| John Terry goes on trial this Monday 02:39 - Jul 8 with 57488 views | DylanP |
Terry's trial to start on Monday. Yet another thing to look forward to, Sadly, apparently the maximum he can get is a small fine. However, the humiliation will be a laugh.
Football fans found guilty of racism can be banned from going to football grounds for a while. Wouldn't it be funny if Terry received a football ground ban!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2170238/John-Terry-trial-Anton |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 18:30 - Jul 13 with 1596 views | CHUBBS |
Fck em all,we gave them all the points back last season anyhow!!! |  | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 18:59 - Jul 13 with 1561 views | Northernr |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 18:05 - Jul 13 by hoopstilidie |
I see. So we gained a sporting advantage when we finished 13th but when we won the league we were all above board?
Oddest sporting advantage ever I'd say.
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Come on Tony FFS. According to the committee we gained a sporting advantage for the length of time we played Faurlin while the third party ownership was still in place - 15 months from the day he signed which took us through to November of the promotion season. Read the report.
Having found that we did that we were lucky not to be deducted points because, like I say, you'll struggle to find an example of a club being found guilty of illegally gaining a sporting advantage and not being docked points. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 19:16 - Jul 13 with 1528 views | ballbag |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 18:59 - Jul 13 by Northernr |
Come on Tony FFS. According to the committee we gained a sporting advantage for the length of time we played Faurlin while the third party ownership was still in place - 15 months from the day he signed which took us through to November of the promotion season. Read the report.
Having found that we did that we were lucky not to be deducted points because, like I say, you'll struggle to find an example of a club being found guilty of illegally gaining a sporting advantage and not being docked points. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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I hope the white fcking cnt dies. |  | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 00:28 - Jul 14 with 1382 views | michael67 |
How can an alleged respectable newspaper be allowed to use the word c++t so often in a news article so often? This is read by the wider range public. I mean, we couldn't use it on a normal MB like this? |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 00:52 - Jul 14 with 1376 views | eastside_r |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 00:28 - Jul 14 by michael67 |
How can an alleged respectable newspaper be allowed to use the word c++t so often in a news article so often? This is read by the wider range public. I mean, we couldn't use it on a normal MB like this? |
Because the the Guardian believes in freedom of speech and treats its readership as intelligent human beings, perhaps?
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 03:23 - Jul 14 with 1339 views | CanadaRanger |
Clearly justice is blind to colour.
Didn't the Judge know that John Terry isn't black?
Therefore how could Terry have been repeating the something allegedly aimed at him... |  | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 07:19 - Jul 14 with 1312 views | hoopstilidie |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 18:59 - Jul 13 by Northernr |
Come on Tony FFS. According to the committee we gained a sporting advantage for the length of time we played Faurlin while the third party ownership was still in place - 15 months from the day he signed which took us through to November of the promotion season. Read the report.
Having found that we did that we were lucky not to be deducted points because, like I say, you'll struggle to find an example of a club being found guilty of illegally gaining a sporting advantage and not being docked points. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Couple of points.
Dates across which we are supposed to have gained an illegal sporting advantage exactly?
Date upon which the football league changed the rules making signings like Faurlin's unacceptable?
That 15 months is then looking a whole lot like 2 days IMO. |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:48 - Jul 14 with 1236 views | Northernr |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 07:19 - Jul 14 by hoopstilidie |
Couple of points.
Dates across which we are supposed to have gained an illegal sporting advantage exactly?
Date upon which the football league changed the rules making signings like Faurlin's unacceptable?
That 15 months is then looking a whole lot like 2 days IMO. |
Well that's your opinion, but it's not the opinion of the committee that heard the case and found we gained a sporting advantage for 15 months hence Jamie is correct to say we were lucky not to be docked points because usually when a team is found to have gained a sporting advantage illegally points come off. | | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:50 - Jul 14 with 1229 views | Lewes_r |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:48 - Jul 14 by Northernr |
Well that's your opinion, but it's not the opinion of the committee that heard the case and found we gained a sporting advantage for 15 months hence Jamie is correct to say we were lucky not to be docked points because usually when a team is found to have gained a sporting advantage illegally points come off. |
You two will never get the time back that you wasted on this argument |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:54 - Jul 14 with 1225 views | HollowayRanger |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 15:40 - Jul 13 by Antti_Heinola |
Do you know what I'd like, but will never happen? It would be for us to be as vociferous as ever v Chelsea at the next game. But to fall completely silent whenever Terry touches the ball.
