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Reply | Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day Thread
at 13:34 26 Dec 2024
Was he signed on a four year contract? It would seem like pure folly to sell him now unless there are issues with fitness.
Grimes need someone who can let him get further up the park, I personally don't want Grimes anywhere near our defensive third, where he is expected to be the primary protection for the defence he is too slow and primary distributor of the ball there is no need for him there half the time he is, want to see him offering himself further up the park.
Let's see if we can hold onto some quality new midfielders so the old guarded can be rested. |
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Reply | January Transfer Thread
at 13:17 26 Dec 2024
Thimk William's was tryng to find a team that could score more goals, the forward midfield was generally occupied by Cooper but it would seem that Cooper injury also influenced Cullen's move to the advanced midfield role.
Williams has tried small changes in general to find that elusive consistency, the balance between attacking and defending except the weeks with midweek games which he seemed forced to make changes maybe because of the niggling injuries to players which are kept under wraps .
As for Vipotnik it would seem he is just another player written off because he is just not good enough.
Presume most of these supposedly not up to it players have been playing for years and having been trained coached and in a lot of cases into playing football in a certain ways. When Vipotnik was brought here someone thought there was a good footballer in there, Cullen, Cooper Whittaker, Kuharevich, Yates all apparently not good enough for some. Yes players dumped into an inexperienced team in positions they are not accustomed to, with very little service or quality to that service is going to struggle "to find their feet."
The game against Hull the whole team was shockingly bad, second half against Cardiff the whole team was shockingly bad, Against Wycombe the whole team was shockingly bad. This isn't because of individual players these were games where we could not counter the opposition's tactics that is solely down to the coach.
He has to learn one size does not fit all and we keep making the same mistakes, the same mistakes we made under Martin.
Time will tell if William's can sort it out finding the positions for players to fit into a team but also what works and what doesn't on a consistent basis. |
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Reply | January Transfer Thread
at 22:09 24 Dec 2024
Sorry but tend to think that we are blaming the wrong people for others peoples bad descions. I really think it is a bad idea to have a sole centre forward tiring themselves out to chase the ball down that is being stroked by a couple of players including the goalkeeper, if the press is really committed to then the full team needs compete for every ball played and not let it be stroked around at ease.As long as we are organised defensively let the goalies come out as far as he likes, they soon get nose bleeds coming out far up the pitch even over committing forward.
Vipotnik is never going to do what is being asked of him and be effective in a goal scoring sense, look at the change in Cullen once that he was relieved of that duty, Vipotnik has started scored with the meager service supplied but has had to hold the ball up for the none effective or existent support |
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Reply | January Transfer Thread
at 16:56 24 Dec 2024
I hoping with allthe talk of needed transfers the likes of Bianchini and Vipotnik are given more time to develop, a better service I'm sure would help them,some of the service to them has been poor and at best inconsistent little chipped balls badly placed and differcult to control as they tmove trying to find space and like many of our forwards their runs down channels have largely been opportunities missed. Cabango last season played a number excellent number of balls to Ronald as opposed to the forced ones into the middle of the park in crowded areas.
Ronald when he first arrived was fed balls quickly at almost every opportunity now every ball to Ronald seems to have to go through a full back standing two yards away or the full back has to run 10 yards before he is prepared to pass the ball which is slowing down their service dramatically, perhaps it is slowed down to get some support in the middle.
Let's not throw the likes of Bianchini and Vipotnik on the dustbin just as they are starting to find their feet in a pretty dysfunctional team at rhe moment. |
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Reply | Cabango to be revealed as signing a new contract tomorrow ?
at 13:07 24 Dec 2024
Can we afford to keep giving away quality midfield players, If you can bring in two good midfielders for the money paid but don't think we can afford to leave him go otherwise because in the playing department we are looking toothless in the midfield. |
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Reply | Luke Cundle
at 12:35 24 Dec 2024
Would he be the shining light in the midfield🙃 |
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Reply | Cabango to be revealed as signing a new contract tomorrow ?
at 12:34 24 Dec 2024
Good to get that one over the line.
Would like our Centre halves more combative under the high ball meaning we end up going forward instead of backwards and also reduces the need for the midfield to drop deep, it takes its toll on the legs especially if you are expecting the midfield to do both the dropping deep thing and getting forward to support the forwards be it in a press or in powerful dynamic attacking role. |
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Reply | Luke Cundle
at 12:04 24 Dec 2024
I wouldn't want him back as a loan, a loan with the option to buy maybe |
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Reply | Luke Cundle
at 11:57 24 Dec 2024
Wouldn't be the first player to return and prove some worth to the club? |
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Reply | The folly of selecting Grimes
at 11:19 24 Dec 2024
He did get a settled team going with Patino, Paterson and Grimes each offering themselves in the midfield but we set up defensively against Leicester and no-one would say those three are the best playing defensively but others ""didn't"" have the experience to counter their attack, he dropped the inexperienced Platino don't think we played well again after that.
