| Ji Sun Park 20:25 - Jan 12 with 4965 views | essextaxiboy |
Maybe I am missing something but I thought he was awful . I never give a player stick at the game but I came close today .
He runs around closing people down but arriving just too late to prevent them passing or to put a foot in .
When he gets the ball he doesnt look to create anything, he doesnt make runs past Adel and doesnt seem to read the game at all .
I realise Harry needs to look at everyone but this bloke is the only one who is still playing with a Hughes type of commitment.
Am I missing some quality that he has which we need in our fight for survival ? |  | | |  |
| Ji Sun Park on 23:31 - Jan 12 with 1078 views | Pilky |
I'm going to stick my neck out here. I still have faith in this player. I thought he had a decent enough first half today. Broke up some plays, made a couple of nice passes. Admittedly he bottled some tackles, but considering he's just back from injury I can somehow understand that. Should provide more attacking wise I agree. But I feel Park is now getting the same kind of treatment that crazy JB got. They both read the game well, and during the course of the game continuously cover and protect areas that needs protecting. Underated qualities for sure. He's only played like ten games for us. Stick with him and he'll come good for us.  |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 23:41 - Jan 12 with 1065 views | Lblock |
Ji "seven days" Park is it?
He maintained his form for us today for sure.
People will say he covered a lot of ground and I see people saying we shouldn't dig out individuals and is all about the team
In my opinion the ground he covered was totally non effective and he let his team mates down today causing them to have to work even harder
He's a player who sums up Hughes' reign
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| Ji Sun Park on 01:08 - Jan 13 with 1015 views | INFIRMARY |
That was Park ? I thought Harry gave a fan a chance to play ! |  |
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| Ji Sun Park on 01:55 - Jan 13 with 998 views | ingeminate |
| Ji Sun Park on 23:24 - Jan 12 by gobbles |
That was Park's first league start since October. Why not cut him some slack? |
Agree with a lot of what you are saying on this thread, trouble is aside from anything else he symbolises a lot of what has gone wrong at HQ this season in terms of marquee over the hill big wage flops, but he was not as bad second half and the amount of abuse he took first game back after a bad injury was daft. |  |
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| Ji Sun Park on 02:04 - Jan 13 with 992 views | CanadaRanger |
Park wasn't making tackles to win the ball that other players were. And yes, he was often late to the play. Coming off of an injury... However, I saw he was taking away their passing chances by covering the lane to the man inside, which forced them to go wider. They still kept possession, but at least they didn't get as much space to work with in the rectangle from the front of the penalty box to the half-way line... |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 09:44 - Jan 13 with 946 views | paulparker |
| Ji Sun Park on 23:15 - Jan 12 by gobbles |
Yeah Faurlin has been magic of late. Were you at Southampton? Or West Brom? Or West Ham? Faurlin used to be 3 times the player Faurlin is now. |
Agree that Ali has had bad games but I was also there for
Swansea,Norwich, Chelsea & park was awful in those
He offers nothing going forward,nothing defending
No creativity, the bloke is here pure and simple for the Asian Market
Yesterday he was running around like a headless chicken
Lost count the amount of times he got in mbia or Derrys way
Icing on the cake for me was when Scott Parker who ain't match fit
Burst through the centre and park was running away from him
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| Ji Sun Park on 09:54 - Jan 13 with 934 views | highlandbill |
| Ji Sun Park on 21:46 - Jan 12 by gobbles |
So you believe Redknapp picked him for the benefit of Korean television? |
wouldnt surprise me. On the way home at Oxford Circus tube I spotted an oriental woman & 2 kids with QPR scarfs. I asked them if they were Korean which they confirmed but were unable to make any comment about the game as it seemed to me they had gone to the match in the same way as you would go to Buckingham Palace or the BIG Wheel, if you were a tourist. A friend who has been on holiday out East says that the Prem is "massive" in all countries out that way.
Was it my imagination or did one of Fernades planes fly over the ground during the match. What next? Koreans parachuting onto the turf during a match? |  |
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| Ji Sun Park on 10:04 - Jan 13 with 919 views | collegeranger |
| Ji Sun Park on 09:54 - Jan 13 by highlandbill |
wouldnt surprise me. On the way home at Oxford Circus tube I spotted an oriental woman & 2 kids with QPR scarfs. I asked them if they were Korean which they confirmed but were unable to make any comment about the game as it seemed to me they had gone to the match in the same way as you would go to Buckingham Palace or the BIG Wheel, if you were a tourist. A friend who has been on holiday out East says that the Prem is "massive" in all countries out that way.
