| Jack Cork on 20:00 - Jan 29 with 2994 views | pencoedjack |
| Jack Cork on 19:54 - Jan 29 by football2301 |
not a cast off but he's struggled to get in their side of late he's no better than we got |
He has struggled to get into their side all season only 6 appearances, but as I said what I've see I like.
Just cant go over the top about a player who cant get into a side I think we should be competing with. |  | |  |
| Jack Cork on 20:06 - Jan 29 with 2938 views | blaine_scfc |
| Jack Cork on 20:00 - Jan 29 by pencoedjack |
He has struggled to get into their side all season only 6 appearances, but as I said what I've see I like.
Just cant go over the top about a player who cant get into a side I think we should be competing with. |
Am I right in saying he has never been a regular with Southampton since they got into premier league? I don't know much about him, but we seem to be always linked with him so I would hope he has something about him. Fingers crossed he comes good but I agree with Penc, struggle to get excited with this one. |  | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:07 - Jan 29 with 2919 views | everytimeref |
| Jack Cork on 19:19 - Jan 29 by karnataka |
This is great news if true, he may not be a world beater (yet), but it's one hell of a step in the right direction for us for the remainder of the season. We could have a Ki-Cork-Siggi trio in midfield for the Sunderland game which definitely be an improvement on recent weeks. |
Except that Siggi is suspended for 3 games |  | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:09 - Jan 29 with 2893 views | Whiterockin |
| Jack Cork on 19:54 - Jan 29 by football2301 |
not a cast off but he's struggled to get in their side of late he's no better than we got |
I would swap him for JJS any time. Only KI and Siggy I would rate as better and Leon if he can regain his form. Carroll could go on to be better but not at the moment.
For me he would be in a starting three. Like it or not Southhampton have a better squad and manager than us, that is why they are where they are. |  | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:10 - Jan 29 with 2883 views | BLAZE |
His limited game time may be to do with the breakdown of contract talks? Two arguments - either play him and put him in the shop window so you can make as much as possible, even if it's gonna be reduced due to the short contract length, or leave him on the bench and develop the players committed to sticking around. Didn't we do similar with a player once? Pratley maybe? |  | | |
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| Jack Cork on 20:17 - Jan 29 with 2802 views | Whiterockin |
| Jack Cork on 20:15 - Jan 29 by football2301 |
what drugs you on il get some |
The way you play you are on them already. | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:18 - Jan 29 with 2798 views | BLAZE |
Don't do that you'll be suspended again if you get tested | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:18 - Jan 29 with 2793 views | football2301 |
| Jack Cork on 20:17 - Jan 29 by Whiterockin |
The way you play you are on them already. |
another prck theres quite a few of you on here | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:26 - Jan 29 with 2700 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Jack Cork on 19:54 - Jan 29 by football2301 |
not a cast off but he's struggled to get in their side of late he's no better than we got |
He's different to what we have though. Not better. Not worse. Different.
he is a specialist DM and I would say that we don't have one at the moment (other than Leon). I don't believe it to be Ki's best position (though he is the best we have there which is different). Certainly believe JJs is better more advanced. | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:26 - Jan 29 with 2696 views | pencoedjack |
Funny enough Tom went over for a nose myself
Didn't realise they had a few out Sunday (from the Saints/Swansea thread)
'ugh, with Long, Mane, Wanyama, Schneiderlin, and Alderweireld all unavailable'
They still seem pretty confident (arrogant) lot. | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:28 - Jan 29 with 2684 views | football2301 |
| Jack Cork on 20:26 - Jan 29 by londonlisa2001 |
He's different to what we have though. Not better. Not worse. Different.
he is a specialist DM and I would say that we don't have one at the moment (other than Leon). I don't believe it to be Ki's best position (though he is the best we have there which is different). Certainly believe JJs is better more advanced. |
i agree i didn't say he was worse than what we got and he is more defensive minded than what we got which will help | | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:30 - Jan 29 with 2652 views | phact0rri |
I might be wrong here and just reading between the lines but it felt like he was having a bit of a grumble with the management this season. as last season he had 33 appearances. I blame Koeman |  |
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| Jack Cork on 20:47 - Jan 29 with 2509 views | AJ101 |
| Jack Cork on 19:54 - Jan 29 by football2301 |
not a cast off but he's struggled to get in their side of late he's no better than we got |
I think you're missing the fact that Southampton are extremely strong in defensive midfield two of their top five players including their best player are defensive midfielders whereas Swansea are relying on a player many(most?) think is coming to the end of his career and have no real back up there.
