| Picton Monument in Carmarthen 18:18 - Dec 21 with 9454 views | britferry |
Well done to the people of Carmarthen
Monument to Waterloo hero will STAND: Memorial to slaver Thomas Picton who died in 1815 battle will not be removed or renamed after majority of locals vote to keep it amid BLM row
I didn't realise that he is the only Welshman buried in St Paul's Cathedral
More guts than those wishy-washy yellow bellied scummers
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:54 - Dec 23 with 990 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:51 - Dec 23 by 9MilesHigh |
Aye that would be it.
Lohengrin haha, can you get even more pretentious? You like this in the real world? |
Pretty much. You get the moniker is a Swan reference, do you? |  |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthenust be on 13:57 - Dec 23 with 965 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthenust be on 13:46 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Are you a history or holocaust denier then? |
What history are we talking about here? If it's the selective history you choose to sift out then eff that.
On your bike Felix. |  | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:59 - Dec 23 with 958 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 09:29 - Dec 23 by FieryJack |
That's interesting, and something I've not heard of before.
Bump into him occasionally and will pass it on. |
Fieryjack and Loh;
The welsh surnames of 10% of all African Americans has a high profile due to the likes of
Jesse Owens
Carl Lewis
Serena and Venus Williams
Marion Jones
Flo Griffiths-Joyner
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Lennox Lewis (canada)
Quincy Jones
Colin Powell
There are just too many to list.
Why would they all take the name of hated slave owners ?
Its much more likely that they shared faith with the welsh clergy. The welsh clergy ran many slaves to freedom in the north, risking their own lives.
Its likely the newly free slaves took these names through choice.
I do hope its true .... |  |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:09 - Dec 23 with 929 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:54 - Dec 23 by Lohengrin |
Pretty much. You get the moniker is a Swan reference, do you? |
You have as much interest in the Swans as I have in your adaptation of history. | | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:15 - Dec 23 with 924 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:09 - Dec 23 by 9MilesHigh |
You have as much interest in the Swans as I have in your adaptation of history. |
I’ve been following the Swans since 1976.
You? | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:17 - Dec 23 with 919 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:15 - Dec 23 by Lohengrin |
I’ve been following the Swans since 1976.
You? |
Much later, 1978/1979.
But actually following them. | | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:24 - Dec 23 with 912 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:17 - Dec 23 by 9MilesHigh |
Much later, 1978/1979.
But actually following them. |
That’s because you’re younger than me. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:24 - Dec 23 with 910 views | Highjack |
You lot always make me feel so young. |  |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:24 - Dec 23 with 911 views | onehunglow |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:17 - Dec 23 by 9MilesHigh |
Much later, 1978/1979.
But actually following them. |
You can all kick myarse a my forst game was 1958 when Hadyn and I were relative whipper snappers. We lost that game too 5-3 against Wolves .
Ive lived n many places and I have always had the bloody swans in my thoughts.
It's worse than being on crack cocaine.
Is it always pleasurable ?Nah.
Mostly it's not but it's something I will carry me through to my grave.
It's about what's in your heart. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:26 - Dec 23 with 910 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:24 - Dec 23 by Highjack |
You lot always make me feel so young. |
It will come to you soon enough.  | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:41 - Dec 23 with 890 views | FieryJack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:44 - Dec 23 by Lohengrin |
Filth being anything you disagree with? 
You need to get a bit of Paul Embery down you, set you on the right path. |
I struggle to take Embery seriously, wholly because he looks scarily like the ginger twin of that well-known Ulster psychopath, Jamie Dornan. 😳 |  | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:44 - Dec 23 with 889 views | britferry |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 12:07 - Dec 23 by 9MilesHigh |
Just did a little Googling on this and it seems this battle was more famous for the savagery of the British soldiers going on a barbaric rampage after the French surrendered.
20% to 30% of the civilians massacred, needlessly and for fun.
How anyone can celebrate Britain's past and laud evil like Picton and his kind is beyond me.
