Hilary is a jack on 13:16 - Oct 15 with 3529 views | biggar | Awful person. How anyone can actually be a supporter of hers is beyond me. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 13:31 - Oct 15 with 3500 views | swanjackal | Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer is an interesting read. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 13:32 - Oct 15 with 3511 views | Highjack |
Hilary is a jack on 13:16 - Oct 15 by biggar | Awful person. How anyone can actually be a supporter of hers is beyond me. |
People can have whatever opinions they like but the love in for Clinton this side of the Atlantic is really bizarre. Literally anyone would have won the presidential election against her. Even Donald trump. Captain beany would have got a landslide victory. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 13:41 - Oct 15 with 3504 views | exiledclaseboy |
Hilary is a jack on 13:32 - Oct 15 by Highjack | People can have whatever opinions they like but the love in for Clinton this side of the Atlantic is really bizarre. Literally anyone would have won the presidential election against her. Even Donald trump. Captain beany would have got a landslide victory. |
Yet she still got three million more votes than the other guy (not that I’m claiming his victory is illegitimate because it isn’t. But if what you say is true surely he’d have got millions more votes, not the other way round?). | |
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Hilary is a jack on 13:43 - Oct 15 with 3500 views | Kilkennyjack |
Hilary is a jack on 13:32 - Oct 15 by Highjack | People can have whatever opinions they like but the love in for Clinton this side of the Atlantic is really bizarre. Literally anyone would have won the presidential election against her. Even Donald trump. Captain beany would have got a landslide victory. |
Except of course Hilary actually got more votes than the orange moron ..... 👠In Brexit terms Hilary wins. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 14:22 - Oct 15 with 3473 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
Hilary is a jack on 13:41 - Oct 15 by exiledclaseboy | Yet she still got three million more votes than the other guy (not that I’m claiming his victory is illegitimate because it isn’t. But if what you say is true surely he’d have got millions more votes, not the other way round?). |
Due to the huge population of voters (legal and otherwise) in California, it will always be that way for the Democrats and the popular vote for the foreseeable future. Luckily, that state only has the same number of electoral college votes, no matter what the margin of victory is. For the 2016 election, Trump virtually ignored California so as not to waste his time. As a result, HRC won the state by nearly 5 million, and lost the rest of the aggregate USA by 2 million. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 14:45]
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Hilary is a jack on 14:35 - Oct 15 with 3462 views | Jack_Meoff |
Hilary is a jack on 13:31 - Oct 15 by swanjackal | Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer is an interesting read. |
Nice recommend sir. Just got it for Kindle and am about 10% in. She should never have been made Secretary of State with so much foreign money flowing into their Foundation, and I’m guessing the memorandum of understanding they signed wasn’t worth the paper on which it was written. Both Clintons are astoundingly corrupt, it makes any love in even more bizarre. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 14:37 - Oct 15 with 3459 views | Loyal |
Hilary is a jack on 13:41 - Oct 15 by exiledclaseboy | Yet she still got three million more votes than the other guy (not that I’m claiming his victory is illegitimate because it isn’t. But if what you say is true surely he’d have got millions more votes, not the other way round?). |
If we apply thatnto the uk system the BNP would have had serious representation a few years back. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 14:39 - Oct 15 with 3454 views | exiledclaseboy |
Hilary is a jack on 14:37 - Oct 15 by Loyal | If we apply thatnto the uk system the BNP would have had serious representation a few years back. |
As they should have if enough votes had been cast for them. UKIP too. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 15:34 - Oct 15 with 3413 views | exiledclaseboy |
Hilary is a jack on 14:22 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Due to the huge population of voters (legal and otherwise) in California, it will always be that way for the Democrats and the popular vote for the foreseeable future. Luckily, that state only has the same number of electoral college votes, no matter what the margin of victory is. For the 2016 election, Trump virtually ignored California so as not to waste his time. As a result, HRC won the state by nearly 5 million, and lost the rest of the aggregate USA by 2 million. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 14:45]
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All true, Tums. But votes is votes regardless of where the voter lives. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 16:27 - Oct 15 with 3382 views | nice_to_michu |
