| Millwall fans 21:34 - Aug 7 with 92053 views | Hayesender |
What a bunch of absolute cnts. Attacked my 11 year old stepson by nandos after the game, and my 16 year old stepson has ended up being arrested for kicking one of the cnts in the head to get him off his brother.
I was then arrested for defending myself against two of the cnts, and then de-arrested when it became clear I was only defending myself.
Sat at home now with grazed nuckles and want feels like a cracked rib.
Why, just why do we let these arseholes out at the same time to cause fcking havoc?
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| Millwall fans on 08:57 - Aug 8 with 6087 views | enfieldargh |
| Millwall fans on 08:11 - Aug 8 by ozranger |
There is all this talk about keeping them in for 20mins or longer. I just cannot see how you can do that at KPFS. Is there somewhere behind the stand you can keep them? I rather doubt it. If you held them in the stands they would invade the pitch, irrelevant of the number of security and police there. Yes, some would be arrested but the damage to the pitch, the goals, the stands and their seats would be horrendous. I really do not think this is an option at our ground. |
There was a barricade formed by police vans at the gap into the White City Estate, all they need do is form another one just before the end of SAR and keep them there. Shepherding 2.5K from there to Bush Market Station you would need a Battalion to keep them in check
The players cars parked in the school may get pelted though
They are scum and should be treated as such.
Hope you lads can get over this |  |
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| Millwall fans on 08:59 - Aug 8 with 6079 views | Mistication92 |
| Millwall fans on 07:36 - Aug 8 by Hoopstar |
Is there a precedent for just outright banning supporters from certain teams like Millwall a la European bans?
Surely the 2,500 ticket sales aren't worth the hassle for the club - and the effect all the horrific incidents like these have on supporters? It's every time that lot are let loose and it's never going to get better so can't we just ban them and take being banned in return or something similar? Lord knows I have no intention of ever returning to their ground - similar to a lot of Rs fans I know.
Sorry to hear your experience mate - hope it works out! |
Seems a decent idea TBH. Everyone says Millwall away is awful, would anyone miss it? Especially if missing it meant not having to worry about stuff like this and the additional policing for the home game.
Why should 15,000 have to have a worse experience for the sake of 2,500? Would any clubs in the league actually want the Millwall fans if they had the choice? They seem more hassle than the £60k ticket sales they bring in. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:01 - Aug 8 with 6066 views | ozexile |
So sorry to hear I hope your son is ok.
Imagine going out for a family day at the football and fearing for your sons life.
Lock them up and throw away the key absolute scum. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:05 - Aug 8 with 6029 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Sorry to hear this happened to you and your family Hayes.
11 arrests yesterday. No breakdown of which clubs though. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:06 - Aug 8 with 6025 views | essextaxiboy |
| Millwall fans on 08:00 - Aug 8 by Juzzie |
Difficult one as you probably couldn’t do general sale tickets and can only sell to anyone on the database with no new registrations a month or two prior to the game.
All they’ll do is register with as many as clubs as possible for the following seasons and there could be pockets of trouble all over the place.
I think it’s best to keep them in one place but keep them in for 20 mins after the game like they do to away fans at the Den. Oh yes, the hypocritical cnts will moan and give it the OTT drama bollox. |
just ban them outright from our ground with no ticket sales to anyone who wasnt on the database at 3pm Saturday . Make it public fully accepting that they will do the same to us and welcoming it as "protecting out own supporters including children " against assault.
Hope the boys are ok and feel ok to go back and support the club . |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:35 - Aug 8 with 5906 views | Blue_Castello |
| Millwall fans on 07:36 - Aug 8 by Hoopstar |
Is there a precedent for just outright banning supporters from certain teams like Millwall a la European bans?
Surely the 2,500 ticket sales aren't worth the hassle for the club - and the effect all the horrific incidents like these have on supporters? It's every time that lot are let loose and it's never going to get better so can't we just ban them and take being banned in return or something similar? Lord knows I have no intention of ever returning to their ground - similar to a lot of Rs fans I know.
Sorry to hear your experience mate - hope it works out! |
Unfortunately the chances of banning them completely are minimal to say the least so what we have to do is only ever give them the least amount of tickets available,which in the case of Loftus Road / Kiyan Prince its the top tier only.
