| Ched Evans 15:32 - Apr 20 with 3521 views | The_Ballboy |
This is the truth, apparently alleged, but he's been found rapping. |  | | |  |
| Ched Evans on 15:37 - Apr 20 with 3495 views | lurker |
I am sure the 19yr old girl he raped will find this hilarious.
PS: 5 years is not enough. He will be out in half that and playing for Notts County, no doubt! |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 15:37 - Apr 20 with 3482 views | fitzochris |
I bet he isn't as good as Snoop Doggy Dogg. |  |
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| Ched Evans on 15:40 - Apr 20 with 3452 views | The_Ballboy |
| Ched Evans on 15:37 - Apr 20 by lurker |
I am sure the 19yr old girl he raped will find this hilarious.
PS: 5 years is not enough. He will be out in half that and playing for Notts County, no doubt! |
Wow, I do one P too many and I'm jumped on.
Soz - my bad pal. | | | |
| Ched Evans on 16:39 - Apr 20 with 3312 views | borodale4 |
I wonder how much detail has been released of this. Granted I haven't been following the case but Clayton McDonald who also had sex with her has been found not guilty? |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 16:43 - Apr 20 with 3296 views | The_Ballboy |
Yep.
Only Evans going down. | | | |
| Ched Evans on 16:45 - Apr 20 with 3284 views | SuddenLad |
| Ched Evans on 16:39 - Apr 20 by borodale4 |
I wonder how much detail has been released of this. Granted I haven't been following the case but Clayton McDonald who also had sex with her has been found not guilty? |
That's juries for you. Both admit having sex, both deny it was rape. The jury find one guilty and clear the other defendant.
However, without having heard any of the evidence it is difficult to make any useful suggestion.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sheffield-united/9216963/Sheffie |  |
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| Ched Evans on 16:56 - Apr 20 with 3240 views | Bobbyjoe |
Got any better suggestions than juries, SL? Star Chamber, perhaps? |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 16:57 - Apr 20 with 3231 views | Ralphs12 |
How does Clayton Mac walk away from this, surely he was there when CE was commiting the rape and just did nothing? or did he leave when Ched arrived.
Either way vile human being! |  | | |
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| Ched Evans on 17:05 - Apr 20 with 3195 views | SuddenLad |
| Ched Evans on 16:56 - Apr 20 by Bobbyjoe |
Got any better suggestions than juries, SL? Star Chamber, perhaps? |
In no way were my comments meant as a criticism of the jury system BJ, nor would I advocate a change to the system that has served us well, in the main, for 800 years.
I merely made an observation about their sometimes apparently 'eccentric' collective decisions.
As I said, I haven't been privy to any of the evidence, so it's difficult to comment on the verdict, other than the manner in which it has been reported, which, of course, aims to sell newspapers. | |
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| Ched Evans on 19:19 - Apr 20 with 3010 views | PDIDDY |
| Ched Evans on 15:37 - Apr 20 by fitzochris |
I bet he isn't as good as Snoop Doggy Dogg. |
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| Ched Evans on 19:53 - Apr 20 with 2967 views | Shun |
| Ched Evans on 16:57 - Apr 20 by Ralphs12 |
How does Clayton Mac walk away from this, surely he was there when CE was commiting the rape and just did nothing? or did he leave when Ched arrived.
Either way vile human being! |
Apparently McDonald had consensual (and she admitted that) sex. But then he invited his mate Ched round to have a go on her (just a really weird thing to do... what guy would do that?) and that certainly wasn't consensual. |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 20:07 - Apr 20 with 2927 views | dalenumber2 |
| Ched Evans on 19:53 - Apr 20 by Shun |
Apparently McDonald had consensual (and she admitted that) sex. But then he invited his mate Ched round to have a go on her (just a really weird thing to do... what guy would do that?) and that certainly wasn't consensual. |
What an idiot - he deserves the sentence he got. And he will regret what he did for the rest of his life. |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 22:22 - Apr 20 with 2821 views | downunder |
| Ched Evans on 15:40 - Apr 20 by The_Ballboy |
Wow, I do one P too many and I'm jumped on.
Soz - my bad pal. |
To be even more pedantic, you have missed out the word "guilty". As he has been found guilty, you can now omit "allegedly" as well. In this case it would become a statement, and not a joke. What was your intention? |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 23:14 - Apr 20 with 2764 views | upthedale |
| Ched Evans on 19:53 - Apr 20 by Shun |
Apparently McDonald had consensual (and she admitted that) sex. But then he invited his mate Ched round to have a go on her (just a really weird thing to do... what guy would do that?) and that certainly wasn't consensual. |
If she's admitted to it then why was he up for rape?
That's not a go at the post, not read the story fully, just wondering! |  | | |
| Ched Evans on 00:15 - Apr 21 with 2730 views | Shun |
| Ched Evans on 23:14 - Apr 20 by upthedale |
If she's admitted to it then why was he up for rape?
