Went into this one really hopeful after a great transfer deadline day. But this was awful from Saints. Like every body else I really want RM to succeed but today we were beaten by a committed young team playing sensible football. Mowbray took RM to the cleaners, kept it simple with players understanding their roles and executing the straightforward plan very effectively. Saints over complicated everything. Slow build up didn't move Sunderland around and every misplaced pass or interception created chaos with nobody in the right position especially the full backs. As a result Bednarek and Holgate completely exposed. Lots and lots of work to do to play this style when something more straightforward might be more effective.

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Went into this one really hopeful after a great transfer deadline day. But this was awful from Saints. Like every body else I really want RM to succeed but today we were beaten by a committed young team playing sensible football. Mowbray took RM to the cleaners, kept it simple with players understanding their roles and executing the straightforward plan very effectively. Saints over complicated everything. Slow build up didn't move Sunderland around and every misplaced pass or interception created chaos with nobody in the right position especially the full backs. As a result Bednarek and Holgate completely exposed. Lots and lots of work to do to play this style when something more straightforward might be more effective.

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I didn't go to the match but the same old issues from the past few seasons still haven't been addressed. The concern from reading comments on various websites about a non competitive midfield is a worry considering the issues in defence and up front.

As others have said we need to mix up the way we set up and play as teams know what we're going to do in every match and our happy to let us keep the ball for 70%+ knowing that we need 5 chances to score 1 goal but they only need one shot on target to score.

As nick mentioned on the Perraud article RM is his own man so he's unlikely to change. Not great news for Saints fans as we do not have the players who can succeed in our playing and beating even average teams who are well drilled never mind decent teams.

We've got so much potential in this club but the owners sole interest is making money from developing young players for other clubs. The antithesis of a recipe for success. COYRs

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Comments such a those for DPeps are just anal...'Holgates first game so I forgive him'!!!! Seriously???? He's a highly paid professional footballer,so no excuse for that performance...which obviously includes RM...how can any manager pick him above Charles, who was, imo, very unlucky to lose his midfield role let alone not at least CB before MH!!
Last week Nick defended RM as his ówn man in preferring manning to Perraud....decisions like that only work if they're the right ones!!
I was at the game yesterday, and came away totally embarrassed. Sunderland will not get close to getting out of this league, and they hammered us 5 - 0 ....Nick, I'm hoping for an honest verdict from you...RH has to wake up. Charles and our best players do not need to be wrapped up in cotton wool at this stage...maybe in December with 4 games in 12 days understood....use the squad, but nobody should try and defend his selection yesterday....plus RH has to recognise his mistakes, of which Manning is one....

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Does anyone not see kwp at the start of games ?
He doesn't play for 20min ! He reminds me of Bertie .
The number of games we concede early when kwp isn't running drives me nuts.
Take this game , he goes forward for the early corner ( some idiot thinks it's a good idea to leave Edozie back, someone who isn't quick isn't strong and has never won a tackle)
Edozie gets to his man and acts like jelly but the RB is WALKING back ! When they get to our area he is stil walking ! When the goal goes in he just turns away .
Every game 20min he doesn't run back ! Doesn't he warm up ? He sure as heck is t ready to start at full speed , god this drives me mad !
The second goal goes in he still hasn't got in position, made a tackle or ran back , oh he loves goin forward.
I wonder why no offers came in for him this summer ( clue , he can't defend ) as a defender he is clueless, going forward he's better , but he can't cross a ball to save himself.
Just move him to the wing and play a RB behind him , that might help !
Sorry rant over :'-(

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Frazer, Charles and Adams should have started.
Obviously Holgate and Smallbone too early.
Manning and Mara might make the next bench -but need to work very hard in training.*

(*Ask Mr Mowbray to attend one of our training sessions in the next two weeks to see who meets his criteria for hard work.)

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KWP should be sat down by the staff and shown his dreadful commitment to defending.

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