| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:18 - Nov 13 with 1303 views | onehunglow |
Absolutely pointless looking back to see who was the worst coach . |  |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:29 - Nov 13 with 1281 views | SullutaCreturned |
BUT....how much did we get? That's all I care about. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:14 - Nov 13 with 1233 views | jack247 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:13 - Nov 13 by QJumpingJack |
Was Bradley the best candidate available in Autumn 2016?
Communication from the club has been poor in recent years (apart from Trevor Birch's tenure).
And I remember how poorly the Bob Bradley press conference was handled with Guidolin in the background. Poor planning from the club at the time. |
Depends what the criteria was
If you were naively confident that we would stay up regardless and you wanted to garner some supporters from your homeland, then yes he probably was.
Under any other criteria, we sacked an infinitely better coach just to crowbar him into the role. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:10 - Nov 13 with 1152 views | Dr_Winston |
The best candidate available was the one already at the club.
A track record of delivering finishes in Serie A way above the budgets available to him, whilst delivering attractive football and developing players in the process.
Sacking Guidolin was a lunatic decision. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 19:16 - Nov 13 with 1106 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:10 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
The best candidate available was the one already at the club.
A track record of delivering finishes in Serie A way above the budgets available to him, whilst delivering attractive football and developing players in the process.
Sacking Guidolin was a lunatic decision. |
And just as he'd got the team firing too. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:43 - Nov 13 with 1059 views | pencoedjack |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:10 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
The best candidate available was the one already at the club.
A track record of delivering finishes in Serie A way above the budgets available to him, whilst delivering attractive football and developing players in the process.
Sacking Guidolin was a lunatic decision. |
Seemed a very decent human being who we treated awfully. |  | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 07:32 - Nov 14 with 933 views | Dr_Winston |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:43 - Nov 13 by pencoedjack |
Seemed a very decent human being who we treated awfully. |
That "we" should also include a vocal minority of the supporters.
I can well remember the period where he had to spend a night or two in hospital and for some reason loads of people decided that they were going to criticise him for it and try to give credit for our results at the end of that season to Curtis instead. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 09:05 - Nov 14 with 872 views | EagleEye |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:29 - Nov 13 by SullutaCreturned |
BUT....how much did we get? That's all I care about. |
My guess is a few hundred thousand maximum. It has been reported that Nathan Wood went for between £2-3m - info in the latest reports is that included compo for RM breach of contract |  | | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 09:40 - Nov 14 with 847 views | Boundy |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 09:05 - Nov 14 by EagleEye |
My guess is a few hundred thousand maximum. It has been reported that Nathan Wood went for between £2-3m - info in the latest reports is that included compo for RM breach of contract |
How's Wood doing these day , tearing up trees ? | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 10:23 - Nov 14 with 803 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 09:40 - Nov 14 by Boundy |
How's Wood doing these day , tearing up trees ? |
He was a Stella player in the making,apparently | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 13:16 - Nov 14 with 735 views | jack247 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:43 - Nov 13 by pencoedjack |
Seemed a very decent human being who we treated awfully. |
Sacrificed in the name of nepotism | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:09 - Nov 14 with 695 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:43 - Nov 13 by pencoedjack |
Seemed a very decent human being who we treated awfully. |
He is sipping a very nice pinot grigio with his camari over looking the Island of Carpri with the chunky pay off Swansea gave him. All that stuff about the Bradley press conference on his birthday was spin. When to are over 60 birthdays s do not mean a lot . It's the calamari that counts. [Post edited 14 Nov 14:10]
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:22 - Nov 14 with 687 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:09 - Nov 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He is sipping a very nice pinot grigio with his camari over looking the Island of Carpri with the chunky pay off Swansea gave him. All that stuff about the Bradley press conference on his birthday was spin. When to are over 60 birthdays s do not mean a lot . It's the calamari that counts. [Post edited 14 Nov 14:10]
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A little spin for you, the guy makes me sick.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/awkward-moment-sacked |  | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:42 - Nov 14 with 663 views | onehunglow |
Pinot Grigio is utter plonk | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:42 - Nov 14 with 658 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:42 - Nov 14 by onehunglow |
Pinot Grigio is utter plonk |
Probably what Bradley drinks with his pay off. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:08 - Nov 14 with 639 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:42 - Nov 14 by Whiterockin |
Probably what Bradley drinks with his pay off. |
More like California Napa Valley .Chardonay
Far nicer | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:19 - Nov 14 with 579 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Giudoloin is not a 6 year old but an experienced football manager on huge wages. Frankly he did not give a fight at this. It was another spoke in the wheel of a Welsh anti American narrative engineered by low life forums that predated this we excellent one.
"On his birthday as well" Woe is mine!! Infamy infamy etc | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:28 - Nov 14 with 558 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:19 - Nov 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Giudoloin is not a 6 year old but an experienced football manager on huge wages. Frankly he did not give a fight at this. It was another spoke in the wheel of a Welsh anti American narrative engineered by low life forums that predated this we excellent one.
"On his birthday as well" Woe is mine!! Infamy infamy etc |
Yet another calamitous mistake by your heroes. Never mind they are on their way, better late than never. Going with a £50M black hole in their pockets, never mind you say they will right it off against tax. Just showing that you and your heroes don't and never have cared about the club, just the dollars. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:50 - Nov 14 with 510 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:28 - Nov 14 by Whiterockin |
Yet another calamitous mistake by your heroes. Never mind they are on their way, better late than never. Going with a £50M black hole in their pockets, never mind you say they will right it off against tax. Just showing that you and your heroes don't and never have cared about the club, just the dollars. |
They have now given up on their dream and accept their mistakes most probably I expect them to sell up DC United fairly soon.