The decision to give them the extra 650 tickets was made by people who don't have to suffer their intimidation and violence, it probably would not have stopped yesterdays violence but it would have reduced the potential. The club probably earned an extra 20k for the privilege of increasing the potential danger to its own fans, for pitys sake can we not learn from these mistakes, any chance somebody can forward a link to this thread to Lee Hoos, maybe he can walk with the Rangers fans to the Uxbridge Road next time they visit.
Really sorry to hear about yesterday Hayes, it should have been a celebration of fans returning and your day was ruined by a bunch of morons. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:55 - Aug 8 with 5793 views | Mistication92 |
If we said we wanted to not allocate them tickets, cited the evidence of previous games. I'm sure the Police would rather not have to deal with this every year, they might even agree.
Make Millwall home games ST and Members only. No general or database sales. Accept they'd not give us tickets to their place. It would be an agreement of sorts. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 10:42 - Aug 8 with 5600 views | ozexile |
| Millwall fans on 09:55 - Aug 8 by Mistication92 |
If we said we wanted to not allocate them tickets, cited the evidence of previous games. I'm sure the Police would rather not have to deal with this every year, they might even agree.
Make Millwall home games ST and Members only. No general or database sales. Accept they'd not give us tickets to their place. It would be an agreement of sorts. |
Agree with this, we don't want them or need them. The only problem is they'd congregate outside the ground. | | | |
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| Millwall fans on 10:43 - Aug 8 with 5601 views | Snipper |
Sorry to hear about your boys being attacked Dave. It’s a bloody joke that we have to put up with this shìt every season. The poster who said to make it season ticket and members only for this fixture has it right.
They shouldn’t have been given the whole end yesterday. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 10:47 - Aug 8 with 5575 views | Rangersw12 |
| Millwall fans on 09:05 - Aug 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Sorry to hear this happened to you and your family Hayes.
11 arrests yesterday. No breakdown of which clubs though. |
Where have you seen the arrest figures ?
Police operation was a joke yesterday , as the home club we should not have to walk round the houses to get into the ground
The Police should do their job and police the Millwall fans properly or if they cant handle it reduce their allocation. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 10:52 - Aug 8 with 5531 views | Hayesender |
The 16 year old was released last night, but his legs are black and blue due to the police batons.
The police need to be held accountable for this assault.
I'm taking the pair of em to Orient on Wednesday. I hope this doesn't put them off | |
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| Millwall fans on 10:54 - Aug 8 with 5505 views | distortR |
| Millwall fans on 10:52 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
The 16 year old was released last night, but his legs are black and blue due to the police batons.
The police need to be held accountable for this assault.
I'm taking the pair of em to Orient on Wednesday. I hope this doesn't put them off |
ffs.
Good on you Hayesender, and good on the kids as well. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:12 - Aug 8 with 5377 views | HamptonR |
Keep them in at the end, a line of police at the front of the stand to prevent a pitch invasion.
Then 20 minutes later escort them down the Uxbridge road, with a few more police than the two or three every 200 yards or so, that were there yesterday. They act like animals, treat them as such.
Millwall fans, will they ever grow up.
There were men same age or older than me goading young lads that were walking past.
If I came home on a Saturday bragging about how I ran the other supporters, verbally abused a teenager and gave a 11 year old a kicking. I would not be getting any dinner or any rumpy pumpy. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:32 - Aug 8 with 5275 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 10:52 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
The 16 year old was released last night, but his legs are black and blue due to the police batons.
The police need to be held accountable for this assault.
I'm taking the pair of em to Orient on Wednesday. I hope this doesn't put them off |
Has he been charged, Hayesender? |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:37 - Aug 8 with 5251 views | Juzzie |
Give them the top tier only, saves any pitch encroachment issues. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:45 - Aug 8 with 5197 views | Hayesender |
| Millwall fans on 11:32 - Aug 8 by Fenwick_115 |
Has he been charged, Hayesender? |
No, no evidence. They've left it pending but the duty solicitor said if there was evidence they'd have charged him.
