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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 09:44 - Feb 20 by Dr_Parnassus
That’s been answered already.
It’s expensive to sack and manager and their whole staff. Plus you need to have the required replacement lined up.
He is probably fine to get us to the end of the season, and that is when the pool of managers is at its largest. It’s not as easy as just sacking someone, several facets to it.
thank you for your reply, so they wont spend the cash to possibly"improve "Swansea s chances of play offs as , so you say a new manager bounce will reduce the gap so going on your logic they are NOT doing the best for Swansea fc are they ? but again thanks for your reply
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:06 - Feb 20 with 1089 views
Every day goes by seeming more and more we are on a downward trajectory with these owners Martin in or out. Like him or or loath him. Any replacement will fare no better under these owners
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:06 - Feb 20 by STID2017
Every day goes by seeming more and more we are on a downward trajectory with these owners Martin in or out. Like him or or loath him. Any replacement will fare no better under these owners
totally agree no REAL intrest in improving things
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:23 - Feb 20 with 1055 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:06 - Feb 20 by pete
thank you for your reply, so they wont spend the cash to possibly"improve "Swansea s chances of play offs as , so you say a new manager bounce will reduce the gap so going on your logic they are NOT doing the best for Swansea fc are they ? but again thanks for your reply
There is no such thing as a new manager bounce.
It’s a myth.
If they don’t believe there is someone suitable to come in, who would be interested to come in. Then they are doing best for the club by not sacking him.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:23 - Feb 20 by Dr_Parnassus
There is no such thing as a new manager bounce.
It’s a myth.
If they don’t believe there is someone suitable to come in, who would be interested to come in. Then they are doing best for the club by not sacking him.
L O L
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:26 - Feb 20 with 1039 views
We have lost 19 points in the last 10 minutes including Saturday, that's where its going wrong, stating the obvious, we need to turn loses into draws and draws into wins.
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:26 - Feb 20 by Dr_Parnassus
Which part do you disagree with specifically?
whos saying i disagree with that post? the lol was me thinking , who would come in without a confirmed promise of a budget that the recruitment people would have been given and would not be vetoed no one who looked at the presant owners record with any sense and thinking of their own career would give these guys a wide berth, again only my opinion of course
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 10:43 - Feb 27 with 867 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 08:04 - Feb 27 by pete
whos saying i disagree with that post? the lol was me thinking , who would come in without a confirmed promise of a budget that the recruitment people would have been given and would not be vetoed no one who looked at the presant owners record with any sense and thinking of their own career would give these guys a wide berth, again only my opinion of course
Same feeling here. Things need fixing at the very top, otherwise be changing the manager but still having same ongoing issues long term
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 10:43 - Feb 27 by STID2017
Same feeling here. Things need fixing at the very top, otherwise be changing the manager but still having same ongoing issues long term
So what's the answer, none of us want the club debt ridden, we need to be careful follow FFP rules (although other clubs seem to ignore it, including Man City).
I know I've posted this before but can we not see the similarity
The way that central media monies are paid creates massive challenges for those of us in the Championship trying to compete. It costs about £24 million pounds each year to keep us going. Towards this we receive approximately £2.3m from season tickets and a further £7.3m in total from the EFL and Premier League. After other income streams, that leaves my family with an annual shortfall of around £12m which we have to put into the club each season. Crain Hemmings PNE
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:37 - Feb 27 with 848 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 11:30 - Feb 27 by whiterock
So what's the answer, none of us want the club debt ridden, we need to be careful follow FFP rules (although other clubs seem to ignore it, including Man City).
I know I've posted this before but can we not see the similarity
The way that central media monies are paid creates massive challenges for those of us in the Championship trying to compete. It costs about £24 million pounds each year to keep us going. Towards this we receive approximately £2.3m from season tickets and a further £7.3m in total from the EFL and Premier League. After other income streams, that leaves my family with an annual shortfall of around £12m which we have to put into the club each season. Crain Hemmings PNE
I wish i knew , but I cannot get my head around the way the club has been run since the current owners took over, They pay people to run the club and pay them well i assume, no problem there , they employ recruitment people no problem there, they must have agreed budgets with the people in the respective positions, no ploblem, then when deals are almost done or agreed they pull the plug this has happened time after time after time, they get involved and invariably change the goal posts, and people will not want to deal with the club and players will say no thanks ( as has happened) They have us on a fairly secure financial situation and i agree we do not want to fall into the finacial black hole situation, that is the thing that i think really upsets supporters and they do not come over to watch the games and see with their own eyes the problems we under, wether its the manager, the squad quality and size so frustrating as we were just 2 or 3 players away from the play offs, now there is a sour taste everywhere, a real pity for all, owners manager and us supporters again just my opinion
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 20:33 - Feb 27 with 816 views
The plan is to run the club sustainable. This includes player trading.
