| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row 16:11 - Jan 28 with 10943 views | Stainrod |
What is going on there? I Lost to the mighty Charlton today.
What does this say about our puppy farm? Lack of pedigree?
De Wijs was captaining the team - but I saw the second goal and there was no one within ten yards of the Charlton player to head home.
Appreciate at that level its not all about results, etc etc but is it enough to be constantly told "it was a good run-out"? Should this make us question just how good we are at developing good young talent, or is it that such talent is just not often selected in these fixtures?
I can't say I follow them closely to have an informed opinion but would be interested to hear from someone who follows them more closely. |  | | |  |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 14:21 - Jan 29 with 3432 views | derbyhoop |
When you have a defence containing De Wijs, Gubbins qnd Hammelainnen and then start offering an opposition attacker 10 yards of space to score, then I'm not sure what they are learning from these games.
Sure, we have Kelman, Drewe and, now, Masterson out on loan. Bettache's loan spell at Oldham seems to have sent him backwards in terms of development. But are any of the others seriously pushing to step up to 1st team level. The results would indicate a large NO. [Post edited 29 Jan 2022 14:24]
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 14:41 - Jan 29 with 3382 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 04:22 - Jan 29 by Match82 |
"And during that time we have produced no first team talent. As a regular watcher, that doesn’t look like changing any time soon."
Wait, really?
They may not have all come through from the under 12s, but Eze, Dieng, Kakay, Chair have all come through in the last 2-3 years.
Which is more than we have produced in the 10 years before that combined |
Eze joined QPR at 18. Chair joined when he was 19. Dieng arrived at QPR at 21. Of those 4 players you mention, only Kakay came through the academy before signing his first professional contract at 18.
QPR have undoubtedly improved at scouting and nurturing players who haven't quite made the grade at other clubs. However, there is definite room for improvement with regards to developing young players through the QPR academy. That being said, it can't be easy with the likes of Chelsea and Man City hoovering up and stockpiling young talent. Hopefully this will change when the rules kick in. |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:08 - Jan 29 with 3360 views | ed_83 |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 08:17 - Jan 29 by 1JD |
Chair is 24 and made his debut aged 19 - 5 years ago. He’s been regularly playing in our first team for nearly 3 seasons. Since he, Eze and Dieng broke through - all part of the same 23 team - the rest of the crop have not been good enough - as has been proven- nothing has come through since. |
Bettache and Duke-McKenna were on the fringes of the first team at the end of last season, Sinclair Armstrong came off the bench this season, latter two are out on loan so should hopefully come back more equipped to push for a first-team place. Bit early to write them off! | | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:55 - Jan 29 with 3333 views | 1JD |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:08 - Jan 29 by ed_83 |
Bettache and Duke-McKenna were on the fringes of the first team at the end of last season, Sinclair Armstrong came off the bench this season, latter two are out on loan so should hopefully come back more equipped to push for a first-team place. Bit early to write them off! |
Nobody is writing off any of Bettache, SDM or Armstrong. | | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 00:02 - Jan 30 with 3211 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 14:11 - Jan 29 by 1JD |
None of the u18s have played for the 23s this year. The line up mostly consists of 21 and 20 year olds and often includes fringe players from the 1sts. Take for example our most recent game on Friday - we lost 3-1 to Charlton u23s but Hamalainen, Gubbins, DeWjis, Bettache, Alfa all played.
Meanwhile our u18s are currently bottom of the league and just got beat by second bottom Swansea by 5-0. For additional context, our u18s have finished bottom of the league for the last 2 seasons. |
Yeah yeah yeah, but let's not let the facts cloud our judgment here
The club knows what's best
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 14:24 - Feb 3 with 3132 views | derbyhoop |
If anybody reads the report on the B Team draw at Reading (1-1), it struck me that it was basically an U23 side, apart from Nico Hamalainnen and Dillon Barnes.
Given the lack of games, I would have thought the likes of Kakay, Ball, Dozzell and, possibly Hendrick would have featured.
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 15:04 - Feb 3 with 3062 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 14:41 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball |
Eze joined QPR at 18. Chair joined when he was 19. Dieng arrived at QPR at 21. Of those 4 players you mention, only Kakay came through the academy before signing his first professional contract at 18.
QPR have undoubtedly improved at scouting and nurturing players who haven't quite made the grade at other clubs. However, there is definite room for improvement with regards to developing young players through the QPR academy. That being said, it can't be easy with the likes of Chelsea and Man City hoovering up and stockpiling young talent. Hopefully this will change when the rules kick in. |
"Hopefully this will change when the rules kick in."