Was it my imagination or did one of Fernades planes fly over the ground during the match. What next? Koreans parachuting onto the turf during a match? |
Air Asia don't fly to the UK.
Will everyone please get over the tourist thing. If we stay up and the new stadium come off we need "tourists" to fill it - that would help revenues to compete in the the Prem. Its a fact of life.
ManUre replaced Park with the Japanese player not for his footballing ability but to fill the hole Park left and to make sure the Asian Satellite/Cable providers request ManUre games and pay millions for the priviledge. The same applies to us and when we sign the next Korean/Japanese/Malaysian/Indonesian wonderkid it will be partly ability and partly marketing! |  | | |
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| Ji Sun Park on 10:05 - Jan 13 with 917 views | hoof_hearted |
| Ji Sun Park on 09:54 - Jan 13 by highlandbill |
wouldnt surprise me. On the way home at Oxford Circus tube I spotted an oriental woman & 2 kids with QPR scarfs. I asked them if they were Korean which they confirmed but were unable to make any comment about the game as it seemed to me they had gone to the match in the same way as you would go to Buckingham Palace or the BIG Wheel, if you were a tourist. A friend who has been on holiday out East says that the Prem is "massive" in all countries out that way.
Was it my imagination or did one of Fernades planes fly over the ground during the match. What next? Koreans parachuting onto the turf during a match? |
What? We're on the flight path is why his plane may have flown over (along with 100 others). You can't just zoom over London for publicity.
Park is not ever in the team to sell shirts. The cost of relegation v the profit in a thousand shirts (we don't make money from far east knock offs that they may buy in Korea).
Next match just watch him for a 10 minute spell non-stop and see how many touches he has, how many easy passes he blocks by being in the way and forcing them back or sideways. Watch the simple passes he makes to find the only creative player we have. He played Taraabt in to find SWP for his chances.
He can do better but compared to the goals Granero has given away by not chasing back he has to play. |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 10:10 - Jan 13 with 910 views | chris1969 |
Thought he was terrible yesterday but can we stop the 'only played for the asian market' comments. He was picked in a defensive midfield and Harry gave him 90 minutes for his work rate, not because he thought we could shift a few shirts. I thought he improved as the game went on but it was a 4/10 performance at best.
Park has been a major disappointment and looks woefully short on his fitness level, but lets not write him off completely. IMO Faurlin should of replaced him in the 2nd half but he didn't, hopefully Harry will give Ale a chance but it doesn't look like he fits into current plans.
Boo Boy top 5
1. Park (+2)
2. Ferdinand (-)
3. SWP (-2)
4. Green (-)
5. Bosingwa (-)
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| Ji Sun Park on 10:12 - Jan 13 with 907 views | highlandbill |
| Ji Sun Park on 10:04 - Jan 13 by collegeranger |
Air Asia don't fly to the UK.
Will everyone please get over the tourist thing. If we stay up and the new stadium come off we need "tourists" to fill it - that would help revenues to compete in the the Prem. Its a fact of life.
ManUre replaced Park with the Japanese player not for his footballing ability but to fill the hole Park left and to make sure the Asian Satellite/Cable providers request ManUre games and pay millions for the priviledge. The same applies to us and when we sign the next Korean/Japanese/Malaysian/Indonesian wonderkid it will be partly ability and partly marketing! |
The plane thing was a joke.I agree about marketing.maybe if Barton continues to do well we might get French tourists coming to see his "home" club? | |
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| Ji Sun Park on 10:16 - Jan 13 with 902 views | Lblock |
| Ji Sun Park on 10:10 - Jan 13 by chris1969 |
Thought he was terrible yesterday but can we stop the 'only played for the asian market' comments. He was picked in a defensive midfield and Harry gave him 90 minutes for his work rate, not because he thought we could shift a few shirts. I thought he improved as the game went on but it was a 4/10 performance at best.
Park has been a major disappointment and looks woefully short on his fitness level, but lets not write him off completely. IMO Faurlin should of replaced him in the 2nd half but he didn't, hopefully Harry will give Ale a chance but it doesn't look like he fits into current plans.