Unfortunately the market for sub elite footballers has collapsed. Cardiff have not sold anyone for big profit for some time. Swansea did well with Rodon and Downes.
No one would pay big money for Grimes, Roberts, Obafemi and no one was interested in Piroe and Manning.
Swansea will have to sell 3 -4 media um price players for £2-3m instead of one for £10m. This is a big problem.
Recruitment needs to find low cost players and turn them into £3m footballers like Whittaker.
Players and agents want a market where transfer fee as low and wages are too high. This is very bad for Swansea. Manning works in low free and high wages. No one signs extensions unless paid over the top.
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 12:37 - Feb 27 by pete
I wish i knew , but I cannot get my head around the way the club has been run since the current owners took over, They pay people to run the club and pay them well i assume, no problem there , they employ recruitment people no problem there, they must have agreed budgets with the people in the respective positions, no ploblem, then when deals are almost done or agreed they pull the plug this has happened time after time after time, they get involved and invariably change the goal posts, and people will not want to deal with the club and players will say no thanks ( as has happened) They have us on a fairly secure financial situation and i agree we do not want to fall into the finacial black hole situation, that is the thing that i think really upsets supporters and they do not come over to watch the games and see with their own eyes the problems we under, wether its the manager, the squad quality and size so frustrating as we were just 2 or 3 players away from the play offs, now there is a sour taste everywhere, a real pity for all, owners manager and us supporters again just my opinion
That sour taste has been here since day one, if we're honest, we didn't want them here in the first place, however, we're in a situation that shouting Yanks Out every so often may make us feel better for five minutes but doesn't solve the problem, we have owners that don't come over, possibly because they get treated like dog shite when they do. Would they sell? of course they would but has to be for what they perceive the club to be worth, do I want a chancer to turn up and staff the cash willy nilly?, not on your nelly.
I am genuinely shocked at the poll with 75% saying they are doing enough.
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 14:24 - Feb 28 with 739 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 13:59 - Feb 28 by whiterock
That sour taste has been here since day one, if we're honest, we didn't want them here in the first place, however, we're in a situation that shouting Yanks Out every so often may make us feel better for five minutes but doesn't solve the problem, we have owners that don't come over, possibly because they get treated like dog shite when they do. Would they sell? of course they would but has to be for what they perceive the club to be worth, do I want a chancer to turn up and staff the cash willy nilly?, not on your nelly.
I am genuinely shocked at the poll with 75% saying they are doing enough.
I do not talk "we" I talk "I". You do not talk for me and I do not predetermine what you think.
The downward trajectory was already in place when the US people arrived. . Garry Monk's 8 th place was top of the shop. The only way was down. David Ledbetter had already had a run of duff signings with 'fat Frank', Eder, Montero and a few others to suggest trouble ahead. This duly arrived with Borja Baston.
The existing owner in 2016 had done enough and wanted out after 14 years. The dim fans body wanted to handcuff them to the radiator by using agreements. The dim fans did not want investment if it diluted their shareholding. The sour taste was generated by the fans not the other owners or the US people.
Setting up the Trust in 2002 was an horrendous mistake. Reynolds and co do all the fluffy media stuff but were hard ball enough to tell Wrexham Trust they were out on the street if they were to take over. Their remaining holding would be sweet zero.
I expect the January transfer money to be kept until the summer. There will be a big Summer for Martins. He can book his removal van now.
I expect Levien and Silverstein have a succession plan. Ideally the new managers was at the Liberty last night with a mack a hat and a pair of shades on. A new manager or at least the owners tactical strategic advisor.
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 14:24 - Feb 28 by ReslovenSwan1
I do not talk "we" I talk "I". You do not talk for me and I do not predetermine what you think.
The downward trajectory was already in place when the US people arrived. . Garry Monk's 8 th place was top of the shop. The only way was down. David Ledbetter had already had a run of duff signings with 'fat Frank', Eder, Montero and a few others to suggest trouble ahead. This duly arrived with Borja Baston.
The existing owner in 2016 had done enough and wanted out after 14 years. The dim fans body wanted to handcuff them to the radiator by using agreements. The dim fans did not want investment if it diluted their shareholding. The sour taste was generated by the fans not the other owners or the US people.
Setting up the Trust in 2002 was an horrendous mistake. Reynolds and co do all the fluffy media stuff but were hard ball enough to tell Wrexham Trust they were out on the street if they were to take over. Their remaining holding would be sweet zero.