Benny,
Are there rule changes due to come in? |  |
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:07 - Feb 3 with 2968 views | Sharpy36 |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 15:04 - Feb 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
"Hopefully this will change when the rules kick in."
Benny,
Are there rule changes due to come in? |
I thought there was a rule in place that you could only take youngsters from within a certain mileage catchment area. Or am i being naive |  |
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 22:47 - Feb 3 with 2818 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:07 - Feb 3 by Sharpy36 |
I thought there was a rule in place that you could only take youngsters from within a certain mileage catchment area. Or am i being naive |
There was, Sharpy, but I think the big clubs got that scrapped.
No idea what the rules are now. | |
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 15:59 - Feb 14 with 2586 views | aston_hoop |
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:02 - Feb 14 with 2552 views | MrSheen |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 15:59 - Feb 14 by aston_hoop |
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Under 23s? That lad looks like a Motorhead roadie. |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:17 - Feb 14 with 2466 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:02 - Feb 14 by MrSheen |
Under 23s? That lad looks like a Motorhead roadie. |
Bradley Dack isn't it? |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:30 - Feb 14 with 2428 views | DannyPaddox |
What an amazing result with a three goal swing needed. Fantastic achievement ðŸ‘ðŸ¼ðŸ‘ðŸ¼ðŸ‘🼠|  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:42 - Feb 14 with 2378 views | mikeygunn |
5-2 up, Blackburn scored in the 96th minute then Kargbo got the winner in the 97th minute. Bet the lads went mental!! Well chuffed for them and into the next round now against much higher quality opposition |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:50 - Feb 14 with 2339 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 15:59 - Feb 14 by aston_hoop |
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Did either side play with keepers? |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:52 - Feb 14 with 2332 views | derbyhoop |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:17 - Feb 14 by CroydonCaptJack |
Bradley Dack isn't it? |
Looks like somebody swallowed the real Bradley Dack😉
The last minute winner put them through to the next round, on goal difference, with all 4 teams finishing on 9 points. [Post edited 14 Feb 2022 17:35]
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:27 - Feb 14 with 2203 views | PinnerPaul |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:42 - Feb 14 by mikeygunn |
5-2 up, Blackburn scored in the 96th minute then Kargbo got the winner in the 97th minute. Bet the lads went mental!! Well chuffed for them and into the next round now against much higher quality opposition |
We did have a fair sprinkling of '1st teamers' playing in this one though
QPR XI: Halwax, Willimas-Lowe (Bettache 45’), Carlyle, Gubbins, McCallum (Domi 75’), Dozzell, Ball, Mema, Thomas, Ajose (Remy 80’), Kargbo | | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:53 - Feb 14 with 2111 views | EmpireStateRanger |
Bettache is here? Thought he was on loan.
Man, our midfield is crowded. | | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 18:05 - Feb 14 with 2083 views | MrSheen |
Is Remy eligible for the play-offs? | | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 18:12 - Feb 14 with 2041 views | dublinr |
Enough of this joke now, please, please, please
First time back on here since the final whistle on Saturday, still too fragile for fekking Remy and the play offs [Post edited 14 Feb 2022 18:14]
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| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 19:01 - Feb 14 with 1941 views | DannytheR |
I preferred it when the U-23s lost every week and the actual first team won. |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 20:45 - Feb 14 with 1756 views | Match82 |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 17:27 - Feb 14 by PinnerPaul |
We did have a fair sprinkling of '1st teamers' playing in this one though
QPR XI: Halwax, Willimas-Lowe (Bettache 45’), Carlyle, Gubbins, McCallum (Domi 75’), Dozzell, Ball, Mema, Thomas, Ajose (Remy 80’), Kargbo |
I mean they had Bradley Dack playing, not like they were running out just a bunch of 17 year Olds... |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 00:49 - Feb 15 with 1531 views | joolsyp |
There must be a video somewhere - I want to see the winning goal and the celebrations that followed! Can we not promote Kargbo to the first team? |  | | |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 04:34 - Feb 15 with 1490 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Under 23s - 7 defeats in a row on 16:50 - Feb 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Did either side play with keepers? |
Sounds like they were playing three-and-in and as per usual, the fat kids get put in goal first.
Clearly our tubby was better then their two tubbiest. |  |
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