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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. 11:43 - Nov 10 with 1335 viewsGRIM

Individually we have a worse bunch of players now than when we got relegated 2 years ago.
The board have stated that they still support the Manager, how can they say that considering where we are in the lge & the insipid performances we are delivering.
If they genuinely believe in this Manager then we are in real trouble, if they stick with him we will end up in Division one.
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 12:08 - Nov 10 with 1272 viewsIfonly

The players are better than 2 years ago. Many are the same people but Ramsdale, Fernandes, THB, Suga and Downes are improvements. Personally I'd say Archer too, it's just that he's being used in the wrong way. Only Lavia and JWP are missed and neither of them were consistently performing at the top level that season.

We have the players to compete in this league, or at the very least to go down fighting. What we don't have is a proper manager. Selles was awful and clueless. Martin is the same and tries to play in much the same way as Selles. He belongs in League 1 with Selles. It was the managers that were mostly to blame for our pathetic performance in 22/23 and the same is true today. Even with a decent manager we'd be bottom half, but we'd be competing and have a decent chance of survival.
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 12:26 - Nov 10 with 1217 viewssaint22

It’s totally bewildering and completely wrong to persist with a manager who cannot get results
Not just a few games but 11
It just goes to show that those at the top have no clue
How one man can be so stubborn when he sees his stubbornness beaten week in week out and made to look amateur at best is, frankly ridiculous
Why keep someone in place who is guaranteed to fail
It’s mental
And my ST will go back if there is no change before Xmas
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:00 - Nov 10 with 1130 viewsGRIM

This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 12:08 - Nov 10 by Ifonly

The players are better than 2 years ago. Many are the same people but Ramsdale, Fernandes, THB, Suga and Downes are improvements. Personally I'd say Archer too, it's just that he's being used in the wrong way. Only Lavia and JWP are missed and neither of them were consistently performing at the top level that season.

We have the players to compete in this league, or at the very least to go down fighting. What we don't have is a proper manager. Selles was awful and clueless. Martin is the same and tries to play in much the same way as Selles. He belongs in League 1 with Selles. It was the managers that were mostly to blame for our pathetic performance in 22/23 and the same is true today. Even with a decent manager we'd be bottom half, but we'd be competing and have a decent chance of survival.


I disagree, we are weaker now.
The only area we are better is in goal.
Perraud was better than Manning.
Taylor Harwood Bellis is OK but no better than what we had 22/23 season.
Prowsy & Lavia were far better than any combination we have now.
Alcaraz was about the same as Fernández.
Then we had Stuey Armstrong & Che.
Adams both better than what we have now.
Most of the others are the same players that took us down.
I agree that this Manager is not getting the best out of some of the new players but most of them wouldn't get into any other Premier side.
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:31 - Nov 10 with 1080 viewsIfonly

This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:00 - Nov 10 by GRIM

I disagree, we are weaker now.
The only area we are better is in goal.
Perraud was better than Manning.
Taylor Harwood Bellis is OK but no better than what we had 22/23 season.
Prowsy & Lavia were far better than any combination we have now.
Alcaraz was about the same as Fernández.
Then we had Stuey Armstrong & Che.
Adams both better than what we have now.
Most of the others are the same players that took us down.
I agree that this Manager is not getting the best out of some of the new players but most of them wouldn't get into any other Premier side.


Who did we have in 22/23 that is better than THB?

Perraud was no better than Taylor and worse than KWP when he plays on the left with Suga on the right.

Alcaraz and Fernandes are different players. Fernandes has a much better all round game. Alcaraz had promise for the future but never really delivered. Fernandes delivers consistently.

Dibling will deliver more this season than Stu did.

If Che Adams was the answer then God only knows what the questions was. He was a constant let down. Archer is a better player but needs to be used properly.
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:53 - Nov 10 with 1040 views1885_SFC

No wonder we never win games. Football is a pretty simple game. You wouldn't think so reading this absolute bollix and utter tosh...

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24713209.russell-martin-adresses-southamptons-

Old School is Cool

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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 15:19 - Nov 10 with 998 viewsIfonly

This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:53 - Nov 10 by 1885_SFC

No wonder we never win games. Football is a pretty simple game. You wouldn't think so reading this absolute bollix and utter tosh...

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24713209.russell-martin-adresses-southamptons-


You're right, he talks bollux, but actually in this and other interviews he FINALLY said some things that are true:

"We can't just turn up and fight. The club is not built on that, the team is not built on that, we haven't recruited to do that, we haven't got the physicality to do that.

"When you see the moments of transition today, it's not really our forte. The team builds up to get to the final third."

In translation: we don't have physical players and we don't look to play counter attack, we only get to the other end slowly.

Finally he's hit on 2 of our big problems, but the problem is these are entirely due to his own choices. He chose not to prioritise a physical centre forward that we could play up to and he chooses that we prioritise possession and move the ball slowly.

You can almost hear his brain starting to work. Maybe soon he'll have the thought "...how about if we move the ball forward quicker?!?"

In another interview he said "we spend so much time in the final third, we should get more from that". Maybe one day he'll realise that the reason we don't score is BECAUSE we spend so much time in the final third. If we played on the counter attack we'd score a lot more.
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 13:34 - Nov 11 with 666 viewsandoverpedro

sorry but this team is worse figures speak for them selves , just as well play under 18's and get smashed every week less embarressing and will give us an excuse
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 13:49 - Nov 11 with 657 viewsandoverpedro

This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:53 - Nov 10 by 1885_SFC

No wonder we never win games. Football is a pretty simple game. You wouldn't think so reading this absolute bollix and utter tosh...

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24713209.russell-martin-adresses-southamptons-


the man is a total and utter fool if he actually said this and needs to go now this was onbvious last year let alone this year with a weaker less talented side , Che aAams , Stuart Armstong, carlos Alcaraz, all better than what we brought in we have had it when we go down. this team is weak and spineless .
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This team is worse than than the one that got relegated 2 years ago. on 14:36 - Nov 11 with 614 viewsdirk_doone

It will certainly be a hell of a lot weaker next season than the team that finished 4th last season.

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