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Very good Keith.
Both Coleman and Williams are way out of their depth.
Coleman treating the club as a plaything, a toy, laughing to himself that he is in charge, making all the decisions. Whilst the fans watch the club sink lower and lower. He has no idea whatsoever how to run a football club. Should he be allowed to run us into the ground?
He brings in Williams mate, and yes, they are mates, to play alongside him.
Enough watching from the sidelines. Whoever is going to the fans forum onTuesday really needs to ask crucial questions, and get answers. If Coleman messes about at the forum, papering over the cracks, then I can see a fans revolt big time. The bollocks has to stop.
Coleman came in promising the earth, but so far, has done nothing at all.
The ticket office is skeleton staff, hard to get through, they don’t answer emails because they have not got the time.
The catering in the concourses is a shambles.
They seem hell bent on advertising Reviva coffee. I would hope that the club get millions out of Reviva, but it’s probably peanuts.
I could go on. And on. And on. [Post edited 16 Feb 10:14]
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:13 - Feb 16 with 3300 views | jacksfullaces |
makes a sad read this.
we have been crying out for a structural solution ever since the ownership changed hands in the PL
Sadly each structural solution, including managerial appointments associated with, are worse than the last.
which is why whatever action happens next (yes, Williams will go for sure) will do no more than provide a possible stay of execution
football clubs are so much forced to manage game to game and month to month, the better ones seem to extend that for a slightly longer period; since the last couple of years in the PL we have got progressively worse it feels.
although do remind ourselves that on paper, last Summer, everyone felt it was a positive transfer window? So do we occasionally find the foundations, but still manage to implode? | | | |
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Very good Keith.
Both Coleman and Williams are way out of their depth.
Coleman treating the club as a plaything, a toy, laughing to himself that he is in charge, making all the decisions. Whilst the fans watch the club sink lower and lower. He has no idea whatsoever how to run a football club. Should he be allowed to run us into the ground?
He brings in Williams mate, and yes, they are mates, to play alongside him.
Enough watching from the sidelines. Whoever is going to the fans forum onTuesday really needs to ask crucial questions, and get answers. If Coleman messes about at the forum, papering over the cracks, then I can see a fans revolt big time. The bollocks has to stop.
Coleman came in promising the earth, but so far, has done nothing at all.
The ticket office is skeleton staff, hard to get through, they don’t answer emails because they have not got the time.
The catering in the concourses is a shambles.
They seem hell bent on advertising Reviva coffee. I would hope that the club get millions out of Reviva, but it’s probably peanuts.
I could go on. And on. And on. [Post edited 16 Feb 10:14]
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lets just remember when Newport went t0ts p, therer was a yank in charge.
Boy scouts motto......be prepared. |  | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:31 - Feb 16 with 3145 views | PawelAbbott |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:13 - Feb 16 by jacksfullaces |
makes a sad read this.
we have been crying out for a structural solution ever since the ownership changed hands in the PL
Sadly each structural solution, including managerial appointments associated with, are worse than the last.
which is why whatever action happens next (yes, Williams will go for sure) will do no more than provide a possible stay of execution
football clubs are so much forced to manage game to game and month to month, the better ones seem to extend that for a slightly longer period; since the last couple of years in the PL we have got progressively worse it feels.
although do remind ourselves that on paper, last Summer, everyone felt it was a positive transfer window? So do we occasionally find the foundations, but still manage to implode? |
People did look at the summer transfer business as positive at the time. But how many of those players still look like positive recruits? Vigoroux and Franco? Eom and Vipotnik look terrible in general. Ronald has been here a year and is a shade of the player he was.
The main investors must see that Williams is devaluing their investment at an alarming rate | | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:48 - Feb 16 with 3041 views | Luther27 |
Excellent report that makes a difficult read. How pathetic have we become as a club. Getting rid of Williams would just be a start….and I think the club have left it to late to survive in this division. | | | |
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lets just remember when Newport went t0ts p, therer was a yank in charge.
Boy scouts motto......be prepared. |
The fans had a chance to be very big hitters.. They were fans and WELSH. Instead they abstained. Look in the mirror before having a go at our American owners, the ones that do not hide.
I am looking forward to how Coleman behaves at the forum.
At least now 10 years after Laudrup he has a plan. Perhaps the clever football analytics can find a good manager.
In general good coaches improve teams and players after year in charge. Williams has been pretty lucky with injuries as well. Just Ginnelly and Pederson and crocked Joey who should never have returned. |  |
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What worries me is looking at Venkys at Blackburn. Everyone knows their unpopularity, yet they’ve been in situ since 2010. At a club that’s won the premier league, & now has been a very average championship club since about 2012. Now they lose a manager to a relegation candidate in the same league? What does that say about their ownership?
I’ve often wondered why, if they are so unpopular with their fans, why don’t they try & do something about it after all these years? Maybe they’ve tried in some ways (I don’t know the ins and outs), but ultimately they’re still there.
