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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts 07:58 - Dec 21 with 7730 viewstony_roch975

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-21/government-signs-off-on-4-billion-takeover-o

shameful - a great British engineering company with a proud history; no respect for tradition!

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:18 - Dec 21 with 5724 viewskiwidale

Sold off? taken over? Are you saying labour would have blocked this merger.

This is not the time for bickering.

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:23 - Dec 21 with 5718 viewsDale23years

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:28 - Dec 21 with 5710 viewskiwidale

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:23 - Dec 21 by Dale23years

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There will be valid points from both sides until Brexit is mentioned the rest will be swapping insults.

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[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 8:40]

This is not the time for bickering.

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 with 5597 viewsrochdaleriddler

Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts (n/t) on 10:43 - Dec 21 with 5559 viewsD_Alien

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler

Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party


[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 10:46]

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:46 - Dec 21 with 5552 viewsD_Alien


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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:19 - Dec 21 with 5504 viewsAncoats_Blue

I read this a few years ago. Interesting read with evidence to argue that a lot of privatisation in the UK hasn’t had the desired effect of better competition, lower prices for consumers, efficiency, less tax payer subsidies etc.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20601075


But then I think a lot of us knew that...
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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:26 - Dec 21 with 5485 viewsD_Alien

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:19 - Dec 21 by Ancoats_Blue

I read this a few years ago. Interesting read with evidence to argue that a lot of privatisation in the UK hasn’t had the desired effect of better competition, lower prices for consumers, efficiency, less tax payer subsidies etc.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20601075


But then I think a lot of us knew that...


That may well be interesting, but Cobhams isn't publicly-owned

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 with 5435 viewsrochdaleriddler

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:26 - Dec 21 by D_Alien

That may well be interesting, but Cobhams isn't publicly-owned


No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:56 - Dec 21 with 5420 viewsSuddenLad

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler

No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger


Which seemingly have been addressed and are now satisfactory to all parties. All jobs have been secured and guaranteed and the HQ will remain in the UK.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:16 - Dec 21 with 5388 viewsDiddyDave

Yeah right. A few years down the track......
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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 with 5334 viewsD_Alien

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler

No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger


It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns

Keep it up, rr!

[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 12:41]

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 13:44 - Dec 21 with 5265 viewsforeverhopefulDale

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler

Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party


Well they are not patriotic. They allow foreign governments to run our trains, and allow ex military people to be homeless with mental health problems. Just two examples of their so called patriotic actions. There are many more examples, including ownership of the press.

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:00 - Dec 21 with 5237 viewsrochdaleriddler

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 by D_Alien

It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns

Keep it up, rr!

[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 12:41]


I’ll try

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:01 - Dec 21 with 5232 viewsrochdaleriddler

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:56 - Dec 21 by SuddenLad

Which seemingly have been addressed and are now satisfactory to all parties. All jobs have been secured and guaranteed and the HQ will remain in the UK.


By addressed do you mean held back until after the election?, because this was approved months ago

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:19 - Dec 21 with 5192 viewsSuddenLad

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:01 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler

By addressed do you mean held back until after the election?, because this was approved months ago


Shareholders agreed on the takeover in September, but the deal was stalled,, pending security concerns and other matters, including the composition of board members, guarantees regarding jobs in the UK, location of HQ and guarantees on future sales of the company (or parts of it).

As I read it, all these matters have been sorted to the satisfaction of all parties and the deal has been ratified.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-update-on-the-proposed-acquisition
[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:02]

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:02 - Dec 21 with 5114 viewsRochdale_ger

It’s more concerning that Bardsley construction has gone under while having multi million pound contracts due to start in Liverpool and Manchester City centre. Is this due to Brexit I wonder, you know what they say about the construction industry being the first to be hit and the last to recover. Signs of a recession?
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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:11 - Dec 21 with 5091 viewsrochdaleriddler

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:19 - Dec 21 by SuddenLad

Shareholders agreed on the takeover in September, but the deal was stalled,, pending security concerns and other matters, including the composition of board members, guarantees regarding jobs in the UK, location of HQ and guarantees on future sales of the company (or parts of it).

As I read it, all these matters have been sorted to the satisfaction of all parties and the deal has been ratified.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-update-on-the-proposed-acquisition
[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:02]


Bit like the guarantee given by Kraft when they bought Cadbury! Meaningless.
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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:20 - Dec 21 with 5060 viewstony_roch975

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:18 - Dec 21 by kiwidale

Sold off? taken over? Are you saying labour would have blocked this merger.


Yes, if it was still Corbyn's Labour Party

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:26 - Dec 21 with 5046 viewstony_roch975

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 by D_Alien

It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns

Keep it up, rr!

[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 12:41]


Isn't it - hilarious how some of us can see both sides and aren't afraid to form alliances with an opponent when we share an analysis;

is there a problem with socialists being patriotic?

At a ceremony in Churchill’s honour, held shortly before they both retired from the front rank, Attlee delivered a glowing tribute to the man he called Britain’s “daring pilot in extremity”. When a Conservative MP referred to the Labour leader as “silly old Attlee” in Churchill’s presence, he erupted with a thunderous response: “Mr Attlee… played a great part in winning the war. Mr Attlee is a great patriot.”

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:31 - Dec 21 with 5025 viewsD_Alien

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:26 - Dec 21 by tony_roch975

Isn't it - hilarious how some of us can see both sides and aren't afraid to form alliances with an opponent when we share an analysis;

is there a problem with socialists being patriotic?

At a ceremony in Churchill’s honour, held shortly before they both retired from the front rank, Attlee delivered a glowing tribute to the man he called Britain’s “daring pilot in extremity”. When a Conservative MP referred to the Labour leader as “silly old Attlee” in Churchill’s presence, he erupted with a thunderous response: “Mr Attlee… played a great part in winning the war. Mr Attlee is a great patriot.”


Give it a rest, and have a good Christmas

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:36 - Dec 21 with 5018 viewstony_roch975

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:28 - Dec 21 by kiwidale

There will be valid points from both sides until Brexit is mentioned the rest will be swapping insults.

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[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 8:40]


Hopefully valid points and definitely no insults - shame you assumed there would be. Brexit isn't the issue here; the Tories sold off the family silver when we were in the EU, they are selling it off now as we're leaving the EU, they will sell off any remaining after we've left the EU - in fact they will sell it off anytime there's a US private equity group tickling their tummy.

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:42 - Dec 21 with 4999 viewstony_roch975

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:31 - Dec 21 by D_Alien

Give it a rest, and have a good Christmas

[Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:31]


Thanks - and to you and yours

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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:35 - Dec 21 with 4943 viewsroccydaleian

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:36 - Dec 21 by tony_roch975

Hopefully valid points and definitely no insults - shame you assumed there would be. Brexit isn't the issue here; the Tories sold off the family silver when we were in the EU, they are selling it off now as we're leaving the EU, they will sell off any remaining after we've left the EU - in fact they will sell it off anytime there's a US private equity group tickling their tummy.


Is selling the family silver anything like selling the family gold? Wonder who did that last time they were in power?
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Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:44 - Dec 21 with 4916 viewsrochdaleriddler

Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:35 - Dec 21 by roccydaleian

Is selling the family silver anything like selling the family gold? Wonder who did that last time they were in power?


Was it the Whigs

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