| Leadership team on 15:27 - Feb 12 with 3147 views | 442Dale |
Interesting changes. Transparent communication is most welcome. |  |
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| Leadership team on 15:35 - Feb 12 with 3120 views | DorsetDale |
On the face of it, has to be welcome news.
Would appear - at least to my eyes - that maybe our co-chair has had
his wings clipped? |  |
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| Leadership team on 15:44 - Feb 12 with 3068 views | D_Alien |
| Leadership team on 15:35 - Feb 12 by DorsetDale |
On the face of it, has to be welcome news.
Would appear - at least to my eyes - that maybe our co-chair has had
his wings clipped? |
I would say so
If the Ogdens can see what we can see (and i don't doubt it) these changes will professionalise the decision-making, taking it away from the hands of anyone without solid business credentials and experience |  |
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| Leadership team on 15:51 - Feb 12 with 3029 views | Dalenet |
I welcome the fact that we are strengthening for the future. We had to cut right back after relegation and George was originally recuited as an Operations person and not as a CEO, yet he seemed to have to do an awful lot. in Having an MD, a football Head and an Operations Head we have more than doubled our leadership capacity. Simon and Cameron as non exec directors are there for oversight - not to run the place. A good change - onwards and upwards. | | | |
| Leadership team on 16:14 - Feb 12 with 2914 views | TalkingSutty |
| Leadership team on 15:51 - Feb 12 by Dalenet |
I welcome the fact that we are strengthening for the future. We had to cut right back after relegation and George was originally recuited as an Operations person and not as a CEO, yet he seemed to have to do an awful lot. in Having an MD, a football Head and an Operations Head we have more than doubled our leadership capacity. Simon and Cameron as non exec directors are there for oversight - not to run the place. A good change - onwards and upwards. |
This is the best news we've had since the Ogden takeover. We can't move forward as a club until the day to day running of the club changes. You need quality people in place with experience of working in and around football clubs, it appears as though we now have that. I just hope all three have big enough personalities to stick up for themselves and report any interference back to the Ogdens. The team off the pitch is just as important as on it and anybody at the club who cant grasp the concept of that needs to be exposed. The co-chairman now needs to let the experts in their field get on with their jobs with no interference from him..he should just enjoy matchdays and attend board meetings. Great work by the Ogden family in implementing these changes. I hope Cameron Ogden liases frequently with all three and ensures there is no interference from Simon Gauge, Tony Pockney etc. They've proved they weren't very good at running a football club, thankfully the Ogden family stepped in at the last minute to save it. The club needs big changes and bridges need building. [Post edited 12 Feb 16:43]
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| Leadership team on 17:31 - Feb 12 with 2694 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Leadership team on 15:35 - Feb 12 by DorsetDale |
On the face of it, has to be welcome news.
Would appear - at least to my eyes - that maybe our co-chair has had
his wings clipped? |
Will he ever fly again? | | | |
| Leadership team on 17:35 - Feb 12 with 2681 views | EllDale |
No longer Monarch of all he surveys? | | | |
| Leadership team on 18:33 - Feb 12 with 2551 views | Rodingdale |
| Leadership team on 16:14 - Feb 12 by TalkingSutty |
This is the best news we've had since the Ogden takeover. We can't move forward as a club until the day to day running of the club changes. You need quality people in place with experience of working in and around football clubs, it appears as though we now have that. I just hope all three have big enough personalities to stick up for themselves and report any interference back to the Ogdens. The team off the pitch is just as important as on it and anybody at the club who cant grasp the concept of that needs to be exposed. The co-chairman now needs to let the experts in their field get on with their jobs with no interference from him..he should just enjoy matchdays and attend board meetings. Great work by the Ogden family in implementing these changes. I hope Cameron Ogden liases frequently with all three and ensures there is no interference from Simon Gauge, Tony Pockney etc. They've proved they weren't very good at running a football club, thankfully the Ogden family stepped in at the last minute to save it. The club needs big changes and bridges need building. [Post edited 12 Feb 16:43]
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These changes sound very positive, but these are “officer” posts. There is no mention of changes to the board. I too would hope that Gauge is increasingly sidelined, and that the management line goes from the three amigos to Cameron, not Gauge. The Co chairmanship was always going to be a face saver, time to deal with that ambiguity now we have a management structure in place.
This with the announcement of the solar panels, starts to feel like there’s real tangible progress. But in a way increasing resource is a no brainer. Decisions to cut out poor attitudes and cultures are harder to take, but will be necessary, in due course, if we are to really push on; the drive to grow crowds will be helped by these changes announced today, but home form and the on field entertainment offer does need to improve significantly to support all this good work. | | | |
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| Leadership team on 19:19 - Feb 12 with 2428 views | TalkingSutty |
| Leadership team on 18:33 - Feb 12 by Rodingdale |
These changes sound very positive, but these are “officer” posts. There is no mention of changes to the board. I too would hope that Gauge is increasingly sidelined, and that the management line goes from the three amigos to Cameron, not Gauge. The Co chairmanship was always going to be a face saver, time to deal with that ambiguity now we have a management structure in place.
