| No subject 18:10 - Sep 16 with 23891 views | nice_to_michu |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:18 - Sep 17 with 2714 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:12 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
I present it as a fact because it is. If you think Llorente has the same lazy stigma as Bony and Scotland then you are off your rocker. Similarly if you think Jason Price was regularly encouraged by the North Bank. |
You appear to be attempting to make this personal with these thinly veiled insults. Stick to the topic without derailing it in to puerile farce. Thanks. |  |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:19 - Sep 17 with 2711 views | whoflungdung |
I'm flummoxed too.
Jdg clearly spread his semen all around Swansea . Not just Winston who pines for his utter overated insouchiance . Opinions my arse. If people didn't rate jdg Winston and his chums ritually slagged off others who didn't see his greatness on the pitch.
We re back dragging up the past .
Just why do we do it
Why?
And someone try without insults |  |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:20 - Sep 17 with 2708 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:18 - Sep 17 by ItchySphincter |
You appear to be attempting to make this personal with these thinly veiled insults. Stick to the topic without derailing it in to puerile farce. Thanks. |
Pot kettle - pardon the pun.
I believe anyone to think Llorente has the same stigma as Bony and Scotland and that Price was positively encouraged by the North Bank can only have a view based on dis-ingenuity. |  |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:21 - Sep 17 with 2697 views | Loyal |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:19 - Sep 17 by whoflungdung |
I'm flummoxed too.
Jdg clearly spread his semen all around Swansea . Not just Winston who pines for his utter overated insouchiance . Opinions my arse. If people didn't rate jdg Winston and his chums ritually slagged off others who didn't see his greatness on the pitch.
We re back dragging up the past .
Just why do we do it
Why?
And someone try without insults |
Because remembering the past is easier than understanding the present.
Nobody is ever as well off as they were, and the old days are the best.
Mindset.
Remember the days of Alfy Mawson ?
Not yet, but we will. |  |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:22 - Sep 17 with 2695 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:18 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
Yet both have the lazy stigma in bucket loads. So the fact one wasn't the other doesnt really compute. |
Wilf doesn't have a lazy stigma. A few knuckleheads saying he was lazy isn't a stigma.
If you want to make up the perception that Wilf is considered lazy by the majority the you can get your dots to join up. But he's not, so they don't. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:22 - Sep 17 with 2692 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:20 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
Pot kettle - pardon the pun.
I believe anyone to think Llorente has the same stigma as Bony and Scotland and that Price was positively encouraged by the North Bank can only have a view based on dis-ingenuity. |
Where have I attempted to insult you? | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:23 - Sep 17 with 2688 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:22 - Sep 17 by ItchySphincter |
Wilf doesn't have a lazy stigma. A few knuckleheads saying he was lazy isn't a stigma.
If you want to make up the perception that Wilf is considered lazy by the majority the you can get your dots to join up. But he's not, so they don't. |
He absolutely does, absolutely did and most certainly absolutely will.
You can pretend otherwise if it suits. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:29 - Sep 17 with 2682 views | whoflungdung |
Good post loyal but it's not to say it's the best outlook
I d rather worry about the present | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:30 - Sep 17 with 2678 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:22 - Sep 17 by ItchySphincter |
Where have I attempted to insult you? |
All our correspondance previous to this thread has been exactly as you describe. In fact, it was noted by other posters also. You seemed to get excited when I post and make it your mission to disagree, regardless of the ridiculous lengths you have to go to in order to do it. I still cant believe you think Price was positively encouraged by the North Bank... Although you probably dont actually think that at all do you? | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:34 - Sep 17 with 2669 views | whoflungdung |
Why do we turn on each other.
Is it just us?
I reckon we re worse than most
Jeez....we have many grading themselves as Class 1 fans and others as plastics or worse. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:34 - Sep 17 with 2669 views | jack247 |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:19 - Sep 17 by whoflungdung |
I'm flummoxed too.
Jdg clearly spread his semen all around Swansea . Not just Winston who pines for his utter overated insouchiance . Opinions my arse. If people didn't rate jdg Winston and his chums ritually slagged off others who didn't see his greatness on the pitch.