Hilary is a jack on 14:22 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Due to the huge population of voters (legal and otherwise) in California, it will always be that way for the Democrats and the popular vote for the foreseeable future. Luckily, that state only has the same number of electoral college votes, no matter what the margin of victory is. For the 2016 election, Trump virtually ignored California so as not to waste his time. As a result, HRC won the state by nearly 5 million, and lost the rest of the aggregate USA by 2 million. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 14:45]
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You understand that Trump wasn't the only person to target particular states and ignore others, right? As for your "legal and otherwise" thing, it'd be laughable if it wasn't so #sad that people think voter fraud occurred on any meaningful scale. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 16:46 - Oct 15 with 3366 views | Highjack |
Hilary is a jack on 13:41 - Oct 15 by exiledclaseboy | Yet she still got three million more votes than the other guy (not that I’m claiming his victory is illegitimate because it isn’t. But if what you say is true surely he’d have got millions more votes, not the other way round?). |
I didn't mention the number of votes, just that literally anyone would have won the election against her, even Donald trump, which is what happened. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 17:00 - Oct 15 with 3353 views | Highjack | It's also bizarre that Clinton has become such a poster girl for the left when she's probably more conservative and centre right than the likes of May has ever been. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 17:15 - Oct 15 with 3337 views | nice_to_michu |
Hilary is a jack on 17:00 - Oct 15 by Highjack | It's also bizarre that Clinton has become such a poster girl for the left when she's probably more conservative and centre right than the likes of May has ever been. |
It's not bizarre at all. Recognizing that American politics is very conservative and that change is not won overnight does not mean that she is a champion of my particular politics, but it does mean that I respect her efforts. To ebact real, long-lasting change you need to have a sympathetic Congress. The idea that House Republicans would've worked with President Bernie Sanders is ridiculous. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 17:21 - Oct 15 with 3328 views | exiledclaseboy |
Hilary is a jack on 17:15 - Oct 15 by nice_to_michu | It's not bizarre at all. Recognizing that American politics is very conservative and that change is not won overnight does not mean that she is a champion of my particular politics, but it does mean that I respect her efforts. To ebact real, long-lasting change you need to have a sympathetic Congress. The idea that House Republicans would've worked with President Bernie Sanders is ridiculous. |
House Republicans won’t even work with the republican “president” they ended up with. Although I do find the notion of Clinton as “conservative and centre right” a little odd. I accept that the US political alignments are a little strange to British eyes but I’d put Clinton firmly in the centre/centre left using UK perspectives. Many Americans were/are convinced that Obama was/is a Marxist and communist. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 17:23]
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Hilary is a jack on 17:31 - Oct 15 with 3315 views | londonlisa2001 |
Hilary is a jack on 14:22 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Due to the huge population of voters (legal and otherwise) in California, it will always be that way for the Democrats and the popular vote for the foreseeable future. Luckily, that state only has the same number of electoral college votes, no matter what the margin of victory is. For the 2016 election, Trump virtually ignored California so as not to waste his time. As a result, HRC won the state by nearly 5 million, and lost the rest of the aggregate USA by 2 million. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 14:45]
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Trump only won Texas, Oklahoma and Florida and lost the rest of the aggregate USA in electoral college votes. Yep - that sounds stupid as well. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 17:40 - Oct 15 with 3305 views | Highjack |
Hilary is a jack on 17:21 - Oct 15 by exiledclaseboy | House Republicans won’t even work with the republican “president” they ended up with. Although I do find the notion of Clinton as “conservative and centre right” a little odd. I accept that the US political alignments are a little strange to British eyes but I’d put Clinton firmly in the centre/centre left using UK perspectives. Many Americans were/are convinced that Obama was/is a Marxist and communist. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 17:23]
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She's a pro big business billionaire arch capitalist with more fingers in pies than the staff in a Pukka factory, but you're entitled to your opinion and can slot her alongside the likes of Jess Phillips if you do so wish. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 17:46 - Oct 15 with 3301 views | londonlisa2001 |
