| Chair finally in the middle long term? 22:53 - Feb 4 with 4891 views | Jevlar |
A lot of positives tonight but one thing that feels like it’s been in the making forever is Illy playing in the Number 10 behind the striker role.
Bar getting a goal (which his first half display deserved) he had a great game. Anyone else feel he now needs to play there permanently and let Saito/Kolli take up the left wing berth? |  | | |  |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 21:28 - Feb 5 with 1116 views | RangersDave |
Its the 'Chair Goals map' i'm interested in. |  |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 22:48 - Feb 5 with 977 views | VancouverHoop |
A knock-on of having Chair in the middle is that it enables Saito to track back and support Paal on defence, which he did really well in the first half (not so well in the second when he gave away the pen!) Still that's something Chair never seemed comfortable with, consequently Paal seemed a better player last night than in recent matches. |  | | |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:33 - Feb 5 with 905 views | hoops_legend |
Didn’t feel like long ago people wanted chair dropped. Two games ago to be exact |  |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:44 - Feb 5 with 885 views | Northernr |
With Dunne the king of the castle and Ilias Chair playing at ten I am stunned we haven't had ParkRoyal riding in here like King Julien in Madagascar. |  | | |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:45 - Feb 5 with 883 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 20:00 - Feb 5 by simmo |
In short, YES. We play best when running through Chair, who is still our best player, and having him in the middle is the way to achieve that. He can drift from side to side, linking up with both full back / winger combinations (as he did brilliantly for the move that led to the Paal free kick and opening goal), and offer himself as an option in the final third. Both Smyth and Saito staying wide gives him and Morgan more space centrally, and I trust that S&S work hard enough both ways to not make the lack of another DM as much of a liability.
The downside is out of possession and figuring how to stop quick transitions. I was a little surprised Chair essentially took the Field role when we didn't have the ball - dropping deeper alongside Field who took the 'Varane' position, and Morgan was still being the one to press, but Marti addressed it himself in the post-match - there's still stuff to work on to find a better balance. The upside of being more threatening - especially if/when we regain possession high - is well worth the balance risk, IMO.
Also, as Brian mentioned, this only worked at all due to the work rate of Chair and Morgan, so we need to find ways to rotate them effectively and be quick to adjust if teams are exploiting the change too much. |
"I was a little surprised Chair essentially took the Field role when we didn't have the ball - dropping deeper alongside Field who took the 'Varane' position, and Morgan was still being the one to press"
I thought - guessed, really - that that was because being on the right Morgan was closer to Beck (he's got the Devil's Haircut) and he was a real danger man, so Morgan could press him quickly while Chair dropped quickly to left-centre mid to stop the overload from the cross-field ball. |  |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:47 - Feb 5 with 879 views | Lblock |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:44 - Feb 5 by Northernr |
With Dunne the king of the castle and Ilias Chair playing at ten I am stunned we haven't had ParkRoyal riding in here like King Julien in Madagascar. |
Kuntin off about Cook? |  |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 01:29 - Feb 6 with 801 views | simmo |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:45 - Feb 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
"I was a little surprised Chair essentially took the Field role when we didn't have the ball - dropping deeper alongside Field who took the 'Varane' position, and Morgan was still being the one to press"
I thought - guessed, really - that that was because being on the right Morgan was closer to Beck (he's got the Devil's Haircut) and he was a real danger man, so Morgan could press him quickly while Chair dropped quickly to left-centre mid to stop the overload from the cross-field ball. |
Very possibly. My assumption is that Morgan is just the better presser of the ball and has the legs to hurry and harass the person in possession, in the same way Amos used to do.
The reason I was surprised is that the last time we played 2 of the 3 'usual' midfielders was at Norwich away, in that case it was Morgan and Field alongside each other, with one going and the other sitting. This time it was less a 4231 and more the usual formation. I guess it's Marti trying to keep the same defensive shape and a level of consistency, but swapping Chair for Field (positionally) meaning we have more conviction when we have the ball.
Altogether it's a really interesting (and imo welcome) change, and with more options available post injury / transfer window at CB and attacking midfield, I wonder if this is a step towards a more expansive Marti style of play... |  |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 17:41 - Feb 7 with 527 views | golborne |
To clear up any confusion, we set up virtually every game as 4 2 3 1. Usually with F & V as the 2, but Morgan played there on Tues in lieu of Varane. The modern game obviously sees variation during the match. Field pushing on at times, Paal temporarily slipping into midfield at times etc | | | |
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| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 23:24 - Feb 7 with 413 views | baz_qpr |
Id say it changes as they move up the pitch, one of the stats sites called it 4-1-4-1, others call it 4-2-3-1 when defending deep its 4-5-1 they all 4-3-3 variants to be fair and we are very fluid. Chair was starting deeper than he would have done playing that role under other managers or even at the start of the season. Pushing furthest forward for the press when the keeper has the ball, |  | | |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 10:19 - Feb 8 with 241 views | Rsole |
| Chair finally in the middle long term? on 21:28 - Feb 5 by RangersDave |
Its the 'Chair Goals map' i'm interested in. |
And we are back to the invisible cloak for that Map.
Total Shots
20
Shots On Target
11
Shots Off Target
9
Big Chances Missed
2
Big Chances Scored
0
Big Chances Created
6
Goals In Box
0
Goals Out Box
0
Left Foot Goals
0
Right Foot Goals
0
Headed Goals
0
Free Kick Goals
0
Expected Goals
2.29
Expected Goals On Target
2.32
Expected Assists
3.55
Expected Goals Conceded
13.61
Touches
688
Minutes Played
1108
Madsen actually has more minutes played and 2 goals (he even has penalty map FFS !), so read into the stats whatever you like. |  |
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