| Oldham 22:18 - Oct 29 with 35562 views | DomDale |
According to their site sold 2,3k out of 3k allocation already which is bloody good going and will make for a good atmosphere.
What has made me laugh is this thread on their forum : http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46060-rochdale/page-9
I thought they didn't care about us? (I certainly have no ill feeling towards them) Their "ultras" section seemingly planning on making some anti-Dale banners  |  |
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| Oldham on 10:06 - Nov 5 with 4102 views | nordenblue |
| Oldham on 09:32 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
you have played Bradford, Preston, Bristol City and Barnsley at home, all of who will have brought decent followings. That will certainly have driven up your average, the only team we have played who brought anything over 1000 was Bradford(and they only mustered 1500).
Review the average at the end of the season and then see if there is a 300 difference...
Its also laughable that in this thread you call us tinpot, yet in a thread 3 or 4 below this you refer to this current Rochdale side as your best ever. Ill settle for being tinpot with league cup finals, fa cup semi-finals and being premier league founder members. |
Im sure the ref will give you a goal start due to your history and superiority,its all relevant in November 2014 |  | | |
| Oldham on 10:18 - Nov 5 with 4067 views | aleanddale |
| Oldham on 09:32 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
you have played Bradford, Preston, Bristol City and Barnsley at home, all of who will have brought decent followings. That will certainly have driven up your average, the only team we have played who brought anything over 1000 was Bradford(and they only mustered 1500).
Review the average at the end of the season and then see if there is a 300 difference...
Its also laughable that in this thread you call us tinpot, yet in a thread 3 or 4 below this you refer to this current Rochdale side as your best ever. Ill settle for being tinpot with league cup finals, fa cup semi-finals and being premier league founder members. |
OA85
Oldhams Messageboard thread on banners is Tin Pot
your contribution to date is Tin Pot.
This is like another bURY Pail!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have no illusion we are delighted with our lofty heady heights and know full well we are punching well above our weight and natural pecking order.
You however!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | | |
| Oldham on 10:26 - Nov 5 with 4041 views | oa85 |
at no point have I stated we will beat you... im just making the point that you calling us tinpot is very much a case of the pot and the kettle...
as it goes the banner idea is ridiculous, and just a load of kids getting excited.
Does this game mean more to us than you? probably, yes. But we haven't had a proper derby game we can call our own for a long time, Huddersfield are now an established Championship club so the rivalry we had with them has gone, the tranmere rivalry went stale when Ronnie and Ian left.
There is potential for Rochdale and Oldham to become a derby, if you stick in league one for a few years of course, however I can understand you have nothing against us atm seeming as we rarely play each other because your are a league below us most of the time. | | | |
| Oldham on 10:38 - Nov 5 with 3996 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 10:26 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
at no point have I stated we will beat you... im just making the point that you calling us tinpot is very much a case of the pot and the kettle...
as it goes the banner idea is ridiculous, and just a load of kids getting excited.
Does this game mean more to us than you? probably, yes. But we haven't had a proper derby game we can call our own for a long time, Huddersfield are now an established Championship club so the rivalry we had with them has gone, the tranmere rivalry went stale when Ronnie and Ian left.
There is potential for Rochdale and Oldham to become a derby, if you stick in league one for a few years of course, however I can understand you have nothing against us atm seeming as we rarely play each other because your are a league below us most of the time. |
It means more as it's away. Out home support won't increase on the back of us playing Dale in the return fixture. | | | |
| Oldham on 10:58 - Nov 5 with 3921 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 10:26 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
at no point have I stated we will beat you... im just making the point that you calling us tinpot is very much a case of the pot and the kettle...
as it goes the banner idea is ridiculous, and just a load of kids getting excited.
Does this game mean more to us than you? probably, yes. But we haven't had a proper derby game we can call our own for a long time, Huddersfield are now an established Championship club so the rivalry we had with them has gone, the tranmere rivalry went stale when Ronnie and Ian left.
There is potential for Rochdale and Oldham to become a derby, if you stick in league one for a few years of course, however I can understand you have nothing against us atm seeming as we rarely play each other because your are a league below us most of the time. |
It means more as it's away. Out home support won't increase on the back of us playing Dale in the return fixture. | | | |
| Oldham on 12:44 - Nov 5 with 3787 views | TVOS1907 |
| Oldham on 09:32 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
you have played Bradford, Preston, Bristol City and Barnsley at home, all of who will have brought decent followings. That will certainly have driven up your average, the only team we have played who brought anything over 1000 was Bradford(and they only mustered 1500).
Review the average at the end of the season and then see if there is a 300 difference...
Its also laughable that in this thread you call us tinpot, yet in a thread 3 or 4 below this you refer to this current Rochdale side as your best ever. Ill settle for being tinpot with league cup finals, fa cup semi-finals and being premier league founder members. |
You're not getting it, are you?
