| Eze release clause 19:33 - Aug 16 with 24913 views | Gloucs_R |
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| Eze release clause on 12:21 - Aug 17 with 7185 views | dmm |
I spotted Kenny Jacket at last week's Dev squad game He's director of Football at Gillingham these days so obviously scouting at the game. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 12:39 - Aug 17 with 7055 views | kensalriser |
| Eze release clause on 23:24 - Aug 16 by bosh67 |
I believe it is the opposite. The 60m clause meant that a club could get him on 'the cheap'. Now it could be a lot more. |
If 60m was cheap he would have been snapped up by now. The fact he hasn't tells us no one values him that highly. |  |
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| Eze release clause on 13:38 - Aug 17 with 6893 views | Landshark |
| Eze release clause on 12:39 - Aug 17 by kensalriser |
If 60m was cheap he would have been snapped up by now. The fact he hasn't tells us no one values him that highly. |
QPR fans do. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 14:25 - Aug 17 with 6779 views | hantssi |
| Eze release clause on 11:48 - Aug 17 by rbee |
I would suggest not a lot especially with the players joining us from abroad. No doubt someone will be watching video but you would hope that they would also watch complete games.
In this day and age I would also be disappointed if we didn’t read fans forums like this one to gauge fans opinion on a player. If a dozen Lugano fans in Switzerland wrote that they would drive Celar to Loftus Road you would hope the club would take note! |
That’s a very good idea, let’s sign players on the basis of a fans message board!
We can’t even agree amongst ourselves which players are good/no good! | | | |
| Eze release clause on 14:57 - Aug 17 with 6662 views | rbee |
| Eze release clause on 14:25 - Aug 17 by hantssi |
That’s a very good idea, let’s sign players on the basis of a fans message board!
We can’t even agree amongst ourselves which players are good/no good! |
Not the basis obviously but why not include that as a small part of the process along with the players social media.
I recall Charlton fans offering to drive Macauley Bonne to Loftus Road. There was 2 million well spent. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 13:26 - Aug 19 with 6324 views | 89_50 |
I'd be surprised if Eze leaves now, especially this late in the window.
I wouldn't say the lack of interest in him is because the price is too high, but perhaps as much to do with the structure of offer.
I think I'm correct in saying that many of these release clauses have to be paid in one go, which is proving more and more difficult in the age of PSR.
By letting it lapse, interested clubs can offer more structured deals that may cost them more in the long run, but can help them stay within the regs. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 14:03 - Aug 19 with 5992 views | francisbowles |
I know it's a forum and is all about opinions but this thread is even more full of rumours and speculation than usual.😬😁 | | | |
| Eze release clause on 14:18 - Aug 19 with 5894 views | KensalT |
| Eze release clause on 20:25 - Aug 16 by rbee |
My take is that Palace were bound by the release clause and would have to sell him if it was activated and they would have to sell at the price set in the clause.
Without the release clause Eze would be treated as any other player. Any bids for him can be made but Palace are now in control and can reject and accept offers on their terms.
As I say, just my take. [Post edited 16 Aug 20:32]
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A release clause is just a sale price at which a club is willing to sell a player.
If a potential buyer makes an offer matching the release clause it means that buying club then has permission to talk to the player to offer terms.
But it doesn't automatically mean the player has to be sold:
1. The player might be happy where he is and refuse to leave.
2. The selling club might decide they would rather keep the player than have the transfer fee. In which case they could offer the player a new contract on better terms.
The release clause gives the player bargaining power. But it doesn't automatically mean he gets sold. | | | |
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| Eze release clause on 14:41 - Aug 19 with 5683 views | MedwayR |
| Eze release clause on 14:18 - Aug 19 by KensalT |
A release clause is just a sale price at which a club is willing to sell a player.
If a potential buyer makes an offer matching the release clause it means that buying club then has permission to talk to the player to offer terms.
But it doesn't automatically mean the player has to be sold:
1. The player might be happy where he is and refuse to leave.
2. The selling club might decide they would rather keep the player than have the transfer fee. In which case they could offer the player a new contract on better terms.
The release clause gives the player bargaining power. But it doesn't automatically mean he gets sold. |
2. The selling club might decide they would rather keep the player than have the transfer fee. In which case they could offer the player a new contract on better terms.
I don't agree with that, it would make the release clause pointless. If a club meets the release clause and the player wants to go, there's nothing the selling club can do.
In Spain, release clauses have to be paid in full. Clubs either negotiate to spread payments but pay a higher fee, or they borrow money from a lender (usually a bank) to pay the release fee then spread the repayments. I presume they work in the same way here. |  |
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| Eze release clause on 15:56 - Aug 19 with 5420 views | rbee |
My understanding is that a release clause is set between the club, the player and their agent at the time of signing. In the case of Palace and Eze is appears that the release clause was set at 60 million?
If a club like Barcelona triggers the clause with a 60 million offer then Palace cannot stand in the players way. Presumably the player can turn down the move.