This with the announcement of the solar panels, starts to feel like there’s real tangible progress. But in a way increasing resource is a no brainer. Decisions to cut out poor attitudes and cultures are harder to take, but will be necessary, in due course, if we are to really push on; the drive to grow crowds will be helped by these changes announced today, but home form and the on field entertainment offer does need to improve significantly to support all this good work. |
Yes, agree with that. I wouldn't have a problem with Gauge staying in position as long as he wasnt involved in the day to day running of the club (he wont leave of his own accord). The decisions coming out of the club over the last few years have been ridiculous and it can never be forgotten that we lost our 102 year league status on his watch. He was the captain of the ship at the time. We very nearly lost the club also. [Post edited 12 Feb 19:23]
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| Leadership team on 20:28 - Feb 12 with 2239 views | 49thseason |
We assume that SG wanted to be in volved in the day to day running of the club, but that might not be the case...
At any rate these changes are an essential first step to an era of change within the club, cheerful amateurism is out and replaced by competence and clear lines of responsibility.
The club has needed these changes for a long time, but at last they are building capacity prior to what I guess will be a step change in the professionalism of RAFC behind the scenes and in front of them...
it feels like the Ogdens have kicked the tyres and are are ready to start putting petrol in the tank.. Solar panels (tick) = cost reduction, and a contribution in future to the overheads. Management structure (tick) .. a summer of work on the Main Stand? Training ground? (note the RMBC mention as part of the job description) Links with the Community Trust and the Ogden Foundation strengthened, and an MD to hold it all together....
These changes should reduce the number of crises and unexplained decisions that have had such a negative effect in the past, The momentum is shifting and a good thing too. |  | | |
| Leadership team on 21:07 - Feb 12 with 2105 views | Marjorie_Plane |
| Leadership team on 19:19 - Feb 12 by TalkingSutty |
Yes, agree with that. I wouldn't have a problem with Gauge staying in position as long as he wasnt involved in the day to day running of the club (he wont leave of his own accord). The decisions coming out of the club over the last few years have been ridiculous and it can never be forgotten that we lost our 102 year league status on his watch. He was the captain of the ship at the time. We very nearly lost the club also. [Post edited 12 Feb 19:23]
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Please don't forget that on two occasions, we were literally minutes away from him signing the club over to a bunch of charlatans and fraudsters. I accept that his families money kept the club going but also don't forget it was the fans who fought off Morton House & raised nearly £70,000 to pay for legal expenses.
In the summer of 2022 we had a ground swell of support and an army of fans all willing to help and support. He was the captain of the ship that let them all dwindle away.
Today's news is very positive indeed. |  | | |
| Leadership team on 22:29 - Feb 12 with 1912 views | TalkingSutty |
| Leadership team on 21:07 - Feb 12 by Marjorie_Plane |
Please don't forget that on two occasions, we were literally minutes away from him signing the club over to a bunch of charlatans and fraudsters. I accept that his families money kept the club going but also don't forget it was the fans who fought off Morton House & raised nearly £70,000 to pay for legal expenses.
In the summer of 2022 we had a ground swell of support and an army of fans all willing to help and support. He was the captain of the ship that let them all dwindle away.
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No, i haven't forgot any of that. Gauge should have thanked the fans for saving the club again but he didn't, he blamed the fans for interfering instead. He can never admit that he's wrong. He was wrong at the infamous AGM also, a very dark day in the history of our club. I'm not even convinced he would have chosen the Ogden family had the decision been left to him, thats how poor i think his decision making is. I did mention in a previous post about the ridiculous decision making coming out of the club over the last few years and his fellow Directors must also take some of the blame for that.. Hopefully this will stop now, Simon Gauge will fade into the background and we can stop talking about him. Start of a new era now off the pitch hopefully. [Post edited 12 Feb 22:37]
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| Leadership team on 17:58 - Feb 13 with 1371 views | judd |
Interesting and encouraging that two of the three have been appointed since the Ogden family saved us.
I hope the MD is afforded the autonomy required to make decisions without having to refer everything upstairs. |  |
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| Leadership team on 18:04 - Feb 13 with 1350 views | Dale_4_Life |
Got to be a good thing...
Now for the difficult bit... actually moving the club forward..
Good Luck to all involved.
Edit. 12 supporters comment on the biggest off field news in a long time. Has apathy really set in this deep?