The tinpot comment was solely aimed at those making the banners, nothing else. Even some of your own fans agree with us on that.
As for the crowds, the difference in average attendances may well finish more than 300; it should do as you are a bigger club than us with more fans. Nobody has disputed that, so what's all the cock waving about regarding attendances?
I know you've been to the League Cup Final (so have we, tbf) and FA Cup semi-finals. I was there at Wembley v Forest in 1990 and I was there at Maine Road when Mark Robins knocked you out of the FA Cup.
When Latics where at their peak in the late-1980s/early-1990s, under Joe Royle I saw a lot of your games. I had a girlfriend who was an Oldham fan and went to a few games when Dale weren't playing.
Why? Because I love watching football, but because it was cheap to get in and the games were often well worth the admission money to a neutral.
Back then you used to get five figure crowds on a regular basis. Where have they all gone? Instead of coming on here trying to win an argument you've already won, perhaps you should be asking where the extra 8-9000 who used to watch you back then have gone.
And please don't use the three-sided ground/in League One for years argument because it doesn't wash.
Oxford United, for example, have a three-sided ground, have been in non-league football and are struggling in League 2, but still attract crowds bigger than both of us.
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in. |  |
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| Oldham on 12:52 - Nov 5 with 3774 views | judd |
| Oldham on 12:44 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
You're not getting it, are you?
The tinpot comment was solely aimed at those making the banners, nothing else. Even some of your own fans agree with us on that.
As for the crowds, the difference in average attendances may well finish more than 300; it should do as you are a bigger club than us with more fans. Nobody has disputed that, so what's all the cock waving about regarding attendances?
I know you've been to the League Cup Final (so have we, tbf) and FA Cup semi-finals. I was there at Wembley v Forest in 1990 and I was there at Maine Road when Mark Robins knocked you out of the FA Cup.
When Latics where at their peak in the late-1980s/early-1990s, under Joe Royle I saw a lot of your games. I had a girlfriend who was an Oldham fan and went to a few games when Dale weren't playing.
Why? Because I love watching football, but because it was cheap to get in and the games were often well worth the admission money to a neutral.
Back then you used to get five figure crowds on a regular basis. Where have they all gone? Instead of coming on here trying to win an argument you've already won, perhaps you should be asking where the extra 8-9000 who used to watch you back then have gone.
And please don't use the three-sided ground/in League One for years argument because it doesn't wash.
Oxford United, for example, have a three-sided ground, have been in non-league football and are struggling in League 2, but still attract crowds bigger than both of us.
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in. |
Or Premier Leagues you've founded.
Arf! |  |
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| Oldham on 12:53 - Nov 5 with 3771 views | DevonDale |
| Oldham on 12:44 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
You're not getting it, are you?
The tinpot comment was solely aimed at those making the banners, nothing else. Even some of your own fans agree with us on that.
As for the crowds, the difference in average attendances may well finish more than 300; it should do as you are a bigger club than us with more fans. Nobody has disputed that, so what's all the cock waving about regarding attendances?
I know you've been to the League Cup Final (so have we, tbf) and FA Cup semi-finals. I was there at Wembley v Forest in 1990 and I was there at Maine Road when Mark Robins knocked you out of the FA Cup.
When Latics where at their peak in the late-1980s/early-1990s, under Joe Royle I saw a lot of your games. I had a girlfriend who was an Oldham fan and went to a few games when Dale weren't playing.
Why? Because I love watching football, but because it was cheap to get in and the games were often well worth the admission money to a neutral.
Back then you used to get five figure crowds on a regular basis. Where have they all gone? Instead of coming on here trying to win an argument you've already won, perhaps you should be asking where the extra 8-9000 who used to watch you back then have gone.
And please don't use the three-sided ground/in League One for years argument because it doesn't wash.
Oxford United, for example, have a three-sided ground, have been in non-league football and are struggling in League 2, but still attract crowds bigger than both of us.
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in. |
Rant over!!!
I love the last paragraph in summary. | | | |
| Oldham on 12:59 - Nov 5 with 3754 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 12:44 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
You're not getting it, are you?
The tinpot comment was solely aimed at those making the banners, nothing else. Even some of your own fans agree with us on that.
As for the crowds, the difference in average attendances may well finish more than 300; it should do as you are a bigger club than us with more fans. Nobody has disputed that, so what's all the cock waving about regarding attendances?
I know you've been to the League Cup Final (so have we, tbf) and FA Cup semi-finals. I was there at Wembley v Forest in 1990 and I was there at Maine Road when Mark Robins knocked you out of the FA Cup.
