| LA Fires 02:25 - Jan 12 with 1185 views | mangohilljack |
What’s your take on this?
Could this be a land grab for a smart city initiative tied to the 2028 Olympics (e.g., SmartLA2028)?
Historically, events of this scale have sparked speculation about ulterior motives. We’ve seen similar narratives in cases like Maui, Australia, and Texas.
Even in ancient history, figures like Nero allegedly burned Rome to clear space for his grand building projects. Is this simply a modern iteration of an age-old tactic? |  | | |  |
| LA Fires on 03:33 - Jan 12 with 1113 views | Kilkennyjack |
No. |  |
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| LA Fires on 08:29 - Jan 12 with 1046 views | mangohilljack |
Fair play—it must have taken quite some time and effort to put that answer together. | | | |
| LA Fires on 09:53 - Jan 12 with 993 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 08:29 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
Fair play—it must have taken quite some time and effort to put that answer together. |
Who knows the secret of the black magic box | |
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| LA Fires on 10:30 - Jan 12 with 975 views | 1983 |
I have a little bit of fire fighting experience from a previous life
LA is built on and around canyons, valleys whatever you want to call them where fire can jump from a top of valley to another top valley which will then spread down the valleys very much like a volcano affect it literally spreads like the wind which it makes it harder to fight it. I can imagine over the next few days in those valleys that is where they will find more bodies that were trapped its a very dry west facing state on the coast and with that wind makes it the perfect storm and sadly another disaster that we (US) will have to learn from. |  |
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| LA Fires on 10:33 - Jan 12 with 971 views | Plankton |
What a ridiculous post.
Nutjobs everywhere these days believing in all sorts of crap without proof.
Joe Rogan, Ant Middleton, Tate, Le Tissier et al have a lot to answer for. | | | |
| LA Fires on 10:41 - Jan 12 with 961 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If there’s one thing that America is definitely short of its space to build on. |  |
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| LA Fires on 11:33 - Jan 12 with 932 views | mangohilljack |
| LA Fires on 10:33 - Jan 12 by Plankton |
What a ridiculous post.
Nutjobs everywhere these days believing in all sorts of crap without proof.
Joe Rogan, Ant Middleton, Tate, Le Tissier et al have a lot to answer for. |
I asked for people’s thoughts because, by now, even someone like you must recognise that a wide range of theories are circulating.
I’ll admit, some of them sound quite far-fetched. However, we’re living in a world where greed and corruption permeate so many entities that it’s difficult to rule anything out. This makes uncovering the truth an increasingly challenging task.
It’s clear you choose to believe everything presented to you by mainstream media (MSM), and that’s your prerogative. However, MSM has a track record of selectively presenting information to shape public perception.
I certainly wouldn’t dismiss those who question government narratives as "nut jobs" simply because you may lack the capacity or willingness to think critically yourself. | | | |
| LA Fires on 12:31 - Jan 12 with 893 views | SullutaCreturned |
| LA Fires on 11:33 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
I asked for people’s thoughts because, by now, even someone like you must recognise that a wide range of theories are circulating.
I’ll admit, some of them sound quite far-fetched. However, we’re living in a world where greed and corruption permeate so many entities that it’s difficult to rule anything out. This makes uncovering the truth an increasingly challenging task.
It’s clear you choose to believe everything presented to you by mainstream media (MSM), and that’s your prerogative. However, MSM has a track record of selectively presenting information to shape public perception.
I certainly wouldn’t dismiss those who question government narratives as "nut jobs" simply because you may lack the capacity or willingness to think critically yourself. |
A wide range of theories, always is, from the lunatic fringe to the sane and logical.
Land grab.....how much of this land would be available for such a grab? Much of the now burnt out areas are suburbs where people will want to rebuild their homes. So a land grab isn't likely.
Now greed, will unscrupulous try and capitalise, absolutely 100% without a doubt, they always do. Will they succeed? Who knows.
Now government narratives, anybody who trusts a politician is, in my opinion, just as barmy as someone who thinks that everything that happens is a set up by greedy unscrupulous people.
These fires are mostly nature having it's way. Some were started on purpose and possibly even accidentally such as the one in the Pallisades area which is a known high risk area. The Santa Ana winds are strong and drive fires quickky and they defelop into fire storms which cause even stronger winds which make the fires jump large gaps. The hotter it gets, the stronger the winds become, the worse the fire becomes. I saw that on the news, live from California. I wtched people crying because they'd lost everything including family, I saw people refusing to leave their homes and trying to fight the fires with housepipes, I saw people running, abandoning cars and leaving everything they owned that they had managed to cram in because the traficc was clogged up so badly and the fires were catching them up with the smoke blinding them. Panic broke out. This isn't a government narrative, not for those people who have lost all they had or those who have died. This is a disaster. | | | |
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| LA Fires on 12:50 - Jan 12 with 871 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 12:31 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
A wide range of theories, always is, from the lunatic fringe to the sane and logical.