Boo Boy top 5
1. Park (+2)
2. Ferdinand (-)
3. SWP (-2)
4. Green (-)
5. Bosingwa (-)
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Think you have that list upside down
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| Ji Sun Park on 11:30 - Jan 13 with 867 views | Amancalledhorse |
During the game yesterday, I felt he was the one player who was missing; not part of the team; out on his own and contributing very little. For me, while watching the game, I felt that he wasn't reading second play very well and reading the game as he should. I was reminded of why I am so disappointed with his overall contribution since joining us.
When I got home, I watched a full recording of the game and changed my mind. It made me think what his instructions are because he didn't necessarily get stuck in, but appeared to run the centre line and simply distribute to those who offer more attacking options. I also felt that he was instructed to track Sandro and then Parker, and limit their distribution; Keep them at bay and from getting into threatening positions. With the overall team performance, from the back, focused on being hard to beat, maybe he did do a decent job and followed out his instructions.
His contribution to our squad is curious, but then so too is Granero's. Two of the most high profile signings during the summer! T'would be good to have an insight into what the instructions are to players like this. What is their role?
If you measure them against the likes of Faurlin, I suspect his role would be similar, but we do see him getting stuck in to tackles and going for the second play! But does Faurlin and his contribution sometimes leave us vulnerable? I can't make up my mind, but certainly yesterday while watching the game, I found Park to be very frustrating.
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| Ji Sun Park on 11:35 - Jan 13 with 856 views | Neil_SI |
Yeah he was our weakest player in terms of performance on the day, but he certainly did not deserve the sarcastic jeers and cheers he received whenever he did something well, which was pretty stupid in the end because that must have hit ten or twelve by the time the match was over and proves he did plenty of things right, or okay.
He's clearly not as sharp as he needs to be, so he actually needs the ninety minutes to see if he can find any sort of level or sharpness. That's the question, can he? Is this because he's still behind in terms of fitness levels? Only then will they know if he still has anything meaningful to offer. He can read the game, but right now his body isn't letting him connect that into application.
It does not help the side when they're playing against a good team, and putting in a committed and disciplined performance to get a result and hear fans picking on one individual, who was still part of that.
I hope he gets a decent run out on Tuesday night against West Brom to top up his fitness some more, because that will only help him and us in the long run, be it, finding out whether this is just because he's played so little over recent months, or confirming when he does reach the optimum levels, whether his legs are really gone and he can't offer much more to the team.
I still think we might see him end up in a wide position, depending on who we sign. |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 11:43 - Jan 13 with 839 views | Hayesender |
Just watching the game back, and in the 33rd minute the ref actually beats Park for pace.
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| Ji Sun Park on 11:54 - Jan 13 with 793 views | daveB |
It' a shame about Park as the fella is trying but his legs look like they have gone and where he was always first toa 50/50 even a year ago he is not making them anymore. I'd have got Faurlin on for him yesterday as he was struggling badly in the second half. We were lucky Sandro went off as he was walking past him in the first half |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 12:06 - Jan 13 with 775 views | Jamie |
| Ji Sun Park on 11:35 - Jan 13 by Neil_SI |
Yeah he was our weakest player in terms of performance on the day, but he certainly did not deserve the sarcastic jeers and cheers he received whenever he did something well, which was pretty stupid in the end because that must have hit ten or twelve by the time the match was over and proves he did plenty of things right, or okay.
He's clearly not as sharp as he needs to be, so he actually needs the ninety minutes to see if he can find any sort of level or sharpness. That's the question, can he? Is this because he's still behind in terms of fitness levels? Only then will they know if he still has anything meaningful to offer. He can read the game, but right now his body isn't letting him connect that into application.
It does not help the side when they're playing against a good team, and putting in a committed and disciplined performance to get a result and hear fans picking on one individual, who was still part of that.
I hope he gets a decent run out on Tuesday night against West Brom to top up his fitness some more, because that will only help him and us in the long run, be it, finding out whether this is just because he's played so little over recent months, or confirming when he does reach the optimum levels, whether his legs are really gone and he can't offer much more to the team.
I still think we might see him end up in a wide position, depending on who we sign. |
Ferguson had him for 6 years, watched him in training every day and decided this summer that he had nothing more to offer them. The team who play a 37 & 39 year old in midfield.
