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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years 06:16 - Jan 24 with 5605 viewsWhiterockin

Just putting this out there, make of it what you will.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62enyvv75eo
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:38 - Jan 27 with 865 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:46 - Jan 26 by raynor94

I've had a very good life under the English crown, it seems you haven't.

You come across as a covetous individual, who for some reason is very bitter with their life


I don't think the English crown has had a massive effect on my life but the Senedd....5 years and 3 months for a hip operation...
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:46 - Jan 27 with 812 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:10 - Jan 26 by union_jack

And it must be tiring being weighed down by the chips on your shoulders that you demonstrate every time you enter into this debate!

You talk about preserving the language. That’s great but to what end. So few people use it on a daily basis. More may ‘speak’ it depending upon the definition, even I know the odd word or two as all people living here will, but using it to communicate is very small percentage-wise. Yet the expense in a time where every penny is needed in essential services is disproportionate.


At least i am not a middle aged man still living his life on his knees, eh ?



This might inform you if you were able to open your mind to anything that is not exactly the same as today - good or bad. I know you struggle with this.

Your position on the welsh language is like saying there is no point in the NHS making people better if they are not going to go back to work and pay taxes to fund the NHS.
No - some things are just the right thing to do.

Its the right thing to do to invest in and protect this ancient beautiful language.
Unless you are a moron, of course …. There is that ?

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:48 - Jan 27 with 806 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:50 - Jan 26 by Whiterockin

I would say none of the list are detrimental to encouraging businesses to locate to Wales. The continual red tape attached to the Welsh language is.


Where is your proof ?
Thank you.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:57 - Jan 27 with 790 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:23 - Jan 26 by Whiterockin

Only what has been discussed at various breakfast networking meetings. With various delegates stating their feelings and opinions. Companies present are often large, small and government bodies.


Hearsay is not evidence. Fake news.

I tell you what would help Wales attract businesses though, cheaper water in Wales.
Brewery and water intensive businesses want cheap water.
And it rains lots here - right ?

Well … water in wales is more expensive than areas in England.
English water companies take welsh water without paying the fair market rate.
Try that with the oil from the Arab lands.
In any normal market both domestic and industry water costs would be lowest in Wales and that would attract certain investments and economic activities.

I am sure your very important business breakfast mates - if they exist at all - will confirm.
Unless its a UKIP breakfast, of course.

You might want to tell them that most countries in the world prosper just fine with two languages.
Education is important.

Beware of the Risen People

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:00 - Jan 27 with 789 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:46 - Jan 26 by raynor94

I've had a very good life under the English crown, it seems you haven't.

You come across as a covetous individual, who for some reason is very bitter with their life


You come across as a bit of a Quisling.

Beware of the Risen People

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:09 - Jan 27 with 782 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:38 - Jan 27 by SullutaCreturned

I don't think the English crown has had a massive effect on my life but the Senedd....5 years and 3 months for a hip operation...


His Maj Govt delivered a Brexit disaster mind ….

And google ‘Crown Estate in Wales’ ….. maybe change is needed ? Just like Scotland.
The welsh local authorities want the Crown Estate devolved for very good reason.



Do you support the people of wales ?

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:34 - Jan 27 with 764 viewsraynor94

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:46 - Jan 27 by Kilkennyjack

At least i am not a middle aged man still living his life on his knees, eh ?



This might inform you if you were able to open your mind to anything that is not exactly the same as today - good or bad. I know you struggle with this.

Your position on the welsh language is like saying there is no point in the NHS making people better if they are not going to go back to work and pay taxes to fund the NHS.
No - some things are just the right thing to do.

Its the right thing to do to invest in and protect this ancient beautiful language.
Unless you are a moron, of course …. There is that ?


So what as a middle aged man are you doing?

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:08 - Jan 27 with 748 viewsWhiterockin

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:57 - Jan 27 by Kilkennyjack

Hearsay is not evidence. Fake news.

I tell you what would help Wales attract businesses though, cheaper water in Wales.
Brewery and water intensive businesses want cheap water.
And it rains lots here - right ?

Well … water in wales is more expensive than areas in England.
English water companies take welsh water without paying the fair market rate.
Try that with the oil from the Arab lands.
In any normal market both domestic and industry water costs would be lowest in Wales and that would attract certain investments and economic activities.

I am sure your very important business breakfast mates - if they exist at all - will confirm.
Unless its a UKIP breakfast, of course.

You might want to tell them that most countries in the world prosper just fine with two languages.
Education is important.


With a mindset like yours no wonder Wales is failing.

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Including the project to develop the Welsh language.
[Post edited 27 Jan 22:09]
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 09:17 - Jan 28 with 667 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:08 - Jan 27 by Whiterockin

With a mindset like yours no wonder Wales is failing.

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Including the project to develop the Welsh language.
[Post edited 27 Jan 22:09]


I was a welsh Nat until I was 16 but grew up .
It wasn’t easy

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 11:47 - Jan 28 with 633 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:09 - Jan 27 by Kilkennyjack

His Maj Govt delivered a Brexit disaster mind ….

And google ‘Crown Estate in Wales’ ….. maybe change is needed ? Just like Scotland.
The welsh local authorities want the Crown Estate devolved for very good reason.



Do you support the people of wales ?


Yes do you? 80% of Welsh people want to remain part of the democratic UK.

The majority of Wales, and a larger majority than the tiny majority that voted for the disaster that is devolution, voted the leave the undemocratic EU.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:18 - Jan 28 with 592 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:37 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack

No - some do but many dont.