My point is, can you imagine what life would be like here if we still had Coleman et al in charge in 2035? That really concerns me, as by then, we could be seeing us just being an average championship club a distant memory.
I can’t make the forum due to work commitments, but I hope that whoever does go, gets some sort of answers from these amateurs, rather than the usual club propaganda.
I bought a ticket (through the app) for the east stand for last Wednesday’s game. When I got there just before kick off, I noticed that the ticket that came through on my phone, was for a seat right at the top of the west stand. Just about sums everything up at the moment.
A chairman who doesn’t know what staff to employ, a new dof who is data driven, a manager who’s out of his depth. What could possibly go wrong?
Worrying times ahead |  | | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:58 - Feb 16 with 2924 views | longlostjack |
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People did look at the summer transfer business as positive at the time. But how many of those players still look like positive recruits? Vigoroux and Franco? Eom and Vipotnik look terrible in general. Ronald has been here a year and is a shade of the player he was.
The main investors must see that Williams is devaluing their investment at an alarming rate |
Exactly. The other investors need to act sharpish and replace Coleman before it's too late. He's snookered himself into relying on a failing manager. The fans can see it, the former captain could see it, blindingly obvious to commentators on BBC Stoke. Why are the investors prepared to tolerate it? |  |
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Exactly. The other investors need to act sharpish and replace Coleman before it's too late. He's snookered himself into relying on a failing manager. The fans can see it, the former captain could see it, blindingly obvious to commentators on BBC Stoke. Why are the investors prepared to tolerate it? |
The thing is that it appears no one on the investment team are capable of being a football chairman. Therefore we’d have to employ one at great cost and they wouldn’t be able to make the final decision without a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with the investors as it was with Coleman and K&L.
I’m not saying do nothing, far from it but it needs to be for the better. |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:09 - Feb 16 with 2808 views | vetchonian |
Since when did the home and away directors watch the game from the boardroom?
Andy Coleman watches the games alongside the other directors ( when they are here) and the opposition directors from the directors box where he was sat on Wednesday night.
Why spoil a good article with sensationalism and exaggerating of facts.
My seat is not far from the directors box and I certainly cannot recall seeing Coleman waving his jacket and running around the concourse when we scored v the scum .... | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:13 - Feb 16 with 2770 views | magicdaps10 |
A few sponsors were not approached in the summer after years of sponsorship, some were prepared to carry on but as they were not approached thought F it.
Regards the boxes, they are signed up either for a year or for upto 3 years, I know there has been price increases so would assume these people have decided to not renew for next season for whatever the reason. |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:14 - Feb 16 with 2757 views | PawelAbbott |
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The thing is that it appears no one on the investment team are capable of being a football chairman. Therefore we’d have to employ one at great cost and they wouldn’t be able to make the final decision without a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with the investors as it was with Coleman and K&L.
I’m not saying do nothing, far from it but it needs to be for the better. |
Aren't we already paying Coleman around £500k.
He can go back to his day job of running a hotel and take Gude with him.
That frees up nearly £1m a year to bring in an experienced chairman with relevant experience. | | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:15 - Feb 16 with 2748 views | dobjack2 |
Sums up what is wrong with the club.
The chairman is so out of his depth in charge of a professional football club in the UK and the manager is out of his depth tactically and preparing the team.
The manager needs to go and has needed to go for a while. The chairman needs to stand back, take a long hard look in the mirror and take advice from people who know what they are doing.
With this perfect storm we will be lucky to stay up unless major decisions are taken quickly. The problem is that prospective managers and their agents will know that the club is a basket case run by someone who would be out of his depth in a puddle. | | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:29 - Feb 16 with 2636 views | donkonky |
Isn’t this the exact scenario that Trust is meant to protect against? The early days of its existence were quite something special to be a part of . I know that a lot of bitterness has been evoked over the way it evolved and in particular the part it played in the takeover but surely it can be revived as focal point for change. I’m sure that when needed the very same supporters who had the drive, energy and fight will stand up again. |  | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:39 - Feb 16 with 2574 views | max936 |
Excellent piece which tells where we are heading, it's a shambles on the pitch, but it all looks much worse behind the scenes.
Coleman seems incapable of sorting the problems out, he's actually creating more problems it seems, him and Williams need to go, these investors need to turn up unannounced on a match day and see it for themselves, assuming they care of course. |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:45 - Feb 16 with 2507 views | raynor94 |
Williams has to go now! A new manager would give us a lift even with this squad, and see us to safety.
Lucky again yesterday nobody made a big inroad to our points total |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:45 - Feb 16 by raynor94 |
Williams has to go now! A new manager would give us a lift even with this squad, and see us to safety.
