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We need a new centre forward who can score goals because I really can't see where the goals are gonna come from. Obviously there is question marks hanging over what is going to happen with Remy who would be the best striker in the championship if he stays but if he does depart us we are left with AJ who might pop up with a few IF he can stay fit and Bobby Zamora is useless full stop. We have missed out on Hooper which would have been a brilliant signing. Charlie Austin has scored goals galore wherever he has been and he is a proven goal scorer in the championship. He would be a good coup in my opinion. Thoughts?
£4m is a lot even before you consider the injury time bomb. Scoring heavily in the Championship is admittedly not to be sniffed at but I just don't really feel Austin has another level to his game - more of a quick fix than an investment. I suppose if he got us promoted the financial reward would far outweigh these concerns though.
Honestly I'd be more comfortable spending twice as much on Rhodes, who looks like he will score at any level.
Austin has done it consistently, so 4 mill would be a snip if he helps us into the prem. even if hes no good in the prem they'll be a number of champ teams that would take him on no doubt.
Would like Rhodes as well, but as you say hed prob cost double
10:12am Friday 26th July 2013 in Sport Photograph of the Author By Suzanne Geldard, Burnley FC reporter
QPR have not tabled a bid for Burnley striker Charlie Austin, contrary to reports.
A London-based website yesterday published a story declaring the newly relegated club had made an offer for the 28-goal marksman after missing out on Celtic striker Gary Hooper.
But this is not the case at present.
QPR have been among a list of Austin’s admirers for some time but manager Harry Redknapp is yet to make a move for the former Swindon Town striker, who has 45 goals from 90 games for the Clarets.
That ratio made him a top target for Hull City this summer, but a proposed £4.5million move collapsed earlier this month after he failed a medical.
Nottingham Forest are also monitoring the situation but have yet to lodge a bid.
Austin, 24, has since return to the Clarets fold and started the last three friendlies, the first at the end of their pre-season training camp in Cork.
"My opinion is that it’s not a matter of Dyche trying to be negative or playing boring football, it’s more a matter of Austin not fitting his formation. Austin is actually a rare type of player in the modern game. He is Wenger’s ‘fox in the box’. Technically he’s awesome in and around the edge of the area, but he offers very little as a striker other than that. It’s not that he has no skills other than scoring, but his hold up play (whether with his back to goal or running the channels), his ‘football intelligence’ (for want of a better term), and all round technical ability are at best average. You have to have more to your game to be an effective lone striker in this day and age. In my view it was often this that led to us having problems in the second half of the season as Austin was isolated and cut a forlorn figure. When he was receiving the ball it wasn’t his natural game and the frustration was all there for all to see as he dropped deeper effectively leaving us with no forward at times.
It’s a big conundrum for Dyche. Change the style of play back to 4-4-2 and you’d suit Austin’s game better and please many fans, but there’s many in the know that would suggest that 4-4-2 is becoming an out-dated system (at least for the time being)."
£4m is a lot even before you consider the injury time bomb. Scoring heavily in the Championship is admittedly not to be sniffed at but I just don't really feel Austin has another level to his game - more of a quick fix than an investment. I suppose if he got us promoted the financial reward would far outweigh these concerns though.
Honestly I'd be more comfortable spending twice as much on Rhodes, who looks like he will score at any level.
I think you have a very valid argument there but I have to disagree with you on that one. I wouldn't feel comfortable paying £8 million plus for Jordan Rhodes. Personally, I don't rate him and I feel he is a bit of a lightweight and doesn't have much dimension to his game (which you could argue about Austin). However, he can score goals and thats what we need but for 8 million I don't think we should commit that sort of money into a player like Rhodes, not my cup of tea. I do feel Austin can do just as much as Rhodes and I feel he is more of a threat and for less than half the money I think he would be the perfect coup despite his injury worries.
I think you have a very valid argument there but I have to disagree with you on that one. I wouldn't feel comfortable paying £8 million plus for Jordan Rhodes. Personally, I don't rate him and I feel he is a bit of a lightweight and doesn't have much dimension to his game (which you could argue about Austin). However, he can score goals and thats what we need but for 8 million I don't think we should commit that sort of money into a player like Rhodes, not my cup of tea. I do feel Austin can do just as much as Rhodes and I feel he is more of a threat and for less than half the money I think he would be the perfect coup despite his injury worries.
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Not sure why everyone thinks Connor Wickham would be such a terrible alternative. There's a bloody good player in there somewhere - just needs game time and service.
Not sure why everyone thinks Connor Wickham would be such a terrible alternative. There's a bloody good player in there somewhere - just needs game time and service.
Not sure we have time to search for him though. Problem is we've gone from Gary Hooper to Wickham and although Hooper wasn't guaranteed to score us a hat full, no signing is, he's got a better pedigree than CW. But if he comes we have to back him and you never know you could be right and he finally emerges
Not sure we have time to search for him though. Problem is we've gone from Gary Hooper to Wickham and although Hooper wasn't guaranteed to score us a hat full, no signing is, he's got a better pedigree than CW. But if he comes we have to back him and you never know you could be right and he finally emerges
Not more than 2 years ago Wickham was unplayable in the Championship for Ipswich. A big, overbearing presence on defenses who was both fast and a good finisher. Very young as well. Sunderland didn't turn out to be a good move for him and hasn't had much game time.
Wickham and Austin are very, very different players, if HR rates them then I wouldn't be surprised to see us get both. I would be happy to take Wickham on a season long loan as a fourth striker- no commitment to keep, and time enough to rediscover his form. Potentially he offers us something we don't have and which is hard to find , a powerful and above all mobile target man.