I expect the January transfer money to be kept until the summer. There will be a big Summer for Martins. He can book his removal van now.
I expect Levien and Silverstein have a succession plan. Ideally the new managers was at the Liberty last night with a mack a hat and a pair of shades on. A new manager or at least the owners tactical strategic advisor.
I am looking for a solution, fans don't want the owners we got, they want someone else, anyone else, I'd say to that, careful what is wished for.
As for Garry Monk, his football was dire but his record wasn't that bad, I think we'd (Oops, should have said I'd) take results over performance at the moment.
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 17:34 - Feb 28 with 699 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 13:59 - Feb 28 by whiterock
That sour taste has been here since day one, if we're honest, we didn't want them here in the first place, however, we're in a situation that shouting Yanks Out every so often may make us feel better for five minutes but doesn't solve the problem, we have owners that don't come over, possibly because they get treated like dog shite when they do. Would they sell? of course they would but has to be for what they perceive the club to be worth, do I want a chancer to turn up and staff the cash willy nilly?, not on your nelly.
I am genuinely shocked at the poll with 75% saying they are doing enough.
If doing enough means watching us turning us into relegation fodder and not intervening then yes That poll baffles me too. Not suggesting I know what the alternative is, or who it is.
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 17:34 - Feb 28 by STID2017
If doing enough means watching us turning us into relegation fodder and not intervening then yes That poll baffles me too. Not suggesting I know what the alternative is, or who it is.
Surely it's Martin turning us into relegation fodder?
You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 14:24 - Feb 28 by ReslovenSwan1
I do not talk "we" I talk "I". You do not talk for me and I do not predetermine what you think.
The downward trajectory was already in place when the US people arrived. . Garry Monk's 8 th place was top of the shop. The only way was down. David Ledbetter had already had a run of duff signings with 'fat Frank', Eder, Montero and a few others to suggest trouble ahead. This duly arrived with Borja Baston.
The existing owner in 2016 had done enough and wanted out after 14 years. The dim fans body wanted to handcuff them to the radiator by using agreements. The dim fans did not want investment if it diluted their shareholding. The sour taste was generated by the fans not the other owners or the US people.
Setting up the Trust in 2002 was an horrendous mistake. Reynolds and co do all the fluffy media stuff but were hard ball enough to tell Wrexham Trust they were out on the street if they were to take over. Their remaining holding would be sweet zero.
I expect the January transfer money to be kept until the summer. There will be a big Summer for Martins. He can book his removal van now.
I expect Levien and Silverstein have a succession plan. Ideally the new managers was at the Liberty last night with a mack a hat and a pair of shades on. A new manager or at least the owners tactical strategic advisor.
Only a buffoon wearing star spangled spectacles would think that the yanks would spend money if we had a new manager.
Get used to the downward trajectory because that's the only way we are heading with these lot in charge, even if we get the best championship manager, he will struggle as the yanks won't spend and the conveyor belt of 'assets' to keep us going ate nowhere to be seen.
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Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 17:53 - Feb 28 with 686 views
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 17:40 - Feb 28 by raynor94
Surely it's Martin turning us into relegation fodder?
That is why is i said watching and not intervening Rays. We can do nothing as fans to change the manager, staff, players, whatever. The only ones who can doing anything to effect change are many miles away and seemingly staying there ?
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 17:53 - Feb 28 by STID2017
That is why is i said watching and not intervening Rays. We can do nothing as fans to change the manager, staff, players, whatever. The only ones who can doing anything to effect change are many miles away and seemingly staying there ?
My dissatisfaction with them is they should have relieved him of his duties after the Brum game.
It's getting silly now we have become a laughing stock
You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 09:01 - Mar 1 by STID2017
Totally agree that they should have acted by now. We just seem to be going from worse to worse
So you want Russell Martin sacked now?
It wasn’t that long ago you were stating the exact opposite. So considering some have only come to this conclusion in the last few days, I think it’s fair to say the owners also deserve some time to put things in place to make any necessary changes.
Because you can guarantee if they sack him today, it will only take a few days for people to be complaining about them taking their time over appointing someone.
These things require timing, planning and execution. Shouldn’t be done just because some fans who backed him to the hilt have suddenly realised they backed the wrong horse.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Are the owners doing enough for Swansea City on 09:01 - Mar 1 by STID2017
Totally agree that they should have acted by now. We just seem to be going from worse to worse
Point of order, whenever we lose games, we, according to some, suddenly become a laughing stock, NOT TRUE. Our owners are not the best but 75% think they are doing enough. PROUD TO SUPPORT Swansea City
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