| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt 14:25 - Jul 29 with 4165 views | onehunglow |
22-5%
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 13:50 - Jul 30 with 818 views | majorraglan |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 12:46 - Jul 30 by Gwyn737 |
Very true.
I find it quite sad that when awarded pay rises that are generally recommended by independent pay review bodies that take into account a number of factors (especially recruitment and retention), public servants become public enemies.
In some cases, the same people who criticise the get cross because empty post are filled by agencies and/or immigrants.
It’s almost like it’s not thought through… |
It’s normal practice for Government to issue the pay review bodies with “terms of reference” at the start of the review process so the Review group have a steer on what’s affordable to the public purse before they start their work.
Seemingly, it appears the previous government failed to issue terms of reference this year and allowed the pay review bodies to crack on with no guidance. I wonder was this a deliberate act knowing they’d lose power and put more pressure on the public purse? If, after reviewing all the evidence and the submissions from all the stakeholders a pay review body makes a recommendation then surely a government has to honour it. I can only recall 1 occasion when the government refused to honour the outcome of such a process and that was when Theresa May imposed a lower than recommended pay rise on the police. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:18 - Jul 30 with 758 views | SullutaCreturned |
When Reeves talked about the 22 billion overspend it was nice of her to leave out that half of that overspend is because of the pay rises they are offering.
It's the kind of tactic we'd expet from the tories, well when I say tactic its little more than a lie.
And people think Labour will save them, hardly any time at all in power and already we are looking at cuts, rising prices, pension grabs and lies.
For the first time in a long time I did not voteand now I'm thinking only the mugs voted, shame we didn't have a "none of the above" box on the ballot. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 with 754 views | raynor94 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:18 - Jul 30 by SullutaCreturned |
When Reeves talked about the 22 billion overspend it was nice of her to leave out that half of that overspend is because of the pay rises they are offering.
It's the kind of tactic we'd expet from the tories, well when I say tactic its little more than a lie.
And people think Labour will save them, hardly any time at all in power and already we are looking at cuts, rising prices, pension grabs and lies.
For the first time in a long time I did not voteand now I'm thinking only the mugs voted, shame we didn't have a "none of the above" box on the ballot. |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |  |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:33 - Jul 30 with 748 views | Gwyn737 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:18 - Jul 30 by SullutaCreturned |
When Reeves talked about the 22 billion overspend it was nice of her to leave out that half of that overspend is because of the pay rises they are offering.
It's the kind of tactic we'd expet from the tories, well when I say tactic its little more than a lie.
And people think Labour will save them, hardly any time at all in power and already we are looking at cuts, rising prices, pension grabs and lies.
For the first time in a long time I did not voteand now I'm thinking only the mugs voted, shame we didn't have a "none of the above" box on the ballot. |
A lot cheaper to settle than the inevitable strikes, Cat.
Labour will never have as much leeway as they do now as a new majority government.
If there’s a time to do this stuff it’s now. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:45 - Jul 30 with 731 views | Scotia |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |
It's a hard pill to swallow. But I'm hoping for some honest and fair decisions.
We need cuts in the right places and tax rises. I'm happy to pay if it is spent in the right place, I trust Labour to do that more than the last 14 years of government, who were probably the worst in British history.
The biggest swindle was the two recent cuts in NI not affordable and nothing more than a an attempt to buy votes. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:08 - Jul 30 with 708 views | trampie |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |
I find her despicable:-
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:22 - Jul 30 with 691 views | raynor94 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:08 - Jul 30 by trampie |
I find her despicable:-
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I agree with the 2 child cap, if you can afford to look after more than 2 fine, but you shouldn't automatically expect the government to subsidise it | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:38 - Jul 30 with 674 views | pencoedjack |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |
Ditto |  | | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:44 - Jul 30 with 673 views | max936 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |
She should be chasing the billions the Tories wasted on massive contracts given to their mates for the not fit for purpose PPE that they supplied during Covid, corruption at its finest, well done BORIS the bundler and then once he was gone we had the lamentable Truss and her useless chancellor Kwarteng who wasted more Billions. |  |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:29 - Jul 30 with 634 views | pencoedjack |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:44 - Jul 30 by max936 |
She should be chasing the billions the Tories wasted on massive contracts given to their mates for the not fit for purpose PPE that they supplied during Covid, corruption at its finest, well done BORIS the bundler and then once he was gone we had the lamentable Truss and her useless chancellor Kwarteng who wasted more Billions. |
Not much point on dwelling on the past Max.
Labour knew what they were inheriting ( despite the bullshit) was hoping for a fresh new politics.
