| Home & Away Tactics 21:26 - Dec 2 with 7811 views | INFIRMARY |
Why is it so different ? can we not just set out our stall and say attack when at home and away , as clearly we can't defend or contain a team for a full 90+ mins , Harry sry but we are just not good enough trying to contain teams away from home |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 21:30 - Dec 2 with 6312 views | INFIRMARY |
To add to this , by the time Arry wakes up to this we will be dead and buried in Prem League | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 21:37 - Dec 2 with 6279 views | hoops_legend |
I honestly do not get it either at all. Lets just attack like we do st home and go down fighting rather than watching some awful display to lose meekly. It honestly couldnt go any worse
Why dont they learn. The other plan woild be if we really wsnt yo defend is put everyone behind the ball and just have charlie and taarabt up the top and prey they can do something. Worked vs chelsea awsy snd cant be worse tjan tonight
Go on harry.. give taarabt one last chance |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 21:41 - Dec 2 with 6215 views | simmo |
Another away game where we don't try to score. Play not to lose and lose anyway. A joke.
We're gonna be absolutely fcked for Saturday too |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 21:45 - Dec 2 with 6178 views | Lewes_r |
they are hardly an unbeatable top 4 type team either. its so defeatist |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 21:52 - Dec 2 with 6122 views | bosh67 |
On one post match interview said he didn't know why we were so poor away from home and suggested that we may need to be more conservative when we play away.
More conservative than what? My dad and I just looked at each other.
I don't think this division is rocket science
Take the game to the opposition home and away and you stand a chance of getting something from the game.
Sit back and defend and it's just a question of how many you get beaten by. Sadly sit back and defend is our default tactic away from LR. |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 22:02 - Dec 2 with 6064 views | BklynRanger |
Harold just seems to hope for the best with some of the choices, it's as if they'll need to be on the absolute top of their game for his wishes to come true. Green was anyway and it still wasn't enough.
Niko in the hole behind Charlie might work in the Championship but in open play he's just going to get outpaced and swamped at this level.
Yes, Nedum might stop Montero a bit more realiably than Isla will, but that means swapping a strong partnership down the right to leave Vargas stranded ahead of a confused centre back.
Joey will always battle and does a lot of work he doesn't get credit for, but he's back to giving the ball away all the time so the effects of Sandro's injury will need to be thought about a bit more than 'let's just chuck Joey in'.
And on top of that there's the fact that players just get mentally and physically tired when it's backs to the wall for 75 - 80 minutes. You can say that they should be switched on for 95 minutes but you have to set the team up to give them a chance in the first place. |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 22:07 - Dec 2 with 6028 views | Cornish_oooRRRR |
I think they had better players than anybody initially thought, but the example Southhampton set last year I thought would bring a change in attitude to playing away/being the underdog.
Just f*cking go for it! |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 22:22 - Dec 2 with 5999 views | actonman |
| Home & Away Tactics on 22:02 - Dec 2 by BklynRanger |
Harold just seems to hope for the best with some of the choices, it's as if they'll need to be on the absolute top of their game for his wishes to come true. Green was anyway and it still wasn't enough.
Niko in the hole behind Charlie might work in the Championship but in open play he's just going to get outpaced and swamped at this level.
Yes, Nedum might stop Montero a bit more realiably than Isla will, but that means swapping a strong partnership down the right to leave Vargas stranded ahead of a confused centre back.
Joey will always battle and does a lot of work he doesn't get credit for, but he's back to giving the ball away all the time so the effects of Sandro's injury will need to be thought about a bit more than 'let's just chuck Joey in'.
And on top of that there's the fact that players just get mentally and physically tired when it's backs to the wall for 75 - 80 minutes. You can say that they should be switched on for 95 minutes but you have to set the team up to give them a chance in the first place. |
arry has no tactics i'm afraid. Proper old school manager, stock up with a group of triffic lads who have been there and done that and let them get on with it.
this may have been all well and good ten years ago but in this day and age a manager has to manage the team during the game and react to things as they happen.
i think any one of us tonight could see we where getting our arses handed to us and it was only a matter of time before swansea scored but we carried on anyway.
look at gary monk for instance , had his team well drilled from the off, allways moving, allways had someone available and everytime we got the ball there was 2 - 3 swans closing down straight away forcing us to give the ball away every time we got hold of it.
even my 10 year old could see it and said we look like were playing with 9 men. |  | | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 22:58 - Dec 2 with 5950 views | WestonsuperR |
After 7 (8 if you include Burton) away performances surely it is now time to throw caution to the wind and give it a real go v Everton. Tonight was as bad as any Away match this season and once again we appeared to be trying for a 0v0.