Despite all the words of support from his team-mates (which did not include Mikel) it seems amazing that no other players support him anywhere else. Fitz Hall, Ramage, Rio, Jason Roberts and many others on Twitter can't believe he got off. In the game people know what he is, but outside he's invulnerable. |
my perfect DREAM/REVENGE would be that come the 30th we gave up all our tickets and that they were all given to people of colour
so that when terry came out all he would see facing 3rds of ground would be black faces all watching his every move and giving him pure hell |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 11:12 - Jul 14 with 1212 views | hoopstilidie |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:48 - Jul 14 by Northernr |
Well that's your opinion, but it's not the opinion of the committee that heard the case and found we gained a sporting advantage for 15 months hence Jamie is correct to say we were lucky not to be docked points because usually when a team is found to have gained a sporting advantage illegally points come off. |
Never been shy of docking points. Fact is they didn't, ergo it was not an offence punishable by docking of points. Facts is facts.
How anybody can argue differently is beyond me.
"Faurlin was subsequently registered as a QPR player on 14th July 2009 — ten days after the third party rule came into force. The FA prosecutor Adam Lewis claimed this constituted a breach of the third party rules. The commission disagreed, accepting that the deal had been agreed before the rule was in place, regardless of when Faurlin was actually registered."
"David Pleat was asked to gave expert evidence on whether QPR gained a “sporting advantage” by having Faurlin in their squad. Pleat concluded that very few individuals can carry a team on their own and that it was impossible to quantify the effect any single player has on his team. The only advantage QPR were deemed to have gained was in not needing to pay for someone else to play in Faurlin’s position. Effectively, their only advantage was in saving a fee for a replacement.
On that basis, the £800,000 fine was reached by creating a notional value for Faurlin of £200,000 when he signed, then subtracting that from an estimated value of around £1m after his successful first season."
Pretty clear cut to me on what they considered as "gaining a sporting advantage". [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 11:48 - Jul 14 with 1178 views | QPR_John |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:48 - Jul 14 by Northernr |
Well that's your opinion, but it's not the opinion of the committee that heard the case and found we gained a sporting advantage for 15 months hence Jamie is correct to say we were lucky not to be docked points because usually when a team is found to have gained a sporting advantage illegally points come off. |
Its an interesting achademic exercise but if we were to have been docked points where would they have come from |  | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 12:01 - Jul 14 with 1165 views | CHUBBS |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 10:54 - Jul 14 by HollowayRanger |
my perfect DREAM/REVENGE would be that come the 30th we gave up all our tickets and that they were all given to people of colour
so that when terry came out all he would see facing 3rds of ground would be black faces all watching his every move and giving him pure hell |
Some of you lot on here will self combust if we sign Ki Sung Yeung 
On 25 January 2011, during the 2011 AFC Asian Cup semi-final match between Japan and South Korea, Ki scored the opening goal through a penalty kick.[27] Ki created controversy with his goal celebration by pulling a monkey face and scratching his cheek in front of a pitch-side camera in an allegedly racist slur at Japanese people.[28] Ki initially defended his goal celebration through a Twitter post claiming that he was annoyed at having seen a Rising Sun Flag in the stadium.[29] Ki then claimed that the celebration was a reference to alleged racist abuse he had received during Scottish Premier League games from opposition fans, but the chief executive of Show Racism the Red Card expressed scepticism about this.[29] Asian Cup tournament director Tokuaki Suzuki said that no action will be taken on part of the AFC and that FIFA has not contacted the AFC regarding the matter.[28]
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 14:18 - Jul 14 with 1112 views | Tearsofrage |
Final insult to the whole repugnant issue: Dick Mennis (he of uncontestably objective Norwich City views) pronouncing on 5 live (I think - some crap channel as I was coming home last night) that "The whole trial and verdict made him"...proud to be British". Whatever form of perverted logic applies in East Anglia, an extremely dodgy journalist has contributed the most completely crass verdict on the "Jay-Tee" hearing. His prejudice against us will no doubt continue but to allow that to display an utter disregard for the facts or even the implications behind the judgement is despicable ...nearly as repulsive as the behaviour of Terry. This is a man(JT not Dick M) who escapes conviction for a serious assault on a bouncer, disregards the rights of the handicapped, openly insults another black player, betrays his wife, his children, his so-called best friend and that best friend's girlfriend and then, because he's lost the captaincy, proceeds to do all he can to undermine the England side in the last World Cup. The man is utterly odious by whatever standards you wish to apply. To celebrate his "acquittal" as a confirmation of British justice and decency is rather like celebrating 9/11 because some (very few - I've worked with them!) yanks are a bit noxious. They make a great beer in Chester called "Spitting Feathers" - may have to go back and drink lots! Up the RRRRRRRRRRs! |  | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 14:29 - Jul 14 with 1558 views | hoopstilidie |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 14:18 - Jul 14 by Tearsofrage |
