| Southampton 19:47 - May 17 with 12023 views | guthrieintherain |
Martin now 1/3 fav to land the job. |  |
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| Southampton on 14:05 - May 18 with 1945 views | raynor94 |
| Southampton on 12:42 - May 18 by guthrieintherain |
Not sure all clubs will have had ups and downs but over 46 games we finished where we deserved to finish.
Confidence appeared to drop very quickly that's why we could of done with some added experience.
But you can't criticise the bad runs without praiasing the good runs
Otherwise you come accross as having an agenda it needs to be balanced and fair. [Post edited 18 May 2023 12:44]
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| Southampton on 14:27 - May 18 with 1897 views | pencoedjack |
| Southampton on 12:01 - May 18 by Fireboy2 |
Haha nice one, there are plenty on here who think after only a total of 9 seasons in our 121 year history in the top division that we belong there.
As I have said some people need to stop moaning and know their place. |
Not sure many people believe we should be in the PL but I personally know a lot of people who believe that we should of done better with this group of players.
Anyway we can go round in circles, some people are pro Martin others think he's pretty average (at best).
As I have made it clear I am not a fan & would be more than happy if he took his project to Southampton, obviously its not going to happen as he has made numerous statements saying he was here to see the project through which a lot of fans took as gospel. |  | | |
| Southampton on 14:47 - May 18 with 1875 views | KeithHaynes |
| Southampton on 14:27 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
Not sure many people believe we should be in the PL but I personally know a lot of people who believe that we should of done better with this group of players.
Anyway we can go round in circles, some people are pro Martin others think he's pretty average (at best).
As I have made it clear I am not a fan & would be more than happy if he took his project to Southampton, obviously its not going to happen as he has made numerous statements saying he was here to see the project through which a lot of fans took as gospel. |
£ talks no matter how much talk came before it.
If he goes, he goes, if he stays he stays, we just need it sorting mate. |  |
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| Southampton on 15:41 - May 18 with 1795 views | Badlands |
| Southampton on 14:27 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
Not sure many people believe we should be in the PL but I personally know a lot of people who believe that we should of done better with this group of players.
Anyway we can go round in circles, some people are pro Martin others think he's pretty average (at best).
As I have made it clear I am not a fan & would be more than happy if he took his project to Southampton, obviously its not going to happen as he has made numerous statements saying he was here to see the project through which a lot of fans took as gospel. |
Cooper had the best chance of returning to the Prem with the squad and funds at his disposal … bottled it … twice. |  |
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| Southampton on 15:42 - May 18 with 1791 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Southampton on 14:47 - May 18 by KeithHaynes |
£ talks no matter how much talk came before it.
If he goes, he goes, if he stays he stays, we just need it sorting mate. |
It is hard to think he flew to the USA and did not come back with a potential deliverables in the form of a promise of a new contract for himself Wood, Piroe and Latibeaudire and afinal offer for Manning. l would hope he would also agree at least the out line of a plan of action associated to a budget outline. |  |
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| Southampton on 15:42 - May 18 with 1794 views | swan_si |
| Southampton on 13:49 - May 18 by Dr_Winston |
Most clubs will be able to point to disappointing results or patches of bad form throughout a season. That's a given.
The problem is you can't really praise the good runs of form we went on early and late in the season without considering why the exact same players were so awful in the middle of it.
If discussing the reasons why we had such a horrendous run of form for so long when the players were clearly capable of better is an agenda then so be it. |
We didn't have " the exact same players", our bad run started about the same time your mate threw his toys out of his pram, leaving us shy of a goal scorer with pace, lucky for us we had Cullen waiting in the wings. |  | | |
| Southampton on 15:45 - May 18 with 1786 views | guthrieintherain |
| Southampton on 14:27 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
Not sure many people believe we should be in the PL but I personally know a lot of people who believe that we should of done better with this group of players.
Anyway we can go round in circles, some people are pro Martin others think he's pretty average (at best).
As I have made it clear I am not a fan & would be more than happy if he took his project to Southampton, obviously its not going to happen as he has made numerous statements saying he was here to see the project through which a lot of fans took as gospel. |
Who took it as gospel no manager stays forever and very few if any on here said he would be loyal if a better paid job with more spending power came along.
Perhaps you could dig a few posts out with that viewpoint.
Martin is no different to any of the other managers we have had as regards loyalty it don't exist in football anymore. | |
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| Southampton on 16:46 - May 18 with 1714 views | Dr_Winston |
| Southampton on 15:42 - May 18 by swan_si |
We didn't have " the exact same players", our bad run started about the same time your mate threw his toys out of his pram, leaving us shy of a goal scorer with pace, lucky for us we had Cullen waiting in the wings. |
So Obafemi was the reason we conceded so many goals? Are you seriously claiming that? Russy was forced to play three at the back for months because a striker was acting up a bit?
