| European security 12:49 - Feb 15 with 1209 views | SullutaCreturned |
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq0x30kkldo Sorry but you'll need to copy and paste.
I agree that the UK needs to do more but not by itself. With Trump now POTUS again and the noises he's already made, taken with JD Vance's speech, the whole of Europe needs to rethink.
Do we need NATO still or are we better off with our own, European version. Dowe do away with NATO and have an EDASO...European defence and security organisation.
Is it time to finally accept there is no special relationship with the USA, they treat us as useful fools and drag us into illegal wars and who knows what other dodgy actions. Isn't it time that Europe stood on its own 2 feet?
People know I am not a fan of the EU but if we had a European defence agency and the EU became what I think is all it should be, a trading organisation then it'd be happy days for me.
The USA is also saying the Ukraine won't be joining NATO, another reason to do away with it. We cannot let the USA dictate to us anymore.
The EU needs to reform and dithc the politcal shenanigans and we need a European defence agency. |  | | |  |
| European security on 19:41 - Feb 19 with 240 views | SullutaCreturned |
| European security on 15:32 - Feb 16 by AnotherJohn |
Well, that is a question I don't know the answer to. The anti-globalists will mutter about elites or Western liberal establishments, but it is probably also the case that relational networks form within legal circles that promote particular interpretations or approaches. |
Such as....
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgp47mpxgno
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| European security on 11:57 - Feb 20 with 171 views | AnotherJohn |
Worries about European security have been ratcheted up several notches in the last day or two. I can't help thinking that Trump and Vance have needlessly alienated a large number of European conservatives who would have otherwise taken onboard the need for higher defence spending. The untruths about who started the Ukraine war and Zelensky being a dictator are such a blatant perversion of reality that only a very few (even counting this forum) believe. The Daily Star is hardly a left-wing paper, seeming to me more interested in froth than politics under the Reach Group, but it published a scathing cartoon of Trump as Putin's poodle today.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-poodle-loses-manbaby-donald-3
Scroll down to see the cartoon that appeared on the front page. | | | |
| European security on 12:04 - Feb 20 with 168 views | Boundy |
| European security on 11:57 - Feb 20 by AnotherJohn |
Worries about European security have been ratcheted up several notches in the last day or two. I can't help thinking that Trump and Vance have needlessly alienated a large number of European conservatives who would have otherwise taken onboard the need for higher defence spending. The untruths about who started the Ukraine war and Zelensky being a dictator are such a blatant perversion of reality that only a very few (even counting this forum) believe. The Daily Star is hardly a left-wing paper, seeming to me more interested in froth than politics under the Reach Group, but it published a scathing cartoon of Trump as Putin's poodle today.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-poodle-loses-manbaby-donald-3
Scroll down to see the cartoon that appeared on the front page. |
Hope Trump doesn't see the cartoon other wise that's USA 1 - UK 0 | |
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| European security on 12:41 - Feb 20 with 140 views | Gwyn737 |
| European security on 11:57 - Feb 20 by AnotherJohn |
Worries about European security have been ratcheted up several notches in the last day or two. I can't help thinking that Trump and Vance have needlessly alienated a large number of European conservatives who would have otherwise taken onboard the need for higher defence spending. The untruths about who started the Ukraine war and Zelensky being a dictator are such a blatant perversion of reality that only a very few (even counting this forum) believe. The Daily Star is hardly a left-wing paper, seeming to me more interested in froth than politics under the Reach Group, but it published a scathing cartoon of Trump as Putin's poodle today.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-poodle-loses-manbaby-donald-3
Scroll down to see the cartoon that appeared on the front page. |
It does feel like a pick your side moment.
Difference is Trump and Putin are now clearly the same side.
Not much of a surprise to many as both govern in ways that appeal to some: autocratic, insular, incendiary, divisive etc.
None of this matters as it’s seen as a means to a desired end. | | | |
| European security on 18:50 - Feb 20 with 87 views | SullutaCreturned |
| European security on 12:41 - Feb 20 by Gwyn737 |
It does feel like a pick your side moment.
Difference is Trump and Putin are now clearly the same side.
Not much of a surprise to many as both govern in ways that appeal to some: autocratic, insular, incendiary, divisive etc.
None of this matters as it’s seen as a means to a desired end. |
I have picked a side, not the EU but Europe, yes. We need to stand together and forget about the USA.
With the right amount of budget and the will to make it happen, Europe can become a major world power unto itself.
I knew Trump would be trouble but I didn't think he'd go so far as to describe a demcratically elected leader as a dictator AND side with the ruler who IS a dictator. If this is what the Americans really want, if they back Trump on this then it's time for the Americans to be turfed out of NATO and for Europe to have it's own structured defence system. Europe has to do what I've been saying the UK needs to do which is become as self sufficient as possible.
I have met (in person) quite a few Americans I liked, on the internet I've met a few goons too though. I struggle to believe the majority of Americans are happy with this pro Russia stance from their POTUS but it is what it is and it's time for Europe to stand together and alone, apart from the USA for the first time in 80 years. | | | |
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