Now the release clause has expired Palace can ask any fee that they like. | | | |
| Eze release clause on 16:00 - Aug 19 with 5395 views | numptydumpty |
| Eze release clause on 08:36 - Aug 17 by Loyalitat |
Just as well he's unlikely to be sold, as we'll only go and buy more inexperienced, wet behind the ears players, in terms of their preparedness for the championship. If this incredibly risky strategy were deployed by Hoos and Ferdinand, the message boards and other media channels would be toxic by now.
A. Drewe and O Kakay weren't championship standard, but neither looked as abject as Santos did against third-tier Cambridge. Dunne is looking as out of sorts as Paal, and was equally as culpable in some of the goals conceded last week. However, if the decision were to drop him, we can't, as we have no viable back-up in that position, as Santos is truly awful.
Nardi for mine, was at fault for the first goal too v WBA. He could have come out for the hanging cross that led to their second goal, where both Paal and Dunne were equally culpable at different phases. Now if that first goal, in particular, were conceded by Begovic, there would have been posts aplenty.
I'm not surprised that the MC has said that Walsh will not be going out on loan. "Being good with feet" aside, Walsh has a greater physical presence and in the two games: Coventry last season and Cambridge, has not been afraid to come out into congested areas to either claim or punch the ball away. I don't see that being a prominent feature of Nardi. Walsh was the reason why we got the fortunate victory against Cambridge. [Post edited 17 Aug 8:50]
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What a post !!!
Crikey, would be very nervous if you were my manager, loyalitat !!!
Very critical of players, just adapting to a new environment and new country and new style of play.
Have you ever coached any level of football.
In fact, I think I have worked out who you are, as he said recently all his players from his new team were a disgrace and totally without commitment.
His name - Wayne Rooney. 🙃
Some players will take longer to bed in, just the nature of being human, but your approach would alienate certain players from the get go.
Whether they improve and consolidate, obviously that is the aim with all signings, but your approach is like telling them they are crap from the get go and if there is any possible improvements, being alienated so early would mean zero hope of getting any of these players in the short or medium term performing...
Harsh is the word I would use in response to your thread, and ill conceived. Ie you have given up on them immediately....
I agree though Eze won't be sold this window. Hence why we have to develop all our new players and not just cast them aside because for the first couple of games they have made mistakes or are off the pace. [Post edited 19 Aug 16:08]
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| Eze release clause on 17:18 - Aug 19 with 5138 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Eze release clause on 08:36 - Aug 17 by Loyalitat |
Just as well he's unlikely to be sold, as we'll only go and buy more inexperienced, wet behind the ears players, in terms of their preparedness for the championship. If this incredibly risky strategy were deployed by Hoos and Ferdinand, the message boards and other media channels would be toxic by now.
A. Drewe and O Kakay weren't championship standard, but neither looked as abject as Santos did against third-tier Cambridge. Dunne is looking as out of sorts as Paal, and was equally as culpable in some of the goals conceded last week. However, if the decision were to drop him, we can't, as we have no viable back-up in that position, as Santos is truly awful.
Nardi for mine, was at fault for the first goal too v WBA. He could have come out for the hanging cross that led to their second goal, where both Paal and Dunne were equally culpable at different phases. Now if that first goal, in particular, were conceded by Begovic, there would have been posts aplenty.
I'm not surprised that the MC has said that Walsh will not be going out on loan. "Being good with feet" aside, Walsh has a greater physical presence and in the two games: Coventry last season and Cambridge, has not been afraid to come out into congested areas to either claim or punch the ball away. I don't see that being a prominent feature of Nardi. Walsh was the reason why we got the fortunate victory against Cambridge. [Post edited 17 Aug 8:50]
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| Eze release clause on 18:13 - Aug 19 with 4833 views | richpr |
Skipp to Leicester for 25m - the world has gone mad - one of the least talented players ever to play in the premiership. About the same level as Karl Henry.
If he is worth 25m then Eze is worth at least 75m. Hopefully that will free up a bit of cash so Spurs can buy Eze. | | | |
| Eze release clause on 12:59 - Aug 20 with 4070 views | Juzzie |
| Eze release clause on 18:13 - Aug 19 by richpr |
Skipp to Leicester for 25m - the world has gone mad - one of the least talented players ever to play in the premiership. About the same level as Karl Henry.
If he is worth 25m then Eze is worth at least 75m. Hopefully that will free up a bit of cash so Spurs can buy Eze. |
it's a bit like hyper inflation. All becomes meaningless when the same figures are just rotating around the clubs. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 13:18 - Aug 20 with 3943 views | johnhoop |
| Eze release clause on 18:13 - Aug 19 by richpr |
Skipp to Leicester for 25m - the world has gone mad - one of the least talented players ever to play in the premiership. About the same level as Karl Henry.