These pay rises are paying the unions who backed them off. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:32 - Jul 30 with 634 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 18:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
She has gone way down in my estimation, I was looking forward to her taking office, and then came that announcement, and there's still a budget to come! |
Huge difference between being in opposition and in government. Starmer fought a negative campaign "they are crap' only now do we start to see what is on offer from the new government especially after a very vague manifesto. |  |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:40 - Jul 30 with 617 views | max936 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:32 - Jul 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Huge difference between being in opposition and in government. Starmer fought a negative campaign "they are crap' only now do we start to see what is on offer from the new government especially after a very vague manifesto. |
Now we are seeing the cards he was keeping close to his chest, conniving, snidey, sneaky T
Tories and the Labour party we have today are cut from the same cloth in essence, Red tie, blue tie makes only suttle little differences. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:43 - Jul 30 with 611 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:40 - Jul 30 by max936 |
Now we are seeing the cards he was keeping close to his chest, conniving, snidey, sneaky T
Tories and the Labour party we have today are cut from the same cloth in essence, Red tie, blue tie makes only suttle little differences. |
Bearing in mind 80 percent of people of voting age did not vote for him and only 37 percent of those that did vote voted for him he needs to be careful as all the pent up frustration with politicians could end up on his plate. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:48 - Jul 30 with 609 views | max936 |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:43 - Jul 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Bearing in mind 80 percent of people of voting age did not vote for him and only 37 percent of those that did vote voted for him he needs to be careful as all the pent up frustration with politicians could end up on his plate. |
British politics needs a massive overall, its gone beyond the sell by date.
I like many many others didn't vote, I didn't and still don't trust any of the clowns. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:01 - Jul 30 with 594 views | Whiterockin |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 13:13 - Jul 30 by controversial_jack |
Does this mean GPs or just hospital docs? |
Junior Doctors are not GPs |  | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:08 - Jul 30 with 578 views | Flashberryjack |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:32 - Jul 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Huge difference between being in opposition and in government. Starmer fought a negative campaign "they are crap' only now do we start to see what is on offer from the new government especially after a very vague manifesto. |
Yes, when you are in opposition you can criticise everything without giving an alternative solution, but when you are actually in a power, that's when you have to deliver the alternative. |  |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:11 - Jul 30 with 574 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:08 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack |
Yes, when you are in opposition you can criticise everything without giving an alternative solution, but when you are actually in a power, that's when you have to deliver the alternative. |
Yes, well thought out and tested strategies and plans with good mechanisms for delivery, totally different job to running a negative campaign in opposition. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:25 - Jul 30 with 536 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 19:08 - Jul 30 by trampie |
I find her despicable:-
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Better than Corbyn who sold out to terrorism including IRA, Hamas and hezbolla. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:14 - Jul 30 with 508 views | majorraglan |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 20:29 - Jul 30 by pencoedjack |
Not much point on dwelling on the past Max.
Labour knew what they were inheriting ( despite the bullshit) was hoping for a fresh new politics.
These pay rises are paying the unions who backed them off. |
The pay rises have come from recommendations of the statutory pay review bodies. Typically, the government outline the parameters that the are acceptable (what the country can allegedly afford) before the negotiations start so the review groups have some baselines to work with. Earlier this year when the review groups were convened, the government didn't issue any pre guidance so the groups have got on with the their jobs and made their recommendations which Labour have now inherited.
What is interesting is why didn’t the government issue the pre guidance to the review bodies? Did they take their eye off the ball and forget or was it deliberate so that Labour picked up a huge blank cheque or was there another reason? I’d be surprised if it was a trap for Labour because nobody thought we’d have the July GE and most of the money was on a winter election. | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:28 - Jul 30 with 488 views | raynor94 |
To offer inflation busting pay rises to public sector workers, on the day you cut winter fuel allowance to pensioners , shows a distinct lack of judgement from Rachel Reeves
Something I think will haunt her for a long time to come | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:33 - Jul 30 with 485 views | trampie |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:28 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
To offer inflation busting pay rises to public sector workers, on the day you cut winter fuel allowance to pensioners , shows a distinct lack of judgement from Rachel Reeves
Something I think will haunt her for a long time to come |
She is a right Tory that one. | |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:38 - Jul 30 with 474 views | ItchySphincter |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 23:28 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
To offer inflation busting pay rises to public sector workers, on the day you cut winter fuel allowance to pensioners , shows a distinct lack of judgement from Rachel Reeves
Something I think will haunt her for a long time to come |
They’ve fallen way behind mind. They have had below inflation pay rises for years, this is catch up.
…. And junior doctors are not ‘junior’ in the sense that they are not qualified. They are not specialists. |  |
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 00:17 - Jul 31 with 447 views | controversial_jack |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 21:01 - Jul 30 by Whiterockin |
Junior Doctors are not GPs |
I didn't realise it was just for junior docs | | | |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 00:38 - Jul 31 with 426 views | ItchySphincter |
| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 00:17 - Jul 31 by controversial_jack |
I didn't realise it was just for junior docs |
I think junior doctors can be GP’s. They are not consultants and can continue to train but junior doctor does not mean unqualified. It is a misleading term. [Post edited 1 Aug 14:18]
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| Doctors offered a pay rise by Govt on 01:01 - Jul 31 with 421 views | Robbie |
Really glad I did not vote for any of the mainstream Parties , could see carnage coming .
All Politicians past and present should hang their heads in shame at this debacle in public financies and spending our money , will they care from the luxury of their second homes I very much doubt it .
WAG members claiming for housing costs in Cardiff Bay whilst living in a close radius .
Get on a train daily like the great unwashed , forgot train service and road links are a joke .
I voted for anybody who can restore law and order in the UK , events in Southport earlier following on from that horrific attack in the holiday club shows we losing control .
Just want to know where my hard earned and HMRC tax deduction is going .
Blame game and more accusations will now follow in Westminster in the coming debates .
Politicians and Leaders dont you love them , sure thing is they will all have a nice little earner when it all goes pear shaped for them , tax exempt obviously . | | | |
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