We re back dragging up the past .
Just why do we do it
Why?
And someone try without insults |
JdG was a very good player, who as E20 quite rightly points out, was sometimes unfairly accused of laziness, though it was far more often the cowardice and not caring sticks he got beat with.
What E20 doesn't acknowledge, is that players like Orlandi and VdG used to get the same kind of abuse. | | | |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:34 - Sep 17 with 2665 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:30 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
All our correspondance previous to this thread has been exactly as you describe. In fact, it was noted by other posters also. You seemed to get excited when I post and make it your mission to disagree, regardless of the ridiculous lengths you have to go to in order to do it. I still cant believe you think Price was positively encouraged by the North Bank... Although you probably dont actually think that at all do you? |
Wrong. Weak argument.
In fact I think I only ever got involved in one other thread with you and in this one or that one I haven't insulted you. In this one I've partly agreed with.
Unlike yourself I don't crave the validation of other posters and I'm quite happy to have reasonable conversation with you, regardlesss of whether our opinions are polarised, which in this case they're not, entirely, so if you have the mental capacity to have a normal conversation that would be wonderful.
Happy to ignore your previous attempts to insult. [Post edited 17 Sep 2017 10:42]
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:37 - Sep 17 with 2657 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:34 - Sep 17 by ItchySphincter |
Wrong. Weak argument.
In fact I think I only ever got involved in one other thread with you and in this one or that one I haven't insulted you. In this one I've partly agreed with.
Unlike yourself I don't crave the validation of other posters and I'm quite happy to have reasonable conversation with you, regardlesss of whether our opinions are polarised, which in this case they're not, entirely, so if you have the mental capacity to have a normal conversation that would be wonderful.
Happy to ignore your previous attempts to insult. [Post edited 17 Sep 2017 10:42]
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I will translate..
"Sh*t I forgot I acted like a plank to this guy after he schooled me before, but I cant back down now, I will just say anything and sure it will be fine, cant get worse than saying Orice was encluraged by the North Bank anyway". [Post edited 17 Sep 2017 10:37]
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:40 - Sep 17 with 2653 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:34 - Sep 17 by jack247 |
JdG was a very good player, who as E20 quite rightly points out, was sometimes unfairly accused of laziness, though it was far more often the cowardice and not caring sticks he got beat with.
What E20 doesn't acknowledge, is that players like Orlandi and VdG used to get the same kind of abuse. |
Being called lazy now and again and geting a stigma attached to you to the point where you are called lazy even when working very hard are two completely different things. That is something you don't seem able to recognise.
Ask 100 people to describe Orlandi and Van der Gun and very seldom will you hear the term lazy. Rubbish and injury prone will be the dominant descriptive words. Repeat that process for the likes of Gomis and Scotland.... | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:41 - Sep 17 with 2650 views | jack247 |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:37 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
I will translate..
"Sh*t I forgot I acted like a plank to this guy after he schooled me before, but I cant back down now, I will just say anything and sure it will be fine, cant get worse than saying Orice was encluraged by the North Bank anyway". [Post edited 17 Sep 2017 10:37]
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Price did get encouraged by the North Bank. When he was playing well, they were right behind him. Unfortunately, he was also one of the first they turned on when things weren't going so good. Overall, he certainly took more abuse than applause.
It was small potatoes in comparison to what Michael Howard got though. | | | |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:44 - Sep 17 with 2638 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:41 - Sep 17 by jack247 |
Price did get encouraged by the North Bank. When he was playing well, they were right behind him. Unfortunately, he was also one of the first they turned on when things weren't going so good. Overall, he certainly took more abuse than applause.
It was small potatoes in comparison to what Michael Howard got though. |
Again we disagree massively.
Howard was never accused of being lazy or for being white. He was abused for being inept.
Jason Price was abused and jeered at every touch for games on end the focus mainly being bl*ck and lazy. Ask Jason Price whether he felt the abuse was "small potatoes". | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:45 - Sep 17 with 2633 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:37 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
I will translate..