So disappointing that we appear to have learnt almost nothing form all theses defeats so far. What is worse that teams lose matches and are unlucky but we have deserved absolutely nothing from each and every Away game this season and I include Chelsea in that who should have been 2 or 3 up and out of sight by half time |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 23:30 - Dec 2 with 5913 views | kropotkin41 |
I honestly cannot see the logic in losing more away games through trying to defend a 0-0 scoreline.
It makes no sense at all. Here's a case in point: why does Yun look like he's been told not to go down the wing away from home? Actually the examples go on: why does Barton always end up passing backwards? Why does Vargas end up running around with the ball and there's no-one to pass to? Why does the ball go back to Dunne so often and then he just boots it up the pitch invariably to the other side?
Why was Fer even playing when he looked so out of it?
Giving the ball away so often points to lack of a plan, lack of movement, confusion all round.
I mean, wtf is going on here? It's bizarre. |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 23:36 - Dec 2 with 5898 views | Brightonhoop |
Redknapp has to go in the morning. From Burton to Spurs and Man Utd away we lost 2-0 to Swansea ffs and Routledge scored against us.
Never seen Rangers gift points away so easily in 40+ years.
I'll tune in again when HR is gone, no points away until that time....we are down. |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 23:46 - Dec 2 with 5859 views | kropotkin41 |
A performance like that gives him no right to hide. If we'd been beaten away from home but had attacked, looked organised and looked as if we had a plan, fine, no complaints, I suspect our GD would be better. But looking like we've just got no idea what to do and relying on world class saves from Green for 90 minutes............ that doesn't give Harry any wriggle room. | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 23:59 - Dec 2 with 5833 views | BklynRanger |
A bit calm and complacent there isn't he? | | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 00:02 - Dec 3 with 5831 views | Brightonhoop |
0 points in August and none in December away. Nobody can turn that form around in December. | | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 00:17 - Dec 3 with 5813 views | daveB |
tactics away from home are baffling, playing for a point but the 11 on the pitch so unsuited to that, if you are going for a draw play Isla right wing, leave out Fer and Niko play a defensive team not a team of attacking players and ask them to play defensive. Bizarre, we are so good at home to play so different away makes no sense at all |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 00:26 - Dec 3 with 5800 views | Nov77 |
That's 8 away defeats in a row, got to be close to a record, even for us.
I reckon Harry's big mistake at away games is telling the players to "just go out and treat it like an FA cup tie"  |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 08:34 - Dec 3 with 5679 views | simmo |
It's the lack of trying to trouble the opposition goal I can't cope with. If you're going to sit deep, really fckin deep, then play a few pacey players so that when you recover possession you can break away at pace and give yourself the chance to get up the other end before they settle back into a shape. Instead we recover the ball and play it aaround our 4 defenders until inevitably we have to kick it long and lose it or get robbed 30 yards from our goal.
The amount of goals Swansea could have scored last night is incredible, take away missed opportunities, Green heroics and a slightly misfiring Bony and they could have banged in 4 times as many as they did.
It must be down to the management, must be. It's impossible to have the same team go from over 30 attempts to fck all without giving them instructions. | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 08:38 - Dec 3 with 5670 views | traininvain |
Another poor away performance but worth noting that we've yet to play a team in the bottom half of the table away from home... |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 08:40 - Dec 3 with 5664 views | simmo |
| Home & Away Tactics on 08:38 - Dec 3 by traininvain |
Another poor away performance but worth noting that we've yet to play a team in the bottom half of the table away from home... |
We could play anybody in this league the same way and we'd still lose. 2 goals in 8 games and losing every single one?? You can't turn up, not try to score a goal and hope you come out of it alright. It's a disgrace. | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 08:55 - Dec 3 with 5636 views | kropotkin41 |
If for a moment, gentlemen, we cast our minds back to the mostly gormless, direction-less and slightly rabbit-in-the-headlights way we played pretty much for the whole of last season, and then again, but arguably even worse during every game at the start of this season, that was what happened last night. The only difference I thought, was that effort levels were by and large good - Fer aside who looked like he'd been drugged.