When Latics where at their peak in the late-1980s/early-1990s, under Joe Royle I saw a lot of your games. I had a girlfriend who was an Oldham fan and went to a few games when Dale weren't playing.
Why? Because I love watching football, but because it was cheap to get in and the games were often well worth the admission money to a neutral.
Back then you used to get five figure crowds on a regular basis. Where have they all gone? Instead of coming on here trying to win an argument you've already won, perhaps you should be asking where the extra 8-9000 who used to watch you back then have gone.
And please don't use the three-sided ground/in League One for years argument because it doesn't wash.
Oxford United, for example, have a three-sided ground, have been in non-league football and are struggling in League 2, but still attract crowds bigger than both of us.
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in. |
Oxford have been down then up, massive difference. We've been in the same division for 20 years. If you don't think the monotony of playing the same teams year in and year out affects the number of people willing to part with 20 odd quid (without either a promotion or relegation to change things a bit) I reckon you're missing the point.
If and buts, but I've no doubt our crowds would've been higher had we at any point been a League 2 club challenging at the right end of the table. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:50]
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| Oldham on 13:01 - Nov 5 with 3746 views | judd |
| Oldham on 12:59 - Nov 5 by SympatheticTic |
Oxford have been down then up, massive difference. We've been in the same division for 20 years. If you don't think the monotony of playing the same teams year in and year out affects the number of people willing to part with 20 odd quid (without either a promotion or relegation to change things a bit) I reckon you're missing the point.
If and buts, but I've no doubt our crowds would've been higher had we at any point been a League 2 club challenging at the right end of the table. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:50]
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Try 40 years in the same division. | |
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| Oldham on 13:04 - Nov 5 with 3734 views | 100notout |
| Oldham on 12:59 - Nov 5 by SympatheticTic |
Oxford have been down then up, massive difference. We've been in the same division for 20 years. If you don't think the monotony of playing the same teams year in and year out affects the number of people willing to part with 20 odd quid (without either a promotion or relegation to change things a bit) I reckon you're missing the point.
If and buts, but I've no doubt our crowds would've been higher had we at any point been a League 2 club challenging at the right end of the table. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:50]
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Is League One now known as "The Oldham Division"? | |
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| Oldham on 13:07 - Nov 5 with 3723 views | judd |
| Oldham on 13:04 - Nov 5 by 100notout |
Is League One now known as "The Oldham Division"? |
No, because there's more than 3 sides in it. | |
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| Oldham on 14:20 - Nov 5 with 3617 views | TVOS1907 |
| Oldham on 12:59 - Nov 5 by SympatheticTic |
Oxford have been down then up, massive difference. We've been in the same division for 20 years. If you don't think the monotony of playing the same teams year in and year out affects the number of people willing to part with 20 odd quid (without either a promotion or relegation to change things a bit) I reckon you're missing the point.
If and buts, but I've no doubt our crowds would've been higher had we at any point been a League 2 club challenging at the right end of the table. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:50]
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No, I think you're missing the point. | |
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| Oldham on 14:23 - Nov 5 with 3616 views | aleanddale |
| Oldham on 12:44 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
You're not getting it, are you?
The tinpot comment was solely aimed at those making the banners, nothing else. Even some of your own fans agree with us on that.
As for the crowds, the difference in average attendances may well finish more than 300; it should do as you are a bigger club than us with more fans. Nobody has disputed that, so what's all the cock waving about regarding attendances?
I know you've been to the League Cup Final (so have we, tbf) and FA Cup semi-finals. I was there at Wembley v Forest in 1990 and I was there at Maine Road when Mark Robins knocked you out of the FA Cup.
When Latics where at their peak in the late-1980s/early-1990s, under Joe Royle I saw a lot of your games. I had a girlfriend who was an Oldham fan and went to a few games when Dale weren't playing.
Why? Because I love watching football, but because it was cheap to get in and the games were often well worth the admission money to a neutral.
Back then you used to get five figure crowds on a regular basis. Where have they all gone? Instead of coming on here trying to win an argument you've already won, perhaps you should be asking where the extra 8-9000 who used to watch you back then have gone.
And please don't use the three-sided ground/in League One for years argument because it doesn't wash.
Oxford United, for example, have a three-sided ground, have been in non-league football and are struggling in League 2, but still attract crowds bigger than both of us.
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in. |
At this moment in time, like it or not, we are virtual equals on the playing field. That's what will win points on 29th November and 3rd January, not how many banners you've got, not how many McDonald's you've got, not how many stands you've got and not how many FA Cup semi-finals you've played in.