They realised a few years back that they did not want spend big funds to get Swansea back in the PL. They tried to engage with the locals but did not have the interpersonal skills of Reynolds or even Silverstein or Coleman.
They are given a hard time but the real slackers were the old Trust people and their associates who declined to cash in their £22m when buyers were about. [Post edited 14 Nov 16:57]
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:57 - Nov 14 with 499 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:50 - Nov 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They have now given up on their dream and accept their mistakes most probably I expect them to sell up DC United fairly soon.
They realised a few years back that they did not want spend big funds to get Swansea back in the PL. They tried to engage with the locals but did not have the interpersonal skills of Reynolds or even Silverstein or Coleman.
They are given a hard time but the real slackers were the old Trust people and their associates who declined to cash in their £22m when buyers were about. [Post edited 14 Nov 16:57]
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Main thing is,they didn’t have the financial clout
We move forward
Hopefully
I disagree with you mostly but some of the stick yiu get isn’t edifying really. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:11 - Nov 14 with 486 views | Dr_Winston |
Wealthy ownership in the modern game is largely pointless. Kaplan and Levien were worth well North of a Billion Dollars between them, and their hands were largely tied (not that I think they were gagging to spend).
Even if the likes of John Hall and Jacks Walker and Hayward still existed, they couldn't spend what they did on players without breaching FFP regulations. Newcastle United are owned by one of the Planet's largest Sovereign Wealth Funds, and they can't do it either.
Forget the idea of spending our way back to the top. It's not happening, nor should it. What we can hope for is strong leadership, an actual plan, and a sense of purpose that has been lacking for the last few years. [Post edited 14 Nov 17:14]
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:32 - Nov 14 with 440 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:11 - Nov 14 by Dr_Winston |
Wealthy ownership in the modern game is largely pointless. Kaplan and Levien were worth well North of a Billion Dollars between them, and their hands were largely tied (not that I think they were gagging to spend).
Even if the likes of John Hall and Jacks Walker and Hayward still existed, they couldn't spend what they did on players without breaching FFP regulations. Newcastle United are owned by one of the Planet's largest Sovereign Wealth Funds, and they can't do it either.
Forget the idea of spending our way back to the top. It's not happening, nor should it. What we can hope for is strong leadership, an actual plan, and a sense of purpose that has been lacking for the last few years. [Post edited 14 Nov 17:14]
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Not sure on the rulings regards paying off debt though. I would have thought all debt wouldn’t be covered by P&S. of course they could chuck cash at the club, by my reckoning after next years declarations for 2023 they could have a twelve million buffer.
It’s a tricky old scenario though. |  |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:43 - Nov 14 with 430 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:11 - Nov 14 by Dr_Winston |
Wealthy ownership in the modern game is largely pointless. Kaplan and Levien were worth well North of a Billion Dollars between them, and their hands were largely tied (not that I think they were gagging to spend).
Even if the likes of John Hall and Jacks Walker and Hayward still existed, they couldn't spend what they did on players without breaching FFP regulations. Newcastle United are owned by one of the Planet's largest Sovereign Wealth Funds, and they can't do it either.
Forget the idea of spending our way back to the top. It's not happening, nor should it. What we can hope for is strong leadership, an actual plan, and a sense of purpose that has been lacking for the last few years. [Post edited 14 Nov 17:14]
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All you can ask for as supporters is a plan and progress, we have had neither over the last eight years and came close to breaching FFP though incompetence. You can not continually sell your best players and replace with inferior and expect to move forward. The recent plan of paying players league one wages in the championship without being flexible was suicidal. Then leaving us short up front by loaning players out in the summer just to cut wages was inexcusable. Having both central defenders nearly out of contract is beyond explainable. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 19:17 - Nov 14 with 382 views | Dr_Winston |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 17:43 - Nov 14 by Whiterockin |
All you can ask for as supporters is a plan and progress, we have had neither over the last eight years and came close to breaching FFP though incompetence. You can not continually sell your best players and replace with inferior and expect to move forward. The recent plan of paying players league one wages in the championship without being flexible was suicidal. Then leaving us short up front by loaning players out in the summer just to cut wages was inexcusable. Having both central defenders nearly out of contract is beyond explainable. |
I understand why over the last eighteen months or so budgets have been cut. We couldn't keep going in the long term needing £10m+ per season pumped in just to maintain what we had.
We're in a weird position at present. Some players are being paid too little, others are being paid too much. Ideally as I've said previously we'd take about 10/15 grand a week combined from Grimes and Pedersen and give it to Cabango and Darling.
A bit of a reset in how we build and maintain a squad is overdue, and we've probably gotten into the position we are due to a lack of a clear vision from the top as to exactly what we're trying to achieve. The biggest single mistake we've made in recent seasons was trying to replace Martin with Duff, and then Duff with Williams. Millions spent changing the way we do things only to bottle it and switch right back. We can't keep doing stupid things like that, and hopefully new management will prevent it. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:23 - Nov 14 with 319 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
When Swansea sold Piroe it was used to solve cash flow issues and keep the debt low. Presumably with big backers Swansea could sell a £10m player and replace with another £10m player with the debts staying under limits.
Swansea s ability to buy £190m prospects from £1m has declined. | |
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