Now apparently Harry is talking about being more conservative away from home to secure some points. If this is the case then he really has lost it. In the first part of the second half last night we not only silenced the Swansea fans, but we effectively put a halt to their brand of football. If we'd actually had a something to offer by way of our own plan as well - a simple enough proposition you might think - we could have at least carried a threat, had a go,............. erm.............. scored ffs!
Wasted effort, demoralising, wasted effort, that's what it amounts to. And that, Mr Redknapp et al, is how to throw away the little bit of momentum we've built up in recent weeks............ Burnley will be a hell of a struggle on Saturday. | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 09:01 - Dec 3 with 5621 views | simmo |
The wasted energy comment is a good one, Austin especially sacrificed himself for the good of the team and had zero reward. Our players will be leggy and demoralised going into a game with a form team, full of enrgy, enthusiasm and commitment. I'll be very surprised if certain players aren't suffering after an hour at LR. | |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 09:01 - Dec 3 with 5617 views | DANRANGER |
There is absolutely no urgency in our away performances. What frustrates me the most is that everyone can see it, except Redknapp. He is renowned as being poor at setting up to play away as any West Ham fan would testify but the way he is going we will have to win 12 home games to have a chance of staying up.
We rode our luck 1st half and it looked like he changed it slightly second half but not enough to influence the result. Having survived until half time he should have attacked them second half as it was inevitable they would take a chance at some stage as have all our other opponents away.
Also, his post match interview was awful and came across as if he is doing all he can and clearly isn't his fault. Questions need to be asked and don't let him wriggle out of it.
Team selection is awful. As has been said, you want to sit deep you need pace and ball carriers so although Hoilett, Phillips have been poor they wouldn't do any less than Fer, Kranjcar and you can easily set up training games to work on systems for away games and Harry can watch from his office.
fcking sort it out!!!!!! |  | | |
| Home & Away Tactics on 09:21 - Dec 3 with 5579 views | QPunkR |
A fúcking shambles. What the blue fúck is the harm in trying to win a game?! Shirley history has told our fúcktard manager by now that setting out for a 0-0 hasn't worked for him this season. Not a once. Yet he keeps doing it.
Tactics? Tactics?! Tictacs maybe.
I did find myself wandering aloud why every. cúnting. time. we got the ball we ponced it across the back four - slowly - rather than hitting Swansea on the break. Vargas was the only player to actually want to take the game to them but he was constantly alone up there. Without Green that result would've been embarrassing.
Onuoha - awful. He should be told whenever he receives the ball to put his laces through it as he has zero close control.
And as for Jesus Barton - why why why why why why why why why why why (same goes for that charlatan Fer)
Krancjar was obviously bollocksed at the end and we should've taken him off and introduced Traore to the wing for a bit of pace.
But no, Arry. We wuz unlucky, right? |  |
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| Home & Away Tactics on 09:26 - Dec 3 with 5563 views | wombat |
| Home & Away Tactics on 09:21 - Dec 3 by QPunkR |
A fúcking shambles. What the blue fúck is the harm in trying to win a game?! Shirley history has told our fúcktard manager by now that setting out for a 0-0 hasn't worked for him this season. Not a once. Yet he keeps doing it.
Tactics? Tactics?! Tictacs maybe.
I did find myself wandering aloud why every. cúnting. time. we got the ball we ponced it across the back four - slowly - rather than hitting Swansea on the break. Vargas was the only player to actually want to take the game to them but he was constantly alone up there. Without Green that result would've been embarrassing.
Onuoha - awful. He should be told whenever he receives the ball to put his laces through it as he has zero close control.
And as for Jesus Barton - why why why why why why why why why why why (same goes for that charlatan Fer)
Krancjar was obviously bollocksed at the end and we should've taken him off and introduced Traore to the wing for a bit of pace.
But no, Arry. We wuz unlucky, right? |
given up on away games in recent months , cant see the point paying shed loads travellking time to watch the same dross each away game , going to arsenal no idea why apart from getting the outlaws boxing day for a few hours |  |
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