Its a relic from the war generation.
Brexit was their last hurrah.

I am pleased to say the young are far more confidently welsh.

You should try it, it must hurt living life on your knees to the English crown….


Without that war generation you’d be on your knees to the Third Reich, not the British crown. Show some damn respect.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:33 - Jan 28 with 567 viewsmax936

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:38 - Jan 27 by SullutaCreturned

I don't think the English crown has had a massive effect on my life but the Senedd....5 years and 3 months for a hip operation...


Need both my knees done, moreso my right knee, been told its a 7yr wait on NHS or upto 12k privately.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:14 - Jan 28 with 547 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:33 - Jan 28 by max936

Need both my knees done, moreso my right knee, been told its a 7yr wait on NHS or upto 12k privately.


Would you like a loan?
Mates rate!

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:04 - Jan 28 with 520 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:33 - Jan 28 by max936

Need both my knees done, moreso my right knee, been told its a 7yr wait on NHS or upto 12k privately.


Who told you 7 years?
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:07 - Jan 28 with 514 viewslifelong

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 09:17 - Jan 28 by onehunglow

I was a welsh Nat until I was 16 but grew up .
It wasn’t easy


Other opinions are available.👍
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:08 - Jan 28 with 505 viewsraynor94

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:33 - Jan 28 by max936

Need both my knees done, moreso my right knee, been told its a 7yr wait on NHS or upto 12k privately.


You haven't been kneeling to long to the English Crown Max😉

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:34 - Jan 28 with 482 viewslifelong

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:33 - Jan 28 by max936

Need both my knees done, moreso my right knee, been told its a 7yr wait on NHS or upto 12k privately.


Was talking to somebody I played football with many years ago, he needed both his knees done and had the first one done a year ago, not trying to put you off but he has been in agony with it since. So much so that he has cancelled having the second one done
My left one is not too clever but I think having it replaced will be the last straw.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:00 - Jan 28 with 430 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 09:17 - Jan 28 by onehunglow

I was a welsh Nat until I was 16 but grew up .
It wasn’t easy


Now you are a Brit Nat.

We all have our crosses to bear. 🇬🇧

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:03 - Jan 28 with 422 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 11:47 - Jan 28 by felixstowe_jack

Yes do you? 80% of Welsh people want to remain part of the democratic UK.

The majority of Wales, and a larger majority than the tiny majority that voted for the disaster that is devolution, voted the leave the undemocratic EU.


Wanting Indy Wales is not the same as wanting the Crown Estate devolved to Wales, just like Scotland.

Happy to help.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:12 - Jan 28 with 409 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:18 - Jan 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Without that war generation you’d be on your knees to the Third Reich, not the British crown. Show some damn respect.


Its a fact that older voters in 2016 voted heavily for Brexit.
God only knows why.

But its left the younger people with a dumbass situation that they actually voted against.

If after reading those facts the first thought you think of is the Third Reich then you probably need to seek an urgent medical assessment. Its just not normal. I wish you well.

Almost every poster on here will have family who fought in both wars and i am sure they respect such sacrifices. I have no idea who the feck you think you are lecturing other posters on respect when you know nothing at all about them or their families.

Good luck at the doctors.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:53 - Jan 28 with 373 viewsraynor94

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:12 - Jan 28 by Kilkennyjack

Its a fact that older voters in 2016 voted heavily for Brexit.
God only knows why.

But its left the younger people with a dumbass situation that they actually voted against.

If after reading those facts the first thought you think of is the Third Reich then you probably need to seek an urgent medical assessment. Its just not normal. I wish you well.

Almost every poster on here will have family who fought in both wars and i am sure they respect such sacrifices. I have no idea who the feck you think you are lecturing other posters on respect when you know nothing at all about them or their families.

Good luck at the doctors.


How aren't you banned off here, never takes long for you to show your real colours

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:36 - Jan 28 with 358 viewsunion_jack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:53 - Jan 28 by raynor94

How aren't you banned off here, never takes long for you to show your real colours


He’s a cornered wounded using insults as a form of argument. He's probably sitting by his keyboard thinking to himself ‘that told them, they can’t argue back, I’ve won” whereas everyone just laughs at the sheer stupidity.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:59 - Jan 28 with 346 viewsonehunglow

More passion, more invective , more abuse chucked around when Welsh is the topic
And this in a low wage, depressed economy that is Wales
Yet worrying about what forking language somebody HAS to learn seems paramount
The state of it all

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:20 - Jan 29 with 242 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:57 - Jan 27 by Kilkennyjack

Hearsay is not evidence. Fake news.

I tell you what would help Wales attract businesses though, cheaper water in Wales.
Brewery and water intensive businesses want cheap water.
And it rains lots here - right ?

Well … water in wales is more expensive than areas in England.
English water companies take welsh water without paying the fair market rate.
Try that with the oil from the Arab lands.
In any normal market both domestic and industry water costs would be lowest in Wales and that would attract certain investments and economic activities.

I am sure your very important business breakfast mates - if they exist at all - will confirm.
Unless its a UKIP breakfast, of course.

You might want to tell them that most countries in the world prosper just fine with two languages.
Education is important.


Who sells the licenses that Severn Trent and United utilities use to take water from Wales?

As you hadn't noticed, Pubs are closing left right and centre.

Who sets water prices in Wales...Dwr Cymru...anyone else? So wy are our prices so high then if a Welsh company controls them?

Education is important, why didn't you get any...or any common sense? What other countries manage with is irrelevant to Wales NEEDS.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:55 - Jan 29 with 213 viewsBoundy

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