Young inexperienced players are always going to make mistake even if they are playing in their preferred position but as with Guehi you shouldn't cast them aside after one bad preformance, for me that descion ended with the demise of Duff because he lacked any other viable alternatives.
Edited to read "Didn't" (see quotation mark in the text) as often happens while writing auto corrects to "did" which makes no sense at all. [Post edited 24 Dec 14:26]
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Reply | Cabango to be revealed as signing a new contract tomorrow ?
at 10:54 24 Dec 2024
Played him on the left side of the back three with Brabdiy Cooper in the middle and kept eft footed Rhys Williams on the right against Brighton in the cup if I remember rightly also played him on the left, middle and right of a back three with very little protection for the flanks, when Darling and Wood arrived alternated them along the back line with Naughton and even though they had a run of good games would rejig the team when one bad loss suffered against good teams, very little continuity in the back line which I would say Darling, Wood and Cabango suffered because of.
With William's he has had a level of continuity but in William's endeavour to find a working attacking option the defence has suffered when there was very little wrong with the back line except the fullback being asked to push forward to compensate for deficiencies in other areas of the pitch. |
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Reply | Cabango to be revealed as signing a new contract tomorrow ?
at 10:17 24 Dec 2024
Yes and that was why the good old fashion Sweeper was used to protect the centrehalf who would be used primarily attack the ball in the air matching a big burly centre forward who do seem to be used by lots in the Championship.
Carbango does quite well be it aerially in the middle, protecting that right front post being in the correct position (maybe not so good the left post) and for all his lack of turning speed has often been in a position to come from the centrehalf position to ensure the lack of progress by the wingers, he is capable of playing some nice through ball with the correct weight on them more so if the ball is being around by us at a high tempo and this season seemed a bit more nimble on his feet able to get the ball out from under his feet quicker
but
Lately any confidence he did have seemed to has evaporated, looks as if he is questioning his descions now.
But
In his defence that critism can be levelled at any number of players after the last few games, that confidence needs to be regained by a couple of good results. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day Thread
at 08:58 24 Dec 2024
You don't need creativity to throw the ball into the opposition's box, you have already gained an advantage of being in control of the ball in the opposition third. Instead we give that advantage away by keeping possession and ending back with the keeper which was the original position you trying to gain an advantage from.
You can help creativity by getting the ball quickly in the box or down the channels with balls you can run onto or then having the support of players with good movement off the ball.
Key's goal last year was a n example Lowe getting a well chosen clearance into space down the line, Lowe looked to be heading into a avenue that was being closed off but with Key's support, one pass along the ground to the oncoming player, who with one touch beat the static defender and another to score.
It doesn't always need five or six touches of a ball to be creative, if someone is taking that many they usually get closed down, often it is the winning of the ball in tight places, quick passes to get out of those tight place to players who offer themselves in space with good movement.
I think that freedom to act quickly is being stifled, one by the opposition as would be expected of the, two by playing too deep, three our set up is wrong and four the fear of losing possession.
That fear is killing any creativity. [Post edited 24 Dec 9:16]
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Reply | Luke Cundle
at 00:36 24 Dec 2024
Thought he worked quite well with Cooper they were able to win a good amount of possession with their work rate and offered movement further up the pitch, weren't afraid of running with the ball into the box which created pressure on defenders and opened up space for the likes of Piroe, Neither Cooper or Cundle were natural finishers but they caused problems, it does seem as if we think we can pass the ball around the edge of the box without trying to take opposition defenders on, might why a number of us myself wanted see Key further up the pitch trying to do it rather than deep in our half.
Would Cundle be a better long term option compared to Fulton or even Allen? |
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Reply | The folly of selecting Grimes
at 18:21 23 Dec 2024
Expected to be more defensive away from home but five at the gives away too much in the middle of the park, a simple four at the back four would allow at least 2 midfielders the middle, wingers should tuck in, Cullen didn't drop back into a good defensive shape, he hasn't quite grasped his defensive role needed as the home team pushes on, can't remember if it was the first or second goal but we got the marking wrong on the edge of the box.
Tuck the wingers in so they can feed off our centreforward not leaving him totally isolated. [Post edited 23 Dec 18:31]
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