Oh god no. We don't want Conner Wickham. He is a right donkey. I wouldn't say he was 'banging' in the goals at Ipswich. He had a decent season but I wouldn't say he was prolific. He would not be as consistent as Austin and would score much less goals. Austin would be the better buy far. CW has done nothing at Sunderland and has been off the boil for a while and he has actually been given a decent number of games at Sunderland.
Oh god no. We don't want Conner Wickham. He is a right donkey. I wouldn't say he was 'banging' in the goals at Ipswich. He had a decent season but I wouldn't say he was prolific. He would not be as consistent as Austin and would score much less goals. Austin would be the better buy far. CW has done nothing at Sunderland and has been off the boil for a while and he has actually been given a decent number of games at Sunderland.
An on-form player of Wickham's type would create goals for the whole team though (and probably put a shift in defensively too). Poachers are valuable but we'd do well to avoid a striker messiah complex - Rhodes and Austin's 29 and 25 goals for their clubs got them to 11th and 17th while Cardiff and Hull won automatic promotion with multiple 8 and 9 goal top scorers. It's a team game.
An on-form player of Wickham's type would create goals for the whole team though (and probably put a shift in defensively too). Poachers are valuable but we'd do well to avoid a striker messiah complex - Rhodes and Austin's 29 and 25 goals for their clubs got them to 11th and 17th while Cardiff and Hull won automatic promotion with multiple 8 and 9 goal top scorers. It's a team game.
Whos that super sub reading had last season ? he was looking to get away due to lack of game time doubt hed cost a fortune scores goals and is already settled locally
An on-form player of Wickham's type would create goals for the whole team though (and probably put a shift in defensively too). Poachers are valuable but we'd do well to avoid a striker messiah complex - Rhodes and Austin's 29 and 25 goals for their clubs got them to 11th and 17th while Cardiff and Hull won automatic promotion with multiple 8 and 9 goal top scorers. It's a team game.
Alright then, explain who else is going to score the goals then? AJ might get some probably no more than 10 tops and don't even mention Bobby Zamora full stop. We NEED a goalscorer because there is no enough players who score goals. A fully fit Austin and you can assure 20 goals or more. Austin scored goals for a team which don't have particularly creative players and he still scored 25 goals breaking all sorts of records. He was even top scorer in Europe at one point beating Messi and Ronaldo! there is no reason why Austin can't create goals either, he is a big Ariel threat. Take a look at this video:
An on-form player of Wickham's type would create goals for the whole team though (and probably put a shift in defensively too). Poachers are valuable but we'd do well to avoid a striker messiah complex - Rhodes and Austin's 29 and 25 goals for their clubs got them to 11th and 17th while Cardiff and Hull won automatic promotion with multiple 8 and 9 goal top scorers. It's a team game.
Thank goodness we have goals throughout our team then, with the likes of Jenas, Derry, Henry, SWP and M'bia. It's going to be goal crazy this season!
An on-form player of Wickham's type would create goals for the whole team though (and probably put a shift in defensively too). Poachers are valuable but we'd do well to avoid a striker messiah complex - Rhodes and Austin's 29 and 25 goals for their clubs got them to 11th and 17th while Cardiff and Hull won automatic promotion with multiple 8 and 9 goal top scorers. It's a team game.
I think a lot of people are making sense here. Go back to our promotion year - Adel 19, Heidar 13, Mackie 9 and Smithy 6 was the basis of our scoring. Without Taarabt we would have been sunk. It would be interesting to see an analysis of the goal scoring in the teams that promote each year from the Championship. So, a proven scorer has been shown in the past for the 'Rs to be vital for a push towards promotion. While Wickham has the defensive edge that Adel did not, I think we can cover that part of the game well enough. Adel could both set up goals and score them in this league. Adel was shown wanting in the Premiership, but in the Championship it is quite different. Gee, i hope he does play for us.
I think a lot of people are making sense here. Go back to our promotion year - Adel 19, Heidar 13, Mackie 9 and Smithy 6 was the basis of our scoring. Without Taarabt we would have been sunk. It would be interesting to see an analysis of the goal scoring in the teams that promote each year from the Championship. So, a proven scorer has been shown in the past for the 'Rs to be vital for a push towards promotion. While Wickham has the defensive edge that Adel did not, I think we can cover that part of the game well enough. Adel could both set up goals and score them in this league. Adel was shown wanting in the Premiership, but in the Championship it is quite different. Gee, i hope he does play for us.
Austin is about to sign for Nottingham Forest if you believe twitter, which has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I'd rather Wickham for some reason. Have a feeling Austin would get injured a lot, based on nothing but instinct.
Austin is about to sign for Nottingham Forest if you believe twitter, which has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I'd rather Wickham for some reason. Have a feeling Austin would get injured a lot, based on nothing but instinct.
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Ok fair enough man. I personally think Wickham would be a horrible loan/signing. If Austin joins Forest then its another striker missed out on gone to a rival championship side.
Ok fair enough man. I personally think Wickham would be a horrible loan/signing. If Austin joins Forest then its another striker missed out on gone to a rival championship side.
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Wickham will just be another Tamas Priskin, just a big useless lump who had a lot of potential at the start of his career.
Bid from qpr rejected. He's stalling on Forest and appears to be waiting for a Prem offer.
Onto Plan C.
What source? there's loads going round. Who would be plan C because there isn't any other strikers that I would like to be honest atm. As much as I like Crouch I wouldn't want him atm I am sorry but he is past it.
What source? there's loads going round. Who would be plan C because there isn't any other strikers that I would like to be honest atm. As much as I like Crouch I wouldn't want him atm I am sorry but he is past it.
We could go lower league?
Ebanks-Blake is returning from an injury but is free and with a proven record.
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