Also while I'm at it, a massive thank you to the staff at the kebab restaurant just along from nandos. They took the younger one inside and sat him down and looked after him while the chaos went on outside. The better side of humanity right there | |
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| Millwall fans on 11:47 - Aug 8 with 5193 views | davman |
| Millwall fans on 11:37 - Aug 8 by Juzzie |
Give them the top tier only, saves any pitch encroachment issues. |
Wouldn't want to sit underneath them. Bottom tier only I'd have thought... |  |
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| Millwall fans on 11:48 - Aug 8 with 5184 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 11:37 - Aug 8 by Juzzie |
Give them the top tier only, saves any pitch encroachment issues. |
They were incredibly well behaved in the ground yesterday and even after scoring what was clearly a very passionately celebrated goal only one person came over the hoardings: he was allowed to go back into the stands with no attempt to throw him out which seemed the right way to deal with the situation.
What happened to Hayesender's sons is disgraceful and I hope the Police see common sense and don't charge his eldest or - at worse - only give a caution but we would be wrong to not acknowledge how well behaved 99.9% of their fans were yesterday and how that was a vast improvement on the last few visits to Loftus Road and incomparable to the last time they had both tiers in 2010. [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 11:51]
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| Millwall fans on 11:50 - Aug 8 with 5167 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 11:45 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
No, no evidence. They've left it pending but the duty solicitor said if there was evidence they'd have charged him.
Also while I'm at it, a massive thank you to the staff at the kebab restaurant just along from nandos. They took the younger one inside and sat him down and looked after him while the chaos went on outside. The better side of humanity right there |
That's great news. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:51 - Aug 8 with 5157 views | billericaydicky |
So sorry to hear that and I hope that your boys are ok and are not daunted by this (I note you're taking them to Orient). Frankly I'm shocked, but not surprised that this happened as my lads were in The Green yesterday and reported to me they saw snarling 50+ year old men walking past goading all and sundry, probably Charlied up to their eyebrows. As classy as ever.
As some have posted, if their fans are allowed in in future, then it should be the top tier only, as it is for us and they should be held in for 30 mins afterwards too to hopefully avoid these scenes.
Best wishes to you and the boys and I hope you get some sort of explanation from the Police, but I won't hold my breath. ; |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 11:53 - Aug 8 with 5147 views | Bakes |
The absolute state of this
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| Millwall fans on 11:57 - Aug 8 with 5101 views | Juzzie |
| Millwall fans on 11:47 - Aug 8 by davman |
Wouldn't want to sit underneath them. Bottom tier only I'd have thought... |
Leave it empty. It’s what they do at the Den.
Or, only sell seats (home fans) that are directly under the upper tier, none of the front rows that are exposed.
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| Millwall fans on 12:00 - Aug 8 with 5064 views | Hayesender |
| Millwall fans on 11:53 - Aug 8 by Bakes |
The absolute state of this
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How fcking embarrassing. Mums with their children having to fear for their safety from these scum | |
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| Millwall fans on 12:02 - Aug 8 with 5047 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 11:53 - Aug 8 by Bakes |
The absolute state of this
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I hate videos like this.
First of all it shows how the idiots who think they're hard for fighting at football affect the lives of ordinary people who are in the vicinity. Those families enjoying a afternoon picnic should not be exposed to such scenes and regardless of who's involved it reflects badly on us a club too because they will associate it with QPR matches.
I also hate the fact that a small scuffle between 4 people and which was dealt with swiftly and efficiently by the Police has been blown up into a 'massive trouble down QPR' and will lend itself to rumours that there was substantial trouble which also puts families off. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 12:12 - Aug 8 with 4958 views | ozexile |
| Millwall fans on 12:02 - Aug 8 by Fenwick_115 |
I hate videos like this.
First of all it shows how the idiots who think they're hard for fighting at football affect the lives of ordinary people who are in the vicinity. Those families enjoying a afternoon picnic should not be exposed to such scenes and regardless of who's involved it reflects badly on us a club too because they will associate it with QPR matches.
I also hate the fact that a small scuffle between 4 people and which was dealt with swiftly and efficiently by the Police has been blown up into a 'massive trouble down QPR' and will lend itself to rumours that there was substantial trouble which also puts families off. |
I agree, those poor kids just having a nice afternoon in the park with their families. | | | |
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