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Sexual Harassment Or Not? 16:19 - Feb 12 with 2163 viewsunion_jack

What are people’s views on this Rubiales v Hermoso case.

It was a kiss on the lips. Now forget consent but does this constitute in isolation, sexual harassment?

To me, it’s no more than an over celebration and pride that Spain’s women justifiably won the competition. No more than that.

Which makes me believe there is more history to this than we are aware of. But if so, why hasn’t it come out?

I’m a little bewildered by it all. If he’d grabbed her breasts or squeezed her backside at a party, that’s entirely different. But a kiss?

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:00 - Feb 20 with 624 viewsonehunglow

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 13:10 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

If I went to the police every time a woman grabbed my arse or touched/hugged/kisses/groped me in the workplace I’d have been given my own parking space outside the station by now and a loyalty rewards card.


Did you ever go down the Rank
It was rife then
I was traumatised for years
Thankfully

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:20 - Feb 20 with 602 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:00 - Feb 20 by onehunglow

Did you ever go down the Rank
It was rife then
I was traumatised for years
Thankfully


I’m a lot younger than you think, my parents met in the rank though. It was Time and envy when I was touched up by randy drunkards in there.

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:25 - Feb 20 with 594 viewsonehunglow

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:20 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I’m a lot younger than you think, my parents met in the rank though. It was Time and envy when I was touched up by randy drunkards in there.


I was never a drunk as I always had a nice car and was rather a petroleum head
Bit of an arrogant tw@t really
Hard to believe I know

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:48 - Feb 20 with 574 viewsAnotherJohn

Must admit I didn't think that the kiss aspect would lead to a conviction, but thought LR might get hit hard for the coercion charge. In the event he was found not guilty of that 2nd potentially more serious offense. It looks as though the court did not put much weight on the lip reading evidence that he asked permission, and instead went with Jenni's story that she did not hear what he said with so much crowd noise and did not consent. It would be interesting to get more detail on the reasoning. Expensive kiss at 10,000 euros, losing a job, and I'd guess hefty legal expenses
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 16:20 - Feb 20 with 528 viewsunion_jack

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:20 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I’m a lot younger than you think, my parents met in the rank though. It was Time and envy when I was touched up by randy drunkards in there.


I apologise. Blame it on the drink😁

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 17:23 - Feb 20 with 489 viewstheloneranger

He's appealed the judgement.

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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 19:12 - Feb 20 with 446 viewsSullutaCreturned

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 14:00 - Feb 20 by onehunglow

Did you ever go down the Rank
It was rife then
I was traumatised for years
Thankfully


It wasn't the rank by the time I went there, Jumpin jacks, Time and Envy, Oceania but yes, there was a fair amount of female on male action that would be considered some kind of abuse today.

Bloody modern young people, I know there were too many times when things went too far but even so, the young uns haven't half taken the fun out of life. Cripes, you can hardly even look at a pretty face anymore without someone getting triggered.

This fella was bloody stupid and deserved a punishment but I do think it's overkill.
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 00:32 - Feb 21 with 375 viewsRobbie

I look at it from the perspective of would I expect my daughter to accept a kiss on the lips from her boss , against her will and unnecessary , my actions later would not be limited to a paltry fine and a slap on the wrists .

She was female getting approached by a man in a dodgy way on a World wide TV audience .
Bloke must have been thick as a plank , advice you are being filmed live and it will come back and bit you on your rear end if any foul play involved .

Glad the bloke has been found out and prosecuted .
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 10:29 - Feb 21 with 302 viewscontroversial_jack

This will undoubtedly deter many men from getting involved with female sports
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 12:38 - Feb 21 with 270 viewsWhiterockin

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 10:29 - Feb 21 by controversial_jack

This will undoubtedly deter many men from getting involved with female sports


Only the ones who shouldn't be and that's not a bad thing.
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 13:49 - Feb 21 with 215 viewsReslovenSwan1

One would think this issue has ran it's course but lawyers will want to squeeze more juice out of this lemon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxq97w21gno

One wonders if she has had enough of this issue ( I have) but is being encouraged by outside agencies.
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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 19:09 - Feb 21 with 127 viewsGwyn737

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 12:38 - Feb 21 by Whiterockin

Only the ones who shouldn't be and that's not a bad thing.


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Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 21:42 - Feb 21 with 90 viewsSullutaCreturned

Sexual Harassment Or Not? on 00:32 - Feb 21 by Robbie

I look at it from the perspective of would I expect my daughter to accept a kiss on the lips from her boss , against her will and unnecessary , my actions later would not be limited to a paltry fine and a slap on the wrists .

She was female getting approached by a man in a dodgy way on a World wide TV audience .
Bloke must have been thick as a plank , advice you are being filmed live and it will come back and bit you on your rear end if any foul play involved .

Glad the bloke has been found out and prosecuted .


This is the problem with being of a certain age. 30-40 years ago he'd have gotten a slap, been put on his ass, sat down and the police would have said he deserved it and there's nothing to see here.

He deserved to lose his job, to be publicly shamed and left to rot in his own shame.

The problem with today is, being an utter dickhead in public doesn't sem to stop people from returning to top jobs. I'm thinking Mandelsohn here mostly as the example. People who do these stupid things should never get these top jobs again but if mandy cam come back in such an important role then Rubiales?
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