As said before, when the legs start to go, the top players fall back on their underlying ability to modify their game. Park has no underlying ability. He had a phenomenal, superhuman engine coupled with an exemplary work rate. The work rate is still there and at no point has he ever given the impression that he is giving less than 100%. Unfortunately with the engine now expired he is a second behind the play at all times. Whereas a year or two he was in everyone's face, harrying, rushing, frustrating opponents, he is now having to stand a yard off his man and simply try and position himself to limit his opponents options and is being bypassed.
The real damage this season has been him offensively. So many times this season when we have tried to play some slick passing football the moves have broken down when Park has failed to read or react quickly enough and lost possession or stifled the attack by having to rush and out ball backwards.
When you have Carrick & Fletcher alongside you and Rooney ahead of you, your deficiencies tend to be masked somewhat more than when playing alongside Derry, SWP & Mackie. | | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 12:34 - Jan 13 with 747 views | Neil_SI |
| Ji Sun Park on 12:06 - Jan 13 by Jamie |
Ferguson had him for 6 years, watched him in training every day and decided this summer that he had nothing more to offer them. The team who play a 37 & 39 year old in midfield.
As said before, when the legs start to go, the top players fall back on their underlying ability to modify their game. Park has no underlying ability. He had a phenomenal, superhuman engine coupled with an exemplary work rate. The work rate is still there and at no point has he ever given the impression that he is giving less than 100%. Unfortunately with the engine now expired he is a second behind the play at all times. Whereas a year or two he was in everyone's face, harrying, rushing, frustrating opponents, he is now having to stand a yard off his man and simply try and position himself to limit his opponents options and is being bypassed.
The real damage this season has been him offensively. So many times this season when we have tried to play some slick passing football the moves have broken down when Park has failed to read or react quickly enough and lost possession or stifled the attack by having to rush and out ball backwards.
When you have Carrick & Fletcher alongside you and Rooney ahead of you, your deficiencies tend to be masked somewhat more than when playing alongside Derry, SWP & Mackie. |
That part is a lack of due diligence by the club and wasn't unexpected from my point of view. But he has the experience to adapt his game and adaption doesn't happen overnight, no matter how good you are. His versatility as a player should mean he has a better chance than most, if he really wants to and therefore it's also a question of the individuals appetite and acceptance of having to do that.
I had mentioned in a previous thread about how Ferguson decides to move players on, he works on the theory if the player isn't going to be the same in two season's time and detects a change in them, no matter how great they've been for him, he's willing to let them move on.
That doesn't make them terrible players all of a sudden, it just means he feels they are in a decline and not at the level required for Manchester United. The board and Mark Hughes and co saw this as a big name marquee signing though, and obviously had a huge commercial bearing in the eyes of the board.
The problem for us is that he's just not been fit enough yet. He picked up that knee injury early on and has barely had a run of games under his belt. Every player needs that rhythm and continuity to find their feet and peak level of fitness. He's been no where near that, and even if there was nothing wrong with his legs at all, it's going to mean you're not sharp enough to give your best.
Until he's sharp enough to give his best (whatever that best may be) you can't really tell one way or another what he's got left to offer. Certainly he's not got what is required when he's not 100% in his current condition and form.
The tell tale sign of that is the amount of times he loses his footing or slips, because that's the hallmark of a player who is not fit, rather than past it.
Tactically I thought yesterday's performance the team were under instruction not to press and harry opponents until in certain areas of the pitch, and that led to a little bit of hesitancy in one or two at times on whether to chase or stick.
It was a decent and disciplined tactical performance from the team, denying space in the pockets that Spurs like to play in and on the flip side of that, sometimes you have to accept that good teams pass and move the ball well, and are going to cause you some problems. | | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 13:06 - Jan 13 with 730 views | Mattnme |
I didn't think he was that good at manu and having seen with the R's I think my initial thoughts were right. He had the odd moment yesterday as he has in other games but the thing is you notice these more because they're things he should be doing anyway.
The R's were always likely to have an extra man in the middle because of the 2 teams formations. For the R's it appeared park was that man. At least that's what I'm presuming. There were many occassions when he was standing there with no-one around yet not one single creative pass. I can't help thinking Faurlin would've made a more possitive impact.
I can't think of one real stand out moment let alone game he has had for the R's. He has always looked off the pace and lightweight with no real football brain to compensate for his deficencies. |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 13:18 - Jan 13 with 717 views | WestonsuperR |
I didn't think Park was as bad as some many comments on here, first thing I look for is effort and didn't think you could fault that.