I guess this shows the most important thing is what happens on the pitch any given match day. Always has been always will be. [Post edited 14 Feb 6:14]
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| Leadership team on 13:27 - Feb 14 with 812 views | AtThePeake |
| Leadership team on 16:14 - Feb 12 by TalkingSutty |
This is the best news we've had since the Ogden takeover. We can't move forward as a club until the day to day running of the club changes. You need quality people in place with experience of working in and around football clubs, it appears as though we now have that. I just hope all three have big enough personalities to stick up for themselves and report any interference back to the Ogdens. The team off the pitch is just as important as on it and anybody at the club who cant grasp the concept of that needs to be exposed. The co-chairman now needs to let the experts in their field get on with their jobs with no interference from him..he should just enjoy matchdays and attend board meetings. Great work by the Ogden family in implementing these changes. I hope Cameron Ogden liases frequently with all three and ensures there is no interference from Simon Gauge, Tony Pockney etc. They've proved they weren't very good at running a football club, thankfully the Ogden family stepped in at the last minute to save it. The club needs big changes and bridges need building. [Post edited 12 Feb 16:43]
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Why is it that GD is held in such high regard and viewed in such a different light from SG and TP? Appreciate he's an employee rather than a board member and didn't have much to do with the wrangling for control of the club but surely in his role a lot of the day to day decision making will have come down to him over the last few years.
(This isn't a case of me trying to dig out GD, just genuinely interested as to why it is that people think he's such a good fit for this role).
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| Leadership team on 13:48 - Feb 14 with 753 views | D_Alien |
| Leadership team on 13:27 - Feb 14 by AtThePeake |
Why is it that GD is held in such high regard and viewed in such a different light from SG and TP? Appreciate he's an employee rather than a board member and didn't have much to do with the wrangling for control of the club but surely in his role a lot of the day to day decision making will have come down to him over the last few years.
(This isn't a case of me trying to dig out GD, just genuinely interested as to why it is that people think he's such a good fit for this role).
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That's something i was pondering too
If you'd have asked me a year or so ago whether GD was fully up to his role, i'd have been highly sceptical. He seemed nervous at forums and unable to give a straight answer to questions, for instance about the list of shareholders
Now, i'm much more inclined to take a positive view of him. Perhaps he took on a poisoned chalice after the fall of the Bottomley regime and it took a while for him to get some kind of grip on things. More recently, including at the latest forum, he's come across much more impressively. That could well be down to the support of the Ogdens and since they'd be the last people to allow anyone in such a key role to get away with substandard performance, that must give him confidence and it showed [Post edited 14 Feb 14:32]
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| Leadership team on 16:54 - Feb 14 with 480 views | Marjorie_Plane |
| Leadership team on 18:04 - Feb 13 by Dale_4_Life |
Got to be a good thing...
Now for the difficult bit... actually moving the club forward..
Good Luck to all involved.
Edit. 12 supporters comment on the biggest off field news in a long time. Has apathy really set in this deep?
I guess this shows the most important thing is what happens on the pitch any given match day. Always has been always will be. [Post edited 14 Feb 6:14]
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Has apathy really set in this deep? Maybe whats happening on the pitch is reflected in the forum? I'll pass it back to you.... | | | |
| Leadership team on 16:56 - Feb 14 with 475 views | 49thseason |
| Leadership team on 13:48 - Feb 14 by D_Alien |
That's something i was pondering too
If you'd have asked me a year or so ago whether GD was fully up to his role, i'd have been highly sceptical. He seemed nervous at forums and unable to give a straight answer to questions, for instance about the list of shareholders
Now, i'm much more inclined to take a positive view of him. Perhaps he took on a poisoned chalice after the fall of the Bottomley regime and it took a while for him to get some kind of grip on things. More recently, including at the latest forum, he's come across much more impressively. That could well be down to the support of the Ogdens and since they'd be the last people to allow anyone in such a key role to get away with substandard performance, that must give him confidence and it showed [Post edited 14 Feb 14:32]
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I think the new appointment will slim down the scale and scope of what GD has to deal with.. focus on the football side of things probably suits him more than the broader role he has had to contend with ( pitch, stadium etc.).
The reason stuff falls through the gaps is usually down to having too much on the plate. Sorting out player registrations and all the legislation around loans, cards, competitions etc. And then throwing in leaky pipes, pitch problems and the rest probably is too much and things inevitably get forgotten or put on the back burner.
The new appointee has experience and will bring new insights and even contacts which will be more than useful.
Throw in the experience the Ogden board members come with and we are being positioned for growth. The pieces are being placed on the chess board ready for the next steps..... | | | |
| Leadership team on 19:59 - Feb 14 with 289 views | TalkingSutty |
| Leadership team on 13:27 - Feb 14 by AtThePeake |
Why is it that GD is held in such high regard and viewed in such a different light from SG and TP? Appreciate he's an employee rather than a board member and didn't have much to do with the wrangling for control of the club but surely in his role a lot of the day to day decision making will have come down to him over the last few years.
(This isn't a case of me trying to dig out GD, just genuinely interested as to why it is that people think he's such a good fit for this role).
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GD is a employee rather than a board member, there is a professionalism about him, even though it's a very quiet one. I dont believe he's been responsible for the naive and amateurish decision making over the last few years. Hes not the figurehead of the club neither or a member of the boardroom. I dont see him in the same light as SG and TP. I dont hold him in high regard, I'm hopeful that hes good at his job though. | | | |
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