the positions Emnes plays in?
ps he will be 28 this May. [Post edited 27 Apr 2016 19:40]
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He rarely plays and has limited bench appearances .. no criteria to keep him I'm afraid
Our main problem is lack of squad depth and quality. Emnes for me does not fit .
We have Routledge than can do what Emnes does so there's your squad player for the bench [Post edited 27 Apr 2016 21:30]
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| Retain / release on 21:40 - Apr 27 with 1197 views | Al_Bundy |
Our core or spine down the middle is quite weak -
Fabianski - I rate him as a keeper but doesn't command his box
Fed & Ash - both have limited distribution unless it passed sideways , both are poor in air and Fed is a liability all round . Ash athleticism gets him out of jail and still retains enough pace. I would look to get another CB in for sure
Centre Mid - Fer , not seen a decent away match performance out of him yet , Cork is limited , Leon sadly is passed it , Ki is to inconsistent , Siggy gives us quality at the top end
Up Front - Gomis needs no explanation , Paloschi cannot lead the line in premier league and Emnes is just not the answer either.
The spine of the team currently just isn't good enough. | | | |
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