I've been as massive critic of SWP, much better performance yesterday but still dreadful finishing, embarrassingly bad. |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 13:18 - Jan 13 with 716 views | PhilmyRs |
| Ji Sun Park on 12:06 - Jan 13 by Jamie |
Ferguson had him for 6 years, watched him in training every day and decided this summer that he had nothing more to offer them. The team who play a 37 & 39 year old in midfield.
As said before, when the legs start to go, the top players fall back on their underlying ability to modify their game. Park has no underlying ability. He had a phenomenal, superhuman engine coupled with an exemplary work rate. The work rate is still there and at no point has he ever given the impression that he is giving less than 100%. Unfortunately with the engine now expired he is a second behind the play at all times. Whereas a year or two he was in everyone's face, harrying, rushing, frustrating opponents, he is now having to stand a yard off his man and simply try and position himself to limit his opponents options and is being bypassed.
The real damage this season has been him offensively. So many times this season when we have tried to play some slick passing football the moves have broken down when Park has failed to read or react quickly enough and lost possession or stifled the attack by having to rush and out ball backwards.
When you have Carrick & Fletcher alongside you and Rooney ahead of you, your deficiencies tend to be masked somewhat more than when playing alongside Derry, SWP & Mackie. |
I agree with a lot of that. Hope he proves me wrong and recovers those fitness levels, but I fear its terminal | | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 13:20 - Jan 13 with 715 views | Monahoop |
| Ji Sun Park on 13:06 - Jan 13 by Mattnme |
I didn't think he was that good at manu and having seen with the R's I think my initial thoughts were right. He had the odd moment yesterday as he has in other games but the thing is you notice these more because they're things he should be doing anyway.
The R's were always likely to have an extra man in the middle because of the 2 teams formations. For the R's it appeared park was that man. At least that's what I'm presuming. There were many occassions when he was standing there with no-one around yet not one single creative pass. I can't help thinking Faurlin would've made a more possitive impact.
I can't think of one real stand out moment let alone game he has had for the R's. He has always looked off the pace and lightweight with no real football brain to compensate for his deficencies. |
Agree.
I would say from what I've seen from him so far this term, that was his best showing in a hooped shirt yesterday, only because he stayed on his two feet for a change throughout much of the game. Otherwise he was the weak link in the squad.
Never really rated him anyway. Put in the odd good shift for Man Utd 2nds and his national side. Nothing to get excited about really and it shows. |  |
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| Ji Sun Park on 16:59 - Jan 13 with 662 views | WilloW4 |
Harry says after the Tottenham game that ALL the players put a shift in, all worked really hard for the point blah blah blah. I'm not a fan of Fabio's or Mbia or Onohua, but I thought the three of them played well. But a massive question mark must be asked of Ji Sung Park. I have not seen him play a good 5 minutes for Rangers. He's just there as a publicity gimmick for Asia - just nonsense - too lightweight, easy money - get rid. |  | | |
| Ji Sun Park on 18:16 - Jan 13 with 629 views | TacticalR |
Perhaps because I've seen him have a lot of bad games, I didn't think he was that bad yesterday, although I was apprehensive when I saw his name on the team sheet.
Yes, he slipped and looked off balance, but not as badly as some previous matches.
I think the main problem is that he is not a creative player, and the more decision-making he has to do, the more lost he looks. I think he prefers to keep things ultra simple and just do the obvious. Because the team were in defensive mode, I thought he seemed more clear about what his role was. |  |
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| Ji Sun Park on 18:17 - Jan 14 with 577 views | R_from_afar |
| Ji Sun Park on 10:04 - Jan 13 by collegeranger |
Air Asia don't fly to the UK.
Will everyone please get over the tourist thing. If we stay up and the new stadium come off we need "tourists" to fill it - that would help revenues to compete in the the Prem. Its a fact of life.
ManUre replaced Park with the Japanese player not for his footballing ability but to fill the hole Park left and to make sure the Asian Satellite/Cable providers request ManUre games and pay millions for the priviledge. The same applies to us and when we sign the next Korean/Japanese/Malaysian/Indonesian wonderkid it will be partly ability and partly marketing! |
Spot on about the tourist thing. Without them, moving to a bigger stadium will mean we'll all be paying even more for our tickets, plus the place will be half empty.
I thought he was poor yesterday but that may be down to the impact of the injury. I do feel confident that if he doesn't improve, HR will just drop him. He isn't Harry's player.
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