As excuses go, that's a corker. One of the madder attempts to divert any blame from the man in charge. [Post edited 18 May 2023 17:20]
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| Southampton on 17:35 - May 18 with 1654 views | pencoedjack |
| Southampton on 15:45 - May 18 by guthrieintherain |
Who took it as gospel no manager stays forever and very few if any on here said he would be loyal if a better paid job with more spending power came along.
Perhaps you could dig a few posts out with that viewpoint.
Martin is no different to any of the other managers we have had as regards loyalty it don't exist in football anymore. |
Oh come on, anything said about negative about Martin on this site a few weeks ago was hijacked & posters were classed as anti Swansea City.
I can’t be arsed to search but I was disappointed with comments from some decent posters on here.
As I said I’m not a fan & wouldn’t be that bothered if he left, if I thought he’d learnt from his mistakes & not his believe his own vanity project was flawed I’d be happy for him to stay.
The Russy fan boys would go into meltdown if he left. | | | |
| Southampton on 17:38 - May 18 with 1652 views | onehunglow |
Here we go again.
Those who believe Martin is basically Indefectible and those who believe his stock is incredible given his lack of success .
10 th in a poor ChAmpionship is not success
Main reason I would like him gone is to heal the rift between fans which is now embarrassing
Martin is the best self promoter we have ever had . | |
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| Southampton on 17:41 - May 18 with 1644 views | pencoedjack |
| Southampton on 17:38 - May 18 by onehunglow |
Here we go again.
Those who believe Martin is basically Indefectible and those who believe his stock is incredible given his lack of success .
10 th in a poor ChAmpionship is not success
Main reason I would like him gone is to heal the rift between fans which is now embarrassing
Martin is the best self promoter we have ever had . |
He’s certainly on par with Brendan but Rodgers achieved something. | | | |
| Southampton on 17:47 - May 18 with 1640 views | Fireboy2 |
| Southampton on 16:46 - May 18 by Dr_Winston |
So Obafemi was the reason we conceded so many goals? Are you seriously claiming that? Russy was forced to play three at the back for months because a striker was acting up a bit?
As excuses go, that's a corker. One of the madder attempts to divert any blame from the man in charge. [Post edited 18 May 2023 17:20]
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Attack is the best form of defence, obafemi being a spoilt t@#£ took away a vital part of attack, pace. |  | | |
| Southampton on 17:52 - May 18 with 1630 views | onehunglow |
| Southampton on 17:41 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
He’s certainly on par with Brendan but Rodgers achieved something. |
No way as good imo.
Rodgers at least got us to the Promised Land | |
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| Southampton on 18:04 - May 18 with 1605 views | EagleEye |
| Southampton on 15:41 - May 18 by Badlands |
Cooper had the best chance of returning to the Prem with the squad and funds at his disposal … bottled it … twice. |
Cooper got us to 2 play offs with many players in the squad only joining us because of him. We were beaten by better sides on both occasions.
Russy flatters to deceive. We should have made the play offs this season but he persisted way too long with the 3 at the back project. None of the sides in the play offs would have fancied their chances against us over 2 legs. A missed opportunity even without a right sided attack option |  | | |
| Southampton on 18:06 - May 18 with 1601 views | builthjack |
| Southampton on 17:38 - May 18 by onehunglow |
Here we go again.
Those who believe Martin is basically Indefectible and those who believe his stock is incredible given his lack of success .
10 th in a poor ChAmpionship is not success
Main reason I would like him gone is to heal the rift between fans which is now embarrassing
Martin is the best self promoter we have ever had . |
Potter finished 10th too, on 65 points.
Russ had 66. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Southampton on 18:37 - May 18 with 1549 views | guthrieintherain |
| Southampton on 17:35 - May 18 by pencoedjack |
Oh come on, anything said about negative about Martin on this site a few weeks ago was hijacked & posters were classed as anti Swansea City.
I can’t be arsed to search but I was disappointed with comments from some decent posters on here.
As I said I’m not a fan & wouldn’t be that bothered if he left, if I thought he’d learnt from his mistakes & not his believe his own vanity project was flawed I’d be happy for him to stay.
The Russy fan boys would go into meltdown if he left. |
I can't speak for anyone else but personally I am not anti or pro Martin.
If we play well I give credit if we are poor I will say so as well.
Some posters will put themselves in a corner and are then to stubborn to change their viewpoint.
Fair play to you though you gave credit on the recent good run which was a nice touch. | |
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| Southampton on 18:42 - May 18 with 1536 views | shingle |
| Southampton on 20:29 - May 17 by pencoedjack |
I thought he loved the club & wanted to see the project through?