Land grab.....how much of this land would be available for such a grab? Much of the now burnt out areas are suburbs where people will want to rebuild their homes. So a land grab isn't likely.
Now greed, will unscrupulous try and capitalise, absolutely 100% without a doubt, they always do. Will they succeed? Who knows.
Now government narratives, anybody who trusts a politician is, in my opinion, just as barmy as someone who thinks that everything that happens is a set up by greedy unscrupulous people.
These fires are mostly nature having it's way. Some were started on purpose and possibly even accidentally such as the one in the Pallisades area which is a known high risk area. The Santa Ana winds are strong and drive fires quickky and they defelop into fire storms which cause even stronger winds which make the fires jump large gaps. The hotter it gets, the stronger the winds become, the worse the fire becomes. I saw that on the news, live from California. I wtched people crying because they'd lost everything including family, I saw people refusing to leave their homes and trying to fight the fires with housepipes, I saw people running, abandoning cars and leaving everything they owned that they had managed to cram in because the traficc was clogged up so badly and the fires were catching them up with the smoke blinding them. Panic broke out. This isn't a government narrative, not for those people who have lost all they had or those who have died. This is a disaster. |
It’s why I m always puzzled at Americans bemoaning our climate .
Hurricanes aren’t nice.neither are tornadoes so that’s the south and Midwest out.
Now factor in the serene heat in Arizona and south west and the fires in California and the sheer biting cold of the Great Lakes region and it’s makes one realise we ain’t too bad here . | |
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| LA Fires on 12:55 - Jan 12 with 869 views | mangohilljack |
I've got one question for you
WHY did they shut off the water? | | | |
| LA Fires on 14:43 - Jan 12 with 796 views | controversial_jack |
| LA Fires on 12:50 - Jan 12 by onehunglow |
It’s why I m always puzzled at Americans bemoaning our climate .
Hurricanes aren’t nice.neither are tornadoes so that’s the south and Midwest out.
Now factor in the serene heat in Arizona and south west and the fires in California and the sheer biting cold of the Great Lakes region and it’s makes one realise we ain’t too bad here . |
As i write this, the winter temp in LA is 7c riding to a roasting 19c, so hardly down to climate change | | | |
| LA Fires on 15:24 - Jan 12 with 764 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 14:43 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
As i write this, the winter temp in LA is 7c riding to a roasting 19c, so hardly down to climate change |
Have I mentioned climate change
Assumptions. Don’t . | |
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| LA Fires on 20:43 - Jan 12 with 659 views | SullutaCreturned |
| LA Fires on 12:55 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
I've got one question for you
WHY did they shut off the water? |
Except they didn't shut it off, officialy anyway...
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.
“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.
There you go. The water wasn't shut off, it was running out and they couldn't refill it quick enough to keep pressure up. Hundredss of fire hoses going full blast for 15 hours and more, it could have that effect. | | | |
| LA Fires on 21:17 - Jan 12 with 633 views | controversial_jack |
| LA Fires on 15:24 - Jan 12 by onehunglow |
Have I mentioned climate change
Assumptions. Don’t . |
I didn't state you had. | | | |
| LA Fires on 21:49 - Jan 12 with 618 views | Boundy |
| LA Fires on 20:43 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Except they didn't shut it off, officialy anyway...
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.
“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.
There you go. The water wasn't shut off, it was running out and they couldn't refill it quick enough to keep pressure up. Hundredss of fire hoses going full blast for 15 hours and more, it could have that effect. |
One of the reason they couldn't refill the tanks was they allowed storm water normally collected to disperse. | |
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| LA Fires on 06:25 - Jan 13 with 519 views | Scotia |
| LA Fires on 12:55 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
I've got one question for you
WHY did they shut off the water? |
Obviously so P Diddys house burnt down and all the evidence against him being a perv with it.
Just one of the ridiculous things I heard today. | | | |
| LA Fires on 07:37 - Jan 13 with 470 views | Scotia |
A better connected and more equittable city! What a stupid idea.
They'd better not ever try that in Swansea. | | | |
| LA Fires on 11:00 - Jan 13 with 406 views | mangohilljack |
| LA Fires on 07:37 - Jan 13 by Scotia |
A better connected and more equittable city! What a stupid idea.