Final insult to the whole repugnant issue: Dick Mennis (he of uncontestably objective Norwich City views) pronouncing on 5 live (I think - some crap channel as I was coming home last night) that "The whole trial and verdict made him"...proud to be British". Whatever form of perverted logic applies in East Anglia, an extremely dodgy journalist has contributed the most completely crass verdict on the "Jay-Tee" hearing. His prejudice against us will no doubt continue but to allow that to display an utter disregard for the facts or even the implications behind the judgement is despicable ...nearly as repulsive as the behaviour of Terry. This is a man(JT not Dick M) who escapes conviction for a serious assault on a bouncer, disregards the rights of the handicapped, openly insults another black player, betrays his wife, his children, his so-called best friend and that best friend's girlfriend and then, because he's lost the captaincy, proceeds to do all he can to undermine the England side in the last World Cup. The man is utterly odious by whatever standards you wish to apply. To celebrate his "acquittal" as a confirmation of British justice and decency is rather like celebrating 9/11 because some (very few - I've worked with them!) yanks are a bit noxious. They make a great beer in Chester called "Spitting Feathers" - may have to go back and drink lots! Up the RRRRRRRRRRs! |
Funny you should mention 9/11, JT had a rather unique way of showing compassion immediately after that event. | |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 14:52 - Jul 14 with 1527 views | TacticalR |
I would say that Mick Dennis's ideas about British justice are quite commonplace.
The peculiarity of British nationalism in its current form is that Britain is seen as a tolerant society whereas other countries are racist. The result is an 'anti-racist' nationalism.
The same sentiments were expressed in more diplomatic terms last night on Radio London by Pat Nevin who put a radical gloss on things by saying the trial showed that 'we take racism seriously'.
If you listen to 5Live you will hear this expressed in more forthright terms by ex-Arsenal player Perry Groves, who had a field day when Suarez was charged, because it showed 'all foreigners are racists'.
That is why we are entitled to bomb other countries with a clear conscience because, after all, they are full of nationalists and racists. |  |
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 15:05 - Jul 14 with 1511 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Depressing, but not overly surprising.
There was always a doubt that the courts could prove the very likely beyond all reasonable doubt. Terry's a lucky boy, but the courts should be held to a higher level of proof, even if it means the odd guilty man walks, better that than the alternative where the odd innocent man is found guilty. We won't always like every verdict.
Or, as Billy Bragg might say:-
"This isn't a court of justice, son, this is a court of law".
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 19:08 - Jul 14 with 1409 views | Juzzie |
Daily Fail at it again! He was a witness not the person who brought the action to Court. If the FA say it's 'cos of taunting during the game then they may as well ban every League player.
There will be tumbleweed rolling across pitches all over England come kick off time of the new season.
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| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 19:59 - Jul 14 with 1380 views | johnhoop |
The really sickening thing now is that poor old JT is now widely being presented as the victim of this whole clusterf..k. | | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 20:06 - Jul 14 with 1375 views | stansleftfoot |
Hardly, Ashley has been called a Iced Chocolate Confection, i suspect its ironic and perhaps a sarcastic reference to this summers poor weather....me lud! | | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 20:21 - Jul 14 with 1360 views | Tearsofrage |
Desperately sad to acknowledge that in a supposedly tolerant and humane society anyone who has access to influential and highly-paid legal services can, effectively piss on the law. This isn't just about QPR and Chelsea. It is entirely about decency and respect. The concept that whosoever you are you can escape wrongdoing is very difficult to swallow. | | | |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 20:29 - Jul 14 with 1355 views | Tearsofrage |
| John Terry goes on trial this Monday on 19:59 - Jul 14 by johnhoop |
The really sickening thing now is that poor old JT is now widely being presented as the victim of this whole clusterf..k. |
John - you've got it dead right. As far as Chelsea fans are concerned he is the innocent victim of some Machiavelian conspiracyand this won't change. If the force of the law doesn't protect playersof whatever skin colour then what is the point of challenging racism as a whole? | | | |
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