"Sh*t I forgot I acted like a plank to this guy after he schooled me before, but I cant back down now, I will just say anything and sure it will be fine, cant get worse than saying Orice was encluraged by the North Bank anyway". [Post edited 17 Sep 2017 10:37]
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So you will insist on referring to another thread where we shared a different opinion to validate yourself on this one?
Letting yourself down now fella but something tells me, maybe history, that it has been your agenda to derail and argue through another thread. Oh well, unfortunate. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:46 - Sep 17 with 2630 views | Darran |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:44 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
Again we disagree massively.
Howard was never accused of being lazy or for being white. He was abused for being inept.
Jason Price was abused and jeered at every touch for games on end the focus mainly being bl*ck and lazy. Ask Jason Price whether he felt the abuse was "small potatoes". |
Jason Price was never jerered for being black and lazy he was jeered because he said he wanted to leave. |  |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:47 - Sep 17 with 2629 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:46 - Sep 17 by Darran |
Jason Price was never jerered for being black and lazy he was jeered because he said he wanted to leave. |
So did Ferrie Bodde, dont think I ever heard people calling him a "lazy bl*ck b*stard" with sheer regularity though. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:49 - Sep 17 with 2626 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:46 - Sep 17 by Darran |
Jason Price was never jerered for being black and lazy he was jeered because he said he wanted to leave. |
No point Dazzler. Anyone can make up 'facts' to suit their agenda. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:51 - Sep 17 with 2616 views | jack247 |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:44 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
Again we disagree massively.
Howard was never accused of being lazy or for being white. He was abused for being inept.
Jason Price was abused and jeered at every touch for games on end the focus mainly being bl*ck and lazy. Ask Jason Price whether he felt the abuse was "small potatoes". |
I'm not saying it was to him, I'm just saying Michael Howard took a lot more abuse. The vast majority of the abuse both got was for not being good enough.
I'm not sure why Jason Price would get racist abuse and players like Ampadu wouldn't. Though I will absolutely admit, we did have our fair share of overt racist cavemen in the North Bank in the 90s. I think there is a huge difference between outright racism like that and our perception of people thinking a black player is lazy as per Scotland.
At least we are agreeing to disagree now. | | | |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:51 - Sep 17 with 2615 views | Darran |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:47 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
So did Ferrie Bodde, dont think I ever heard people calling him a "lazy bl*ck b*stard" with sheer regularity though. |
Nah didn't happen. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:51 - Sep 17 with 2615 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:45 - Sep 17 by ItchySphincter |
So you will insist on referring to another thread where we shared a different opinion to validate yourself on this one?
Letting yourself down now fella but something tells me, maybe history, that it has been your agenda to derail and argue through another thread. Oh well, unfortunate. |
Not letting myself down at all. I domt suffer fools, I set that stall out early.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/members/ItchySphincter/polls/
This was a thread (noted by others) designed to goad, which was a follow om from the initial sanches thread in which you disagreed with me regarding the knowledge of some companies. Which of course I was proven correct on.
Thanks. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:53 - Sep 17 with 2606 views | ItchySphincter |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:47 - Sep 17 by E20Jack |
So did Ferrie Bodde, dont think I ever heard people calling him a "lazy bl*ck b*stard" with sheer regularity though. |
Ferrie signed a new deal. If JJ had have been any good and got a new deal he could have been a hero like any other player, black or white. | |
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| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:54 - Sep 17 with 2679 views | E20Jack |
| Renato Sanches - just walks and ambles around the pitch on 10:51 - Sep 17 by Darran |
Nah didn't happen. |
If only that were true, it is one of the most shameful experiences I have had on the North Bank during that period and is with me vividly today and will be for a long time. It was horrific verbal abuse.
I also remember being at Diva Stadium when we played Chester, he was through on goal and went down after a player clipped his heels. Our fans thought he was looking for a penalty when he had the chance to score and the crowd ripped into a torrent of racial abuse towards him.
It happened. Regularly. | |
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