Lucky again yesterday nobody made a big inroad to our points total |
It won’t matter if we don’t pick many more points up. Those below us seem far more capable of picking up more. Even the 7 points lead will evaporate soon, it’s inevitable. | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:54 - Feb 16 with 2437 views | KeithHaynes |
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Isn’t this the exact scenario that Trust is meant to protect against? The early days of its existence were quite something special to be a part of . I know that a lot of bitterness has been evoked over the way it evolved and in particular the part it played in the takeover but surely it can be revived as focal point for change. I’m sure that when needed the very same supporters who had the drive, energy and fight will stand up again. |
That was nearly 24 years ago, and the action against the club at the time started in 1997. Those same supporters saved the club, gave us the best period in Swansea history. It doesn’t fall upon them again. There’s a lot of people complaining especially on social media. The majority too scared to stand up because their names are anonymous and some have a history of social media abuse.
The intent to do something isn’t there, the will to stand up and be counted isn’t there. We would actively and positively support any move by the fans to take action. This website would give them a national reach in a day. But nothing is happening because it takes more than a few lines on social media generally insulting to others. This is the world now sadly.
As per the report, those days many years ago and contained real people with names and dedication to the club. That spine isn’t evident at this time. And I doubt very much it ever will.
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:29 - Feb 16 by donkonky |
Isn’t this the exact scenario that Trust is meant to protect against? The early days of its existence were quite something special to be a part of . I know that a lot of bitterness has been evoked over the way it evolved and in particular the part it played in the takeover but surely it can be revived as focal point for change. I’m sure that when needed the very same supporters who had the drive, energy and fight will stand up again. |
This Trust has no gumption to do anything apart from posting the occasional statements about them being constantly in contact with Coleman and the like, I take that with the pinch of salt it deserves, they've made themselves toothless and a total nonentity, basically they sold the members out and should be outed themselves, they're as useless as Coleman and Williams anyone found out what his butty actually does yet? | |
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This Trust has no gumption to do anything apart from posting the occasional statements about them being constantly in contact with Coleman and the like, I take that with the pinch of salt it deserves, they've made themselves toothless and a total nonentity, basically they sold the members out and should be outed themselves, they're as useless as Coleman and Williams anyone found out what his butty actually does yet? |
Is he even still there ? | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 12:01 - Feb 16 by max936 |
This Trust has no gumption to do anything apart from posting the occasional statements about them being constantly in contact with Coleman and the like, I take that with the pinch of salt it deserves, they've made themselves toothless and a total nonentity, basically they sold the members out and should be outed themselves, they're as useless as Coleman and Williams anyone found out what his butty actually does yet? |
Suppose that’s my point. I don’t really know the make up of the current set up, but if they are not up for the fight ( maybe they are, I just don’t know anything they do anymore) then start the change here. It’s the only vehicle available to get at the owners. For all their faults the original trust board had the balls to take on the establishment. Maybe just maybe there are others who can step up to plate. | | | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 12:10 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
Is he even still there ? |
No idea Keef, the man is a man of mystery. | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:52 - Feb 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The fans had a chance to be very big hitters.. They were fans and WELSH. Instead they abstained. Look in the mirror before having a go at our American owners, the ones that do not hide.
I am looking forward to how Coleman behaves at the forum.
At least now 10 years after Laudrup he has a plan. Perhaps the clever football analytics can find a good manager.
In general good coaches improve teams and players after year in charge. Williams has been pretty lucky with injuries as well. Just Ginnelly and Pederson and crocked Joey who should never have returned. |
"At least now 10 years after Laudrup he has a plan."
The plan is already in tatters, LW should have gone a month ago, as a team, players, and club we have regressed since the WBA affair.
football nation wide is a close knit family, our issues whatever they are are probably well known in the footy circle.
if it was a plan to survive this season and rebuild.....no money, who at the moment would come here. the young lad from abroad was swung by Michu memories.
AC trust me on my record has failed , LW has bust many a dream and player, and probably this club. [Post edited 16 Feb 12:51]
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 10:52 - Feb 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The fans had a chance to be very big hitters.. They were fans and WELSH. Instead they abstained. Look in the mirror before having a go at our American owners, the ones that do not hide.
I am looking forward to how Coleman behaves at the forum.
At least now 10 years after Laudrup he has a plan. Perhaps the clever football analytics can find a good manager.
In general good coaches improve teams and players after year in charge. Williams has been pretty lucky with injuries as well. Just Ginnelly and Pederson and crocked Joey who should never have returned. |
Again you are on your own with your view
The forum is just a tick box exercise and will solve nothing
Coleman and the board don't need the fans to tell them what is wrong.
Or if they do it is worse than I imagined
Don't care if we have Yanks, Taff's, Chinese, whoever in charge as long as the club is going the right way.
When it is isn't then owners both past and present deserve all the pelters they get.
Wherever they hail from.
Being Yanks does not make them immune from criticism
Wake up and smell the coffee rather than keep playing your worn out record |  |
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