Quite brilliantly put TVOS!! he he. | | | |
| Oldham on 15:40 - Nov 5 with 3544 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 14:20 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
No, I think you're missing the point. |
OK. You win. Nowt more tinpot than having a second team anyway (which it appears you had in the early 90's). | | | |
| Oldham on 16:00 - Nov 5 with 3498 views | TVOS1907 |
| Oldham on 15:40 - Nov 5 by SympatheticTic |
OK. You win. Nowt more tinpot than having a second team anyway (which it appears you had in the early 90's). |
Arf. Is that your best effort?
Read it again.
I, along with many football fans in the 80s and 90s, used to watch plenty of football around the country as a neutral because it was affordable and a chance to tick-off new grounds.
Now it's gone beyond that with sky high ticket prices, ridiculous pre-paid ticket systems and three-sided grounds that clearly put people off! | |
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| Oldham on 16:29 - Nov 5 with 3442 views | BigKindo |
| Oldham on 10:26 - Nov 5 by oa85 |
at no point have I stated we will beat you... im just making the point that you calling us tinpot is very much a case of the pot and the kettle...
as it goes the banner idea is ridiculous, and just a load of kids getting excited.
Does this game mean more to us than you? probably, yes. But we haven't had a proper derby game we can call our own for a long time, Huddersfield are now an established Championship club so the rivalry we had with them has gone, the tranmere rivalry went stale when Ronnie and Ian left.
There is potential for Rochdale and Oldham to become a derby, if you stick in league one for a few years of course, however I can understand you have nothing against us atm seeming as we rarely play each other because your are a league below us most of the time. |
You are, of course, assuming that you will remain in Divn. One. neither being relegated nor promoted? |  | | |
| Oldham on 07:04 - Nov 6 with 3176 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 16:00 - Nov 5 by TVOS1907 |
Arf. Is that your best effort?
Read it again.
I, along with many football fans in the 80s and 90s, used to watch plenty of football around the country as a neutral because it was affordable and a chance to tick-off new grounds.
Now it's gone beyond that with sky high ticket prices, ridiculous pre-paid ticket systems and three-sided grounds that clearly put people off! |
Nipping over to watch Oldham at BP is one thing, travelling down to London for finals is another (dare I say it, glory hunting). Tinpot | | | |
| Oldham on 07:21 - Nov 6 with 3159 views | TVOS1907 |
| Oldham on 07:04 - Nov 6 by SympatheticTic |
Nipping over to watch Oldham at BP is one thing, travelling down to London for finals is another (dare I say it, glory hunting). Tinpot |
I know, I even thought of making a banner about it. | |
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| Oldham on 09:35 - Nov 6 with 3075 views | SympatheticTic |
| Oldham on 07:21 - Nov 6 by TVOS1907 |
I know, I even thought of making a banner about it. |
Make it really big. Plenty of seats in Spotland to rest it on | | | |
| Oldham on 10:08 - Nov 6 with 3039 views | TVOS1907 |
| Oldham on 09:35 - Nov 6 by SympatheticTic |
Make it really big. Plenty of seats in Spotland to rest it on |
There's no banner material left in the area. It's all been bought by Oldham fans.
Anyway, like I said, cock-waving about attendances.
At the last count, you were about the sixth worst supported team in League 1. It's obviously upsetting you to only have tiny clubs like Dale, Crawley, Fleetwood, Colchester and Scunthorpe below you in that particular table.
The winners on 29th November will still only get three points, though, unless you know of a new rule. | |
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| Oldham on 21:01 - Nov 6 with 2770 views | mightydale |
| Oldham on 09:35 - Nov 6 by SympatheticTic |
Make it really big. Plenty of seats in Spotland to rest it on |
I forgot Oldham ground is full every home game, Anyway thought city and united were your rivals and not little old Rochdale. How the Mighty have fallen |  |
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| Oldham on 21:57 - Nov 6 with 2692 views | nordenblue |
| Oldham on 09:35 - Nov 6 by SympatheticTic |
Make it really big. Plenty of seats in Spotland to rest it on |
Maybe if we made it really big we could lay it down one of the sides of your ground perhaps? | | | |
| Oldham on 06:41 - Nov 7 with 2556 views | DomDale |
| Oldham on 09:35 - Nov 6 by SympatheticTic |
Make it really big. Plenty of seats in Spotland to rest it on |
Rochdale's current home average of 3776 leaves 6473 empty spaces (remember we're not in a fancy new all seater stadium like BP)
Oldham's 4078 leaves 6560 empty seats (Although you only have three completed stands, they are all seater).
As BP has in the region of 1500-2000 more seats installed than Spotland I would say Oldhams empty seat epidemic is worse than Dale's. You're also about to install a new 2000 seat stand. Based on current crowds you could be looking at 8000 empty seats to our 4,500.
You might want to make some more banners for home.
Thanks.
It's alright this billy big bollox crowd counting stuff. I see why Bratfud do it ;). | |
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