That's not a go at the post, not read the story fully, just wondering! |
Good question! Not sure, I only heard brief bits of the report. | | | |
| Ched Evans on 12:30 - Apr 21 with 2596 views | Dalenet |
| Ched Evans on 00:15 - Apr 21 by Shun |
Good question! Not sure, I only heard brief bits of the report. |
The strange thing is that they found him guilty because the girl was in a terrible drunken state and was in no position to consent. The judge said he took advantage. In those circumstances surely his mate was doing the same? Or maybe she was asleep or something when Ched joined in.
Shocking nonetheless
Pity the trial wasn't before we played them | | | |
| Ched Evans on 13:59 - Apr 21 with 2532 views | olympicdale |
I know its no excuse for what Evans/McDonald did but these girls put themselves vunerable in these situations with all the drink, drinking themselves into a coma almost, that said, it wasnt right they took advantage like that.
There are situations that you hear about in regards to 'rape' charges by a lot of young girls against footballers, often for the publicity, but this been first one convicted for a good while.
Ive never been a fan of Evans so good riddence imo, although he'll be out in 2 1/2 years and probably scoring in Nottingham/Coventry and the likes, just hope not at our club/s.
would be surprised if McDonald is at Vale next year, even if he's been found 'not guilty' would you want someone like that at Dale hanging over you. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Ched Evans on 14:51 - Apr 21 with 2513 views | Dalenet |
| Ched Evans on 13:59 - Apr 21 by olympicdale |
I know its no excuse for what Evans/McDonald did but these girls put themselves vunerable in these situations with all the drink, drinking themselves into a coma almost, that said, it wasnt right they took advantage like that.
There are situations that you hear about in regards to 'rape' charges by a lot of young girls against footballers, often for the publicity, but this been first one convicted for a good while.
Ive never been a fan of Evans so good riddence imo, although he'll be out in 2 1/2 years and probably scoring in Nottingham/Coventry and the likes, just hope not at our club/s.
would be surprised if McDonald is at Vale next year, even if he's been found 'not guilty' would you want someone like that at Dale hanging over you. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Not sure you can have a pop at the Port Vale lad. He has been found not guilty and everybody deserves another chance. If we knew what some of our friends and workmates got up to behind closed doors we would be shocked. You can't impose moral judgements on people such that they lose their job when they are not guilty of anything however much as you find their sex life inappropriate. | | | |
| Ched Evans on 16:03 - Apr 21 with 2439 views | olympicdale |
| Ched Evans on 14:51 - Apr 21 by Dalenet |
Not sure you can have a pop at the Port Vale lad. He has been found not guilty and everybody deserves another chance. If we knew what some of our friends and workmates got up to behind closed doors we would be shocked. You can't impose moral judgements on people such that they lose their job when they are not guilty of anything however much as you find their sex life inappropriate. |
I'm just going by what effect it could have at the club,nothing to do with him as a person, but people are already questioning how he got away free, and this could reflect badly on Port Vale. | |
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| Ched Evans on 22:18 - Apr 21 with 2326 views | NotEyreClue |
| Ched Evans on 16:03 - Apr 21 by olympicdale |
I'm just going by what effect it could have at the club,nothing to do with him as a person, but people are already questioning how he got away free, and this could reflect badly on Port Vale. |
He'd have to agree to leaving though...otherwise he could claim wrongful/constructive dismissal as TECHNICALLY he hasn't done anything wrong!
With regards to the case, as someone's said previously, it's hard to comment without hearing all of the evidence but there are a few things that don't add up. It's important to remember that no matter how drunk someone gets/how provocatively they dress etc no-one is ever 'asking to be raped'...it's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot these days and hearing it makes me sick to my stomach.
Anyway...for the most part, I have faith in our judicial system (despite it's obvious flaws) and trust that the right decision was made. It's a shame that such a promising career has been permanently tarnished but he has no-one to blame but himself...I hope the decision gives the girl some degree of comfort and that she can hopefully try to rebuild her life
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| Ched Evans on 22:28 - Apr 21 with 2312 views | SuddenLad |
| Ched Evans on 22:18 - Apr 21 by NotEyreClue |
He'd have to agree to leaving though...otherwise he could claim wrongful/constructive dismissal as TECHNICALLY he hasn't done anything wrong!
With regards to the case, as someone's said previously, it's hard to comment without hearing all of the evidence but there are a few things that don't add up. It's important to remember that no matter how drunk someone gets/how provocatively they dress etc no-one is ever 'asking to be raped'...it's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot these days and hearing it makes me sick to my stomach.
Anyway...for the most part, I have faith in our judicial system (despite it's obvious flaws) and trust that the right decision was made. It's a shame that such a promising career has been permanently tarnished but he has no-one to blame but himself...I hope the decision gives the girl some degree of comfort and that she can hopefully try to rebuild her life
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Actually, LEGALLY, he has done nothing wrong, because he been CLEARED of any guilt.
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| Ched Evans on 02:06 - Apr 22 with 2251 views | NotEyreClue |
| Ched Evans on 22:28 - Apr 21 by SuddenLad |
Actually, LEGALLY, he has done nothing wrong, because he been CLEARED of any guilt.
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Obviously...what I meant was that getting accused of something and being cleared of it isn't a crime | |
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