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Moneyball 22:59 - Nov 9 with 2265 views

I mean this is shit. I was there today and manically celebrated Bennie coming on. Bennie for god's sake. But in reality does our current shitness reflect the relative value of our squad? I don't know and perhaps Bristol Cities squad is worth no more than a packet of out of date Nobby''s nuts but are we all getting angry when in fact bottom is not far off our players net worth.

Moneyball on 23:09 - Nov 9 with 2181 views

colinallcars

I dunno, I thought we had a Hill to climb when Bennie came on

Moneyball on 23:17 - Nov 9 with 2117 views

Kiko

Well Madsen and Celar alone were allegedly bought for a combined 6.5 million 😂 (if I don't laugh, I'll cry)

Moneyball on 23:46 - Nov 9 with 1964 views

Loyalitat

Moneyball on 23:17 - Nov 9 by Kiko
Well Madsen and Celar alone were allegedly bought for a combined 6.5 million 😂 (if I don't laugh, I'll cry)

Are you serious!? Wow. I never knew that we have reportedly paid that much for two players who have never played at a level that can be deemed as being championship equivalent.

Moneyball on 23:48 - Nov 9 with 1947 views

Watford_Ranger

Moneyball on 23:17 - Nov 9 by Kiko
Well Madsen and Celar alone were allegedly bought for a combined 6.5 million 😂 (if I don't laugh, I'll cry)

If we assume their current value is about £65 then the OP may have a point.

Moneyball on 08:36 - Nov 10 with 1405 views

Blue_Castello

Moneyball on 23:17 - Nov 9 by Kiko
Well Madsen and Celar alone were allegedly bought for a combined 6.5 million 😂 (if I don't laugh, I'll cry)

Look I know we all think they are crap and were in a desperate mess but when we were buying the players the figures talked about were between 1.5 to 2.5 so I don't think we've paid anywhere near that figure.......oh there still a waste of very limited resource money....

Moneyball on 08:53 - Nov 10 with 1330 views

Kiko

Moneyball on 08:36 - Nov 10 by Blue_Castello
Look I know we all think they are crap and were in a desperate mess but when we were buying the players the figures talked about were between 1.5 to 2.5 so I don't think we've paid anywhere near that figure.......oh there still a waste of very limited resource money....

I thought the figure floating about for Madsen was 3.5 - 4 million? That seems to be what everyone I spoke to seems to think (altho everything is kept so quiet who really knows)

Moneyball on 09:19 - Nov 10 with 1263 views

Watford_Ranger

Moneyball on 08:53 - Nov 10 by Kiko
I thought the figure floating about for Madsen was 3.5 - 4 million? That seems to be what everyone I spoke to seems to think (altho everything is kept so quiet who really knows)

I’d assume (pray) that half of that is performance-based. The bigger issue if we go down is these guys being on long contracts and wages at a level we can’t give them away.

Obviously he and Celar have started woefully. As bad as it’s been it is early days and I’m sure had this forum been around people would have written off various players who looked bad to start with and turned out to be good. Saying that I’ve seen nothing to suggest Madsen will turn it around so it’s hope rather than expectation. Celar still some hope but that’s waning quickly.

Moneyball on 09:30 - Nov 10 with 1204 views

Blue_Castello

Moneyball on 08:53 - Nov 10 by Kiko
I thought the figure floating about for Madsen was 3.5 - 4 million? That seems to be what everyone I spoke to seems to think (altho everything is kept so quiet who really knows)

Certainly didn't see those figures at all when we signed him, now people are guessing and probably inflating the transfer fee as they are hugely pissed off......

Agree with Watford the big problem may well be the length of contract and salary, let's face it he's never going to move on and at the moment Madsen looks like a downgrade on Dozzell and I would never have thought that was achievable with a decent budget and a half decent bit of scouting.

Moneyball on 09:47 - Nov 10 with 1151 views

Hunterhoop

Moneyball on 09:30 - Nov 10 by Blue_Castello

Obviously we don’t know how true this (yet, net player expenditure will come out in the accounts in time) but it was reported here.

https://the72.co.uk/2024/08/21/qpr-fee-nicolas-madsen-medical-next/

https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-qpr-madsen-signing

So, from this you’d deduce it is £2m up front rising to £3.2m.

Celar, I’m sure someone said was a net neutral deal with the Armstrong sale, net of the 25% going to Shamrock, so £1.88m if Armstrong went for £2.5 or £1.5m if he went for £2m. There were the two sales numbers quoted by the press.

Moneyball on 10:22 - Nov 10 with 1024 views

johnhoop

By contrast Celtic apparently picked up Matt O’Riley from MK Dons for £1.8 million.
Then transferred to Brighton for about £30 million and scored the winner against Man City yesterday.

Moneyball on 11:21 - Nov 10 with 857 views

SydneyRs

Moneyball on 10:22 - Nov 10 by johnhoop
By contrast Celtic apparently picked up Matt O’Riley from MK Dons for £1.8 million. Then transferred to Brighton for about £30 million and scored the winner against Man City yesterday.

Celtic have done this sort of thing very well in recent years. O'Riley is only the most recent example, Jota before him. Kuhn will be next and maybe Kyogo. But they have huge support, champions league money and not much domestic competition.

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