Think of Mata to United or Welbeck to Arsenal some teams just get very strong in one position and can't find a spot for a player who's more talented than others in the team but not those he's directly competing for a spot. |  | | |
| Jack Cork on 20:47 - Jan 29 with 2508 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Jack Cork on 20:30 - Jan 29 by phact0rri |
I might be wrong here and just reading between the lines but it felt like he was having a bit of a grumble with the management this season. as last season he had 33 appearances. I blame Koeman |
koeman bring his own players in and the regulars get dropped for his signings, it happens at every club. |  |
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| Jack Cork on 21:20 - Jan 29 with 2307 views | Davillin |
| Jack Cork on 19:26 - Jan 29 by Oldjack |
Only a medical left to go now ,so i'm led to believe
If you got a hole in midfield put a cork in it [Post edited 29 Jan 2015 19:30]
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Groan.
[But true.] |  |
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| Jack Cork on 21:22 - Jan 29 with 2289 views | max936 |
| Jack Cork on 20:47 - Jan 29 by AJ101 |
I think you're missing the fact that Southampton are extremely strong in defensive midfield two of their top five players including their best player are defensive midfielders whereas Swansea are relying on a player many(most?) think is coming to the end of his career and have no real back up there.
Think of Mata to United or Welbeck to Arsenal some teams just get very strong in one position and can't find a spot for a player who's more talented than others in the team but not those he's directly competing for a spot. |
Great post. |  |
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| Jack Cork on 21:28 - Jan 29 with 2232 views | jacksinceever |
| Jack Cork on 20:47 - Jan 29 by AJ101 |
I think you're missing the fact that Southampton are extremely strong in defensive midfield two of their top five players including their best player are defensive midfielders whereas Swansea are relying on a player many(most?) think is coming to the end of his career and have no real back up there.
Think of Mata to United or Welbeck to Arsenal some teams just get very strong in one position and can't find a spot for a player who's more talented than others in the team but not those he's directly competing for a spot. |
I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
Southampton seem to be heading for a top four finish.
Not to be able to hold down a regular place in their team is no great shame.
If we were signing a similarly dislodged player from a more established side (Chelsea, Man U, Man City etc) then we'd be over the moon.
It's not like we're signing him from QPR or Leicester say, and he wasn't deemed good enough to get in their side. |  | | |
| Jack Cork on 21:54 - Jan 29 with 2055 views | pencoedjack |
| Jack Cork on 21:28 - Jan 29 by jacksinceever |
I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
Southampton seem to be heading for a top four finish.
Not to be able to hold down a regular place in their team is no great shame.
If we were signing a similarly dislodged player from a more established side (Chelsea, Man U, Man City etc) then we'd be over the moon.
It's not like we're signing him from QPR or Leicester say, and he wasn't deemed good enough to get in their side. |
With that in mind and the fact that many tipped Southampton to struggle this season .... Has Koeman done a far better job than Garry in the transfer market or is it down to their acamedy ? ( I'm not anti monk btw) | | | |
| Jack Cork on 22:02 - Jan 29 with 1995 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jack Cork on 21:54 - Jan 29 by pencoedjack |
With that in mind and the fact that many tipped Southampton to struggle this season .... Has Koeman done a far better job than Garry in the transfer market or is it down to their acamedy ? ( I'm not anti monk btw) |
Koeman's greater experience has undoubtedly been a benefit, but they've also sold four players for massive sums and reinvested that in five or six new acquisitions that have given them much greater strength in depth.
They're a lesson to us in how to get top dollar for your best players. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jack Cork on 22:05 - Jan 29 with 1969 views | ItchySphincter |
| Jack Cork on 22:02 - Jan 29 by Dr_Winston |
Koeman's greater experience has undoubtedly been a benefit, but they've also sold four players for massive sums and reinvested that in five or six new acquisitions that have given them much greater strength in depth.
They're a lesson to us in how to get top dollar for your best players. |
They'll be in the sh!t though when Koeman walks for a big job. They're not that different to us. |  |
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| Jack Cork on 22:06 - Jan 29 with 1963 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jack Cork on 22:05 - Jan 29 by ItchySphincter |
They'll be in the sh!t though when Koeman walks for a big job. They're not that different to us. |
Depends how they replace him. They've got a pretty good record when it comes to appointing managers too. [Post edited 29 Jan 2015 22:06]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jack Cork on 22:12 - Jan 29 with 1905 views | monmouth |
| Jack Cork on 22:05 - Jan 29 by ItchySphincter |
They'll be in the sh!t though when Koeman walks for a big job. They're not that different to us. |
That's what they said when Fatchopstino left along with all their 'best' players, so I wouldn't be so sure. They have a good base and what we should, imo, be aspiring to. Production line of talent and sound decisions in and out. You could argue (I'm not sure I would, but I might) that they took our mantle whilst we were asleep at the wheel basking in league cup glory. Certainly I think we are playing catch up now.....taking one of their reserves tends to indicate that too...
Still a good addition where we need strengthening though. |  |
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