It seems the history some read is chosen very selectively. |
invading armies thru history have sacked a city once a siege has been broken, the more difficult the siege, the greater atrocities... thats why they would parley to get terms.
so its hardly Picton's fault
You ever heard of the bombing of Guernica during the Spanish civil war? It was a pretty insignificant village, after the Germans bombed it, no town resisted Franco's forces after that. But I expect that was Picton's fault too [Post edited 23 Dec 2020 14:45]
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:47 - Dec 23 with 883 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:41 - Dec 23 by FieryJack |
I struggle to take Embery seriously, wholly because he looks scarily like the ginger twin of that well-known Ulster psychopath, Jamie Dornan. 😳 |
I think he’d dine out for weeks on that comparison. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:55 - Dec 23 with 869 views | Highjack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:41 - Dec 23 by FieryJack |
I struggle to take Embery seriously, wholly because he looks scarily like the ginger twin of that well-known Ulster psychopath, Jamie Dornan. 😳 |
He reminds me more of that bloke out of that comedy double act “Meghan and Harry.” | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 15:52 - Dec 23 with 840 views | controversial_jack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:44 - Dec 23 by britferry |
invading armies thru history have sacked a city once a siege has been broken, the more difficult the siege, the greater atrocities... thats why they would parley to get terms.
so its hardly Picton's fault
You ever heard of the bombing of Guernica during the Spanish civil war? It was a pretty insignificant village, after the Germans bombed it, no town resisted Franco's forces after that. But I expect that was Picton's fault too [Post edited 23 Dec 2020 14:45]
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Many of those answered for their crimes later at Nuremberg, Picton didn't. He's been found guilty in his absence | | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 16:45 - Dec 23 with 813 views | Boundy |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 15:52 - Dec 23 by controversial_jack |
Many of those answered for their crimes later at Nuremberg, Picton didn't. He's been found guilty in his absence |
I must have forgotten his second trial, when was that exactly ? | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 17:02 - Dec 23 with 804 views | Highjack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 16:45 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
I must have forgotten his second trial, when was that exactly ? |
Trial by twitter. It’s the modern progressive way. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 17:02 - Dec 23 with 804 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 16:45 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
I must have forgotten his second trial, when was that exactly ? |
I think he may mean on here, where all the big questions are weighed. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 17:36 - Dec 23 with 787 views | Catullus |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 14:24 - Dec 23 by Highjack |
You lot always make me feel so young. |
Oh bugger! I've been going to the Swans since the 72/73 season. I feel old now. I barely even remember anything about the games apart fro always being bored and wanting to go home by half time....and there being plenty of room on the West terrace. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 17:38 - Dec 23 with 788 views | controversial_jack |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 16:45 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
I must have forgotten his second trial, when was that exactly ? |
You weren't born | | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:02 - Dec 23 with 762 views | Catullus |
When was it then? | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:09 - Dec 23 with 761 views | Humpty |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 13:30 - Dec 23 by FieryJack |
Regularly listen to that podcast on the way to and from work.
Terrific archive. Plenty to chew over.
Have to say, though, that Bragg, as he gets older, has become increasingly and intolerably tetchy, rude and arrogant towards his panel of experts, and slathers mate-ily over some (probably pals from his Mayfair club) whilst dismissively interrupting others.
Beginning to remind me of Robin Day 😱 |
They're superb fair play. And as you say, plenty of them.
Another I would recommend is the Witness History archive, all 3000 of them near enough. |  | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:13 - Dec 23 with 759 views | Humpty |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 22:25 - Dec 22 by Highjack |
Hang on a gosh darn rootin tootin moment. She’s been calling me all sorts of things for God knows how many years and nobody says a thing. I give a little bit back just once with a mild Michael Winner quote and I’m the bad guy? Do you think she’s let herself down by saying “Dear God you’re stupid”? It should be obvious to anybody that I’m not literally comparing much loved cheeky chappies Morcambe and Wise to a historical slave trader. Anybody who can’t see that it’s intended as an irreverent throw away remark to lighten the mood must be...well... stupid. |
I doubt very much Lisa gives a toss that you "gave a little back".
Shame you have to resort to misogynistic comments though. | | | |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:23 - Dec 23 with 745 views | onehunglow |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:13 - Dec 23 by Humpty |
I doubt very much Lisa gives a toss that you "gave a little back".
Shame you have to resort to misogynistic comments though. |
And Lisa has not been backward at coming forward with some feisty stuff herself.
It was done in more articulate fashion but the sentiments the same.
She is one to "protect ". I wish her vast accountancy knowledge had been put to more direct use at the club and maybe we wouldnt have suffered the demise we did.
We had experts at everything yet every one kept their money on their pockets whereas at least jenkins and dineen put their own money in and then got lucky . It is why and only why action is being considered against them.Naked envy and it's sickening.
We .ideally need to be sold and the Trust /Owners become a mere memory. Ideally. | |
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| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:28 - Dec 23 with 742 views | Lohengrin |
| Picton Monument in Carmarthen on 18:09 - Dec 23 by Humpty |
They're superb fair play. And as you say, plenty of them.
Another I would recommend is the Witness History archive, all 3000 of them near enough. |
Check out the IWM’s ‘Voices’ series, Hump. There’s some superb stuff on there. | |
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