Hilary is a jack on 13:31 - Oct 15 by swanjackal | Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer is an interesting read. |
Yes. It's such a shame though that Breitbart contributor and former Sarah Palin advisor Schweizer has been caught out by the Sunday Times for fabricating and making up sources don't you think? Even he's had to admit that the book is inaccurate. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 17:53 - Oct 15 with 3292 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
Hilary is a jack on 17:31 - Oct 15 by londonlisa2001 | Trump only won Texas, Oklahoma and Florida and lost the rest of the aggregate USA in electoral college votes. Yep - that sounds stupid as well. |
Lisa, not sure why you felt the need to be a jackass about this. I wasn't making an excuse for Trump losing the popular vote; just giving what I believe is an insightful explanation why the huge popular vote desparity the Democrats can count on from California is never going to be reflected in the electoral college. Perhaps if you had heard it from someone else you'd have reacted a little more maturely. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 17:56 - Oct 15 with 3282 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
Hilary is a jack on 16:27 - Oct 15 by nice_to_michu | You understand that Trump wasn't the only person to target particular states and ignore others, right? As for your "legal and otherwise" thing, it'd be laughable if it wasn't so #sad that people think voter fraud occurred on any meaningful scale. |
Not laughable at all. I know first-hand how easy it is for a non citizen to vote. It's a serious problem, and unfortunately all the simple, rational solutions always trigger the Left. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 18:05 - Oct 15 with 3269 views | nice_to_michu |
Hilary is a jack on 17:56 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Not laughable at all. I know first-hand how easy it is for a non citizen to vote. It's a serious problem, and unfortunately all the simple, rational solutions always trigger the Left. |
Great, seems like you're really onto omething there. Shouldn't be too difficult for Trump's voter integrity commission and Republican-controlled House and Senate to get to the bottom of it then. I wonder if they'll find the culprits.... [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 18:05]
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Hilary is a jack on 18:05 - Oct 15 with 3265 views | londonlisa2001 |
Hilary is a jack on 17:53 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Lisa, not sure why you felt the need to be a jackass about this. I wasn't making an excuse for Trump losing the popular vote; just giving what I believe is an insightful explanation why the huge popular vote desparity the Democrats can count on from California is never going to be reflected in the electoral college. Perhaps if you had heard it from someone else you'd have reacted a little more maturely. |
Nope. I think it's stupid whoever says it. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in about 20 states or so - the insinuation of the 'it's just the loons of California and who knows whether they are legal or not' ignores that. I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the utter crap that she gets thrown at her is simply unbelievable. and much of it is because she's a woman. | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 18:07 - Oct 15 with 3262 views | swanjackal |
Hilary is a jack on 17:46 - Oct 15 by londonlisa2001 | Yes. It's such a shame though that Breitbart contributor and former Sarah Palin advisor Schweizer has been caught out by the Sunday Times for fabricating and making up sources don't you think? Even he's had to admit that the book is inaccurate. |
Sorry, I've only read the updated version with the incorrect information edited out. | |
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Hilary is a jack on 18:10 - Oct 15 with 3259 views | londonlisa2001 |
Hilary is a jack on 17:56 - Oct 15 by Tummer_from_Texas | Not laughable at all. I know first-hand how easy it is for a non citizen to vote. It's a serious problem, and unfortunately all the simple, rational solutions always trigger the Left. |
Particularly if they're Russian... On a serious note though, it's odd that it's only easy for illegals to vote in California. What do you do differently in Texas? | | | |
Hilary is a jack on 18:15 - Oct 15 with 3254 views | londonlisa2001 |
Hilary is a jack on 18:07 - Oct 15 by swanjackal | Sorry, I've only read the updated version with the incorrect information edited out. |
The information that was proved to be incorrect to the extent that Harper Collins had to order a rewrite you mean. The stuff that is based on conspiracy theory and dubious sources but can't be proved to be false is still in there. Doesn't it concern you they the author had to update it to get rid of proven falsehood? It doesn't say much for his commitment to the truth does it? Or to his objectivity in writing it? | | | |
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