They'd better not ever try that in Swansea. |
I never said it was a stupid idea, did I? (Not that I agree with 15-minute smart cities, but that’s beside the point.)
This is the plan, and here we are. Remember that famous quote from the globalists: “Build back better”? Well, now they have their chance. | | | |
| LA Fires on 13:15 - Jan 13 with 358 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| LA Fires on 20:43 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Except they didn't shut it off, officialy anyway...
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.
“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.
There you go. The water wasn't shut off, it was running out and they couldn't refill it quick enough to keep pressure up. Hundredss of fire hoses going full blast for 15 hours and more, it could have that effect. |
California is also an incredibly dry and arid state. Much of it is considered desert. There probably wasn’t much water there to start with.
I don’t know how people come up with these crazy conspiracy theories. They must be absolutely stark raving mad. It’s just a fire. It happens. It’s always happened and it’ll continue to happen. | |
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| LA Fires on 13:59 - Jan 13 with 347 views | Scotia |
| LA Fires on 11:00 - Jan 13 by mangohilljack |
I never said it was a stupid idea, did I? (Not that I agree with 15-minute smart cities, but that’s beside the point.)
This is the plan, and here we are. Remember that famous quote from the globalists: “Build back better”? Well, now they have their chance. |
Having access to most of what you need within 15 minutes is clearly a stupid idea. It's all about control obviously.
I'd much rather travel for far longer to vist the Dr and get the kids to school. Conveinience is really overated.
I don't think they do really the vast majority of LA is still standing. The globalists need to move their wind machine to blow the fire towards downtown. | | | |
| LA Fires on 15:40 - Jan 13 with 287 views | SullutaCreturned |
| LA Fires on 13:59 - Jan 13 by Scotia |
Having access to most of what you need within 15 minutes is clearly a stupid idea. It's all about control obviously.
I'd much rather travel for far longer to vist the Dr and get the kids to school. Conveinience is really overated.
I don't think they do really the vast majority of LA is still standing. The globalists need to move their wind machine to blow the fire towards downtown. |
15 minute towns and cities was what we had before supermarkets and "out of town shopping"
As a kid I could walk for no more than 10 minutes and visit 2 butchers, a greengrocers, a fishmongers; an ironmongers, 2 chemists, 2 doctors surgeries, various clothes shops and 2 chip shops with 1 pub, the White Rose, s hairdressers and a barber.
Food was sold in paper bags too, bottles were glass and were rcycled.
Why was that worse than today? Why would a 15 minute city be so bad....well because the conspiracy "experts" think it means they'll restrict our travelling. | | | |
| LA Fires on 16:55 - Jan 13 with 268 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Not wedded to any theory, but some facts that have emerged that indicate that this is a mixture of factors. In no particular order.
Empty Reservoir, closed for maintenance in the fire season.
Cuts to Fire Dept budget
Unusually long dry spell
Two arrests on suspicion of arson
Power Lines Downed
High Winds
No Brush Clearance
Fireworks during the New Year
Increased building into the forest
Fires have happened in that part of the world every year for hundreds of years. |  |
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| LA Fires on 18:16 - Jan 13 with 227 views | Scotia |
| LA Fires on 15:40 - Jan 13 by SullutaCreturned |
15 minute towns and cities was what we had before supermarkets and "out of town shopping"
As a kid I could walk for no more than 10 minutes and visit 2 butchers, a greengrocers, a fishmongers; an ironmongers, 2 chemists, 2 doctors surgeries, various clothes shops and 2 chip shops with 1 pub, the White Rose, s hairdressers and a barber.
Food was sold in paper bags too, bottles were glass and were rcycled.
Why was that worse than today? Why would a 15 minute city be so bad....well because the conspiracy "experts" think it means they'll restrict our travelling. |
Absolutely.
The 15 minute town conspiracy theory is one of the most barmy of them all. | | | |
| LA Fires on 20:15 - Jan 13 with 177 views | KeithHaynes |
| LA Fires on 10:33 - Jan 12 by Plankton |
What a ridiculous post.
Nutjobs everywhere these days believing in all sorts of crap without proof.
Joe Rogan, Ant Middleton, Tate, Le Tissier et al have a lot to answer for. |
We’ve got rid of this poster due to his continual slurs regards mental health when replying to posters. He is also has been convicted of offences contrary to the animal act 2006, from March 2024.
Name is Michael Watts.
https://www.southwalesguardian.co.uk/news/24205340.cross-hands-man-admits-breedi
This won’t go away. |  |
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