If he is worth 25m then Eze is worth at least 75m. Hopefully that will free up a bit of cash so Spurs can buy Eze. |
Becoming more unlikely now they’ve just blown 25 or 30 million on Odobert from Burnley. | | | |
| Eze release clause on 19:38 - Aug 20 with 3332 views | danehoop |
If we are making these purchases it means that we have some degree of certainty of funds coming in. That means either that something is understood to be happening with Eze (still possible within the window, but seems unlikely) or we have some kind of agreement in principle on one or two of our players, which realistically means Chair, Clarke Salter or maybe Field? Might be we anticipate something from Paal, but not sure that adds up to what is needed. Other punt is that Cannon is now gone because of his unfortunate contract situation and the insurance money has paid out.
Otherwise not sure how we are funding this unless we anticipate the end of whatever FFP in the Championship is currently called. |  |
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| Eze release clause on 19:41 - Aug 20 with 3292 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Eze release clause on 19:38 - Aug 20 by danehoop |
If we are making these purchases it means that we have some degree of certainty of funds coming in. That means either that something is understood to be happening with Eze (still possible within the window, but seems unlikely) or we have some kind of agreement in principle on one or two of our players, which realistically means Chair, Clarke Salter or maybe Field? Might be we anticipate something from Paal, but not sure that adds up to what is needed. Other punt is that Cannon is now gone because of his unfortunate contract situation and the insurance money has paid out.
Otherwise not sure how we are funding this unless we anticipate the end of whatever FFP in the Championship is currently called. |
I would really hope, and to be honest I would doubt, that we're spending money based on the possibility of money coming in later. |  |
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| Eze release clause on 20:25 - Aug 20 with 3021 views | Hoopsie |
| Eze release clause on 19:41 - Aug 20 by BrianMcCarthy |
I would really hope, and to be honest I would doubt, that we're spending money based on the possibility of money coming in later. |
Agree, very unNourry and may I add, unQPR of the QPR of today |  |
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| Eze release clause on 20:53 - Aug 20 with 2904 views | stevec |
| Eze release clause on 19:41 - Aug 20 by BrianMcCarthy |
I would really hope, and to be honest I would doubt, that we're spending money based on the possibility of money coming in later. |
The fact we’ve got 21/22 out of the equation has probably given us enough space to manoeuvre this season without immediately having to make player sales.
If Eze moves on anytime in the next two seasons, problem solved. We also have a player or two who could alleviate issues for a season whenever they leave, likewise if one of the new signings steps up.
Worth having a go as this league might be a little more open than usual. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 21:32 - Aug 20 with 2737 views | Gus_iom |
| Eze release clause on 18:13 - Aug 19 by richpr |
Skipp to Leicester for 25m - the world has gone mad - one of the least talented players ever to play in the premiership. About the same level as Karl Henry.
If he is worth 25m then Eze is worth at least 75m. Hopefully that will free up a bit of cash so Spurs can buy Eze. |
Skipp, alongside Winks.
Proper boring, sludgey midfield pairing, that. Absolutely characterless. | | | |
| Eze release clause on 21:40 - Aug 20 with 2649 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Eze release clause on 20:53 - Aug 20 by stevec |
The fact we’ve got 21/22 out of the equation has probably given us enough space to manoeuvre this season without immediately having to make player sales.
If Eze moves on anytime in the next two seasons, problem solved. We also have a player or two who could alleviate issues for a season whenever they leave, likewise if one of the new signings steps up.
Worth having a go as this league might be a little more open than usual. |
Completely agree, Steve.
But Eze, and our players, could all leave on free transfers.
I really hope we're not planning on future income that we can't control, is all. | |
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| Eze release clause on 22:22 - Aug 20 with 2427 views | wombat |
| Eze release clause on 21:40 - Aug 20 by BrianMcCarthy |
Completely agree, Steve.
But Eze, and our players, could all leave on free transfers.
I really hope we're not planning on future income that we can't control, is all. |
Rumour is Eze fancies a move to spurs , not sure likely now but that’s his preferred destination , also think my e Liverpool might fancy him for some reason |  |
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| Eze release clause on 23:00 - Aug 20 with 2292 views | daveB |
| Eze release clause on 20:53 - Aug 20 by stevec |
The fact we’ve got 21/22 out of the equation has probably given us enough space to manoeuvre this season without immediately having to make player sales.
If Eze moves on anytime in the next two seasons, problem solved. We also have a player or two who could alleviate issues for a season whenever they leave, likewise if one of the new signings steps up.
Worth having a go as this league might be a little more open than usual. |
I remember saying exactly that in 2021 |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 09:32 - Aug 21 with 1588 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Eze release clause on 23:00 - Aug 20 by daveB |
I remember saying exactly that in 2021 |
Me too - I am totally torn as yet again we appear to be on a signing frenzy which is undeniably exciting, but at what future cost?
Then again, what's the point of being a football club? To balance the books, or have a go?
I guess the best clubs do both, not one or the other. |  | | |
| Eze release clause on 09:45 - Aug 21 with 1430 views | jeffranger |
This EZE thing is getting on my nerves, every time there’s a rumour of maybe a bid up it comes, can’t think for one minute we are relying on the money we get for him if he leaves, if he goes fine if not tuff & we move on & forget about him | | | |
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