If Martin leaves the meltdown will be greater than Roberto, Rodger’s & Potter combined. |
Yes your right after all we only lost 18 games under him this season. | | | |
| Southampton on 18:45 - May 18 with 1529 views | shingle |
| Southampton on 21:09 - May 17 by blackpooljack |
I for one would be most upset if he went, granted we've had bad runs and matches BUT when it has clicked its been far better than we saw under the previous two managers |
Got to two playoffs under the previous manager  | | | |
| Southampton on 18:49 - May 18 with 1520 views | raynor94 |
| Southampton on 18:42 - May 18 by shingle |
Yes your right after all we only lost 18 games under him this season. |
16 games, Middlesbrough lost 15, fine margins | |
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| Southampton on 18:53 - May 18 with 1507 views | KeithHaynes |
| Southampton on 18:45 - May 18 by shingle |
Got to two playoffs under the previous manager |
According to some that’s not good enough and may have well finished outside the playoffs. | |
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| Southampton on 18:53 - May 18 with 1507 views | swan_si |
| Southampton on 16:46 - May 18 by Dr_Winston |
So Obafemi was the reason we conceded so many goals? Are you seriously claiming that? Russy was forced to play three at the back for months because a striker was acting up a bit?
As excuses go, that's a corker. One of the madder attempts to divert any blame from the man in charge. [Post edited 18 May 2023 17:20]
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Not diverting anything doc, I replied to your statement of (non)fact 🤔, we didn't have, the exact same team.
There was no mention of goals conceded, or, formation, how you managed to try and twist my post is madder than any mad attempt to divert any blame away from the man in charge. What a 🤡. | | | |
| Southampton on 20:40 - May 18 with 1362 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Southampton on 18:53 - May 18 by swan_si |
Not diverting anything doc, I replied to your statement of (non)fact 🤔, we didn't have, the exact same team.
There was no mention of goals conceded, or, formation, how you managed to try and twist my post is madder than any mad attempt to divert any blame away from the man in charge. What a 🤡. |
You said we didnt have Obafemi so surely it's a fair enough question, was scoring goals our problem?
I could argue that Obafemi was more trouble than help and we needed rid of him. That aside our big problem was conceding too many soft goals and having to chase games far too often when we had evidence that the team was good enough to do better.
The man in charge has to carry the can for team formation and tactics and for team selection.
Though I do seem to remember a poster saying he didn't think the manager/coach had much influence on the team, or did Imake that up. | | | |
| Southampton on 20:48 - May 18 with 1342 views | Gwyn737 |
| Southampton on 18:37 - May 18 by guthrieintherain |
I can't speak for anyone else but personally I am not anti or pro Martin.
If we play well I give credit if we are poor I will say so as well.
Some posters will put themselves in a corner and are then to stubborn to change their viewpoint.
Fair play to you though you gave credit on the recent good run which was a nice touch. |
That’s pretty much where I am on Martin.
I may be wrong, but I can’t see many worshippers on here; nobody has held him up as the messiah IMO.
There are some painting themselves in the negative corner though. There’s an easy way to identify them, they call Martin ‘Russy’. | | | |
| Southampton on 20:58 - May 18 with 1330 views | swan_si |
| Southampton on 20:40 - May 18 by SullutaCreturned |
You said we didnt have Obafemi so surely it's a fair enough question, was scoring goals our problem?
I could argue that Obafemi was more trouble than help and we needed rid of him. That aside our big problem was conceding too many soft goals and having to chase games far too often when we had evidence that the team was good enough to do better.
The man in charge has to carry the can for team formation and tactics and for team selection.
Though I do seem to remember a poster saying he didn't think the manager/coach had much influence on the team, or did Imake that up. |
I pointed out to the good doc, that we didn't have " the exact same team ", as he claimed, and the reason why we didn't have the exact same team, once again, no mention of goals conceded, or, formation. That was my response to a false factual statement. | | | |
| Southampton on 21:02 - May 18 with 1313 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Southampton on 20:48 - May 18 by Gwyn737 |
That’s pretty much where I am on Martin.
I may be wrong, but I can’t see many worshippers on here; nobody has held him up as the messiah IMO.
There are some painting themselves in the negative corner though. There’s an easy way to identify them, they call Martin ‘Russy’. |
Assuming he's still here I'm giving him the first month of the season, if we have carried on as we just finished then all will be fine. However, if we have reverted again then it's toys out the pram time!
I will qualify that with it could also depend on the transfer window, who we sign and who leaves. A lot could change in the next few